Racism

[Irish#1]

The dynamics of this are interesting. Honestly I'd have pegged Rham as potentially a guy to help cover something like this up. While he's still not my fav, I have a little more respect for him today.

Guessing the x-CoS inserted herself for the money/power on her own without any Obama consideration. I think the Os are too smart to get anywhere near this.

From the USA Today

"Magats was tapped to oversee the case after State’s Attorney Kim Foxx recused herself from the investigation. Foxx stepped back from the case, because she passed on a request from Smollett’s family to Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson to hand over the investigation to the FBI.

In addition to her exchanges with a Smollett family member, Foxx disclosed she traded messages about the matter with Tina Tchen, a high-profile Chicago attorney who served as first lady Michelle Obama's chief of staff."

I thought the same thing until I just read this. Certainly makes you wonder. Foxx recuses herself because it could turn into political suicide if she doesn't?

 

[BGIF]

Rahm being silent or not standing with the police would be devastating to the community. He didn't have a choice.

Mayors in Baltimore, NYC, and other places have not stood with their PDs. I recall NYPD turning their backs to their mayor.


Commissioner Reagan has had a constant battle over mayoral support with at least three mayors during his tenure. It's at least an every other week episode, alternating with turf battles with the D.A. du jour.

 

[Rogue219]

If you want to start with an example of a lack of accountability in Chicago, outgoing Mayor Wreck It Rahm would be a great place to start. The irony of him standing there and talking about a "whitewash of justice." Wow.

I know of the show but don't watch it, and when I first heard who this was, my reference point was "he was in Mighty Ducks." I have not followed the story closely, but from what I've seen, it is bizarre and is now going to throw gasoline on the already raging dumpster fire that is the city of Chicago. Their April election can't get here fast enough.

I heard CNN devoted three hours of coverage to this. Hence why I watch no cable news. A variety of other more important issues going on.

 

[Irish YJ]

From the USA Today

I thought the same thing until I just read this. Certainly makes you wonder. Foxx recuses herself because it could turn into political suicide if she doesn't?

It's MO's former CoS. She's a political fixer in Chitown. Doubt the O's would influence this. Tchen by the accounts I read was working on behalf of Jussie's family. Jussie's mom as I understand it is an "activist". Tchen is also an "activist" type, and is involved heavily with orgs like the Southern Poverty Law Center, and is bit time involved with fund raising for the dems.

I would not be shocked if the Os influenced, this, but I think it would be pretty stupid, and I don't see them being that stupid lol. I can see Tchen doing this in her "fixer" space. I'm sure she's in tight with the Foxx. Foxx probably thought she would gain political capital and favors. This might just end Foxx's career.

 

[Irish#1]

The article I read pointed out she was MO's former chief of staff. That's why I question this. Seems plausible that maybe they at least made a phone call or Foxx spoke to Tchen who called MO, then a phone call was made? Not a lot of involvement, but maybe MO called the DA or a message was relayed to the DA that simply said "Please make this go away"?

Makes a nice conspiracy theory. lol

 

[Irish YJ]

The article I read pointed out she was MO's former chief of staff. That's why I question this. Seems plausible that maybe they at least made a phone call or Foxx spoke to Tchen who called MO, then a phone call was made? Not a lot of involvement, but maybe MO called the DA or a message was relayed to the DA that simply said "Please make this go away"?

Makes a nice conspiracy theory. lol

DTS tweeted earlier per news that the DOJ and FBI would be looking at the case, and why it was released. Somebody leaked an email from Foxx showing she tried to cover her tracks. I'd love to see some folks get exposed.

 

[Irish#1]

DTS tweeted earlier per news that the DOJ and FBI would be looking at the case, and why it was released. Somebody leaked an email from Foxx showing she tried to cover her tracks. I'd love to see some folks get exposed.

Yeah, I don't think this is over. Chicago politics!

 

[Rogue219]

The funny part is, Kim Foxx primaried incumbent Anita Alvarez, and she was no prize either.

It's wrong on so many levels. Another connected, wealthy celebrity gets away with it. It truly is gross how money and fame get a pass in this country.

 

[IrishLax]

Damn white people and their... *shuffles deck* dog waking.

 

[connor_in]

Damn white people and their... *shuffles deck* dog waking.

I really need the source of this story on white people waking up dogs and it being racist as compared to letting them sleep.

 

[wizards8507]

I really need the source of this story on white people waking up dogs and it being racist as compared to letting them sleep.

 

[Irish YJ]

the level of stupid keeps ticking up and up and up

 

[loomis41973]

the level of stupid keeps ticking up and up and up

It's all TRUMPS fault.

 

[Irish#1]

Do some people just sit around looking at life, people, business, etc., just trying to figure out something they can try and make racists? They're promoting and propagating racism just by posting something like that.

 

[Irish#1]

And the beat goes on. Flyers doing this because she supposedly sang a song 40 years ago that had racists lyrics. I'm thinking we need to take down every statue honoring the military, because you know there were plenty of guys that fought in WWII, Korea and VietNam that had racist views.

‘I’m Appalled’: Kate Smith’s Family Responds To Flyers Removing Statue From Sports Complex

https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2019/04/21/suzy-andron-kate-smith-philadelphia-flyers-statue/

 

[connor_in]

Yeah, but this is a story about dog WALKING not dog WAKING. Still waiting on the inherent racism of waking up dogs from a sound sleep. (Plus I agree that story you list is horribly off the scale stupid)

 

[Legacy]

‘Ready to explode’: How a black teen’s drifting raft triggered a deadly week of riots 100 years ago in Chicago (Chicago Tribune)

It’s Been 100 Years: Is Chicago Finally Ready To Reckon With the City’s 1919 Race Riots? (Block Club Chicago)

 

[Legacy]

El Paso massacre upends white nationalists’ normalization strategy (Reuters)

Two years ago, America’s white nationalist movement stunned the country. Neo-Nazi demonstrations in Charlottesville, Virginia, had turned deadly when a far-right protester drove a car through a crowd, killing one and injuring dozens. Some movement leaders regrouped. Instead of stoking outrage, they set out to build support with another tack: Looking normal.

The larger goal was what many white nationalists call “Phase 2” — gaining mainstream acceptance for far-right ideas widely rejected as repugnant and getting white nationalists into positions of influence. The normalization effort included softened rhetoric and social gatherings that, for many groups, would increasingly replace confrontational rallies.

“The strategy is internally focused now — having families get together,” said alt-right blogger Brad Griffin, a self-avowed white nationalist from Montgomery, Alabama. He fondly recalled a river-tubing trip he organized in 2018 for friends who had attended a local white nationalist conference. The goal of such low-key gatherings, he said, is to spread far-right ideology away from the public spectacle of a public protest. “It’s a lot more fun to do that than to go out and tangle with Antifa” — members of America’s far-left “anti-fascist” movement — “and get hit with piss balloons in the street.” (cont'd)

‘We Are Being Eaten From Within.’ Why America Is Losing the Battle Against White Nationalist Terrorism (Time)

When you think of a terrorist, what do you see? For more than a generation, the image lurking in Americans’ nightmares has resembled the perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks: an Islamic jihadist. Not a 21-year-old white supremacist from a prosperous Dallas suburb.

But long before that young man drove to El Paso, Texas, on Aug. 3 and allegedly murdered at least 22 people at a Walmart crammed with back-to-school shoppers, it was clear that white nationalists have become the face of terrorism in America. Since 9/11, white supremacists and other far-right extremists have been responsible for almost three times as many attacks on U.S. soil as Islamic terrorists, the government reported. From 2009 through 2018, the far right has been responsible for 73% of domestic extremist-related fatalities, according to a 2019 study by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL). And the toll is growing. More people–49–were murdered by far-right extremists in the U.S. last year than in any other year since the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995. FBI Director Christopher Wray told Congress in July that a majority of the bureau’s domestic-terrorism investigations since October were linked to white supremacy.

Yet the nation’s leaders have failed to meet this menace. In more than a dozen interviews with TIME, current and former federal law-enforcement and national-security officials described a sense of bewilderment and frustration as they watched warnings go ignored and the white-supremacist terror threat grow. Over the past decade, multiple attempts to refocus federal resources on the issue have been thwarted. Entire offices meant to coordinate an interagency response to right-wing extremism were funded, staffed and then defunded in the face of legal, constitutional and political concerns. (cont'd)

White supremacists and other terrorist groups hide behind the 1st. 2nd and 4th Amendments and run into groups opposed to aspects of legislation that may be considered infringements on those with some legislation like the Patriot Act receiving opposition. Communication over the Internet, confiscating their supplies of weapons, seizures of properties while prosecuting not only acts but verbalized and credible violent threats and all those who make them require threading the needle facilitating prosecutions while protecting our Constitutional rights. Looking at just the acts and not credible threats which have been prevented may be the best way of gauging their threats to our multi-cultural, multi-religious society.

 

[Legacy]

There are three good articles on the difficulty of controlling white supremacists' and terrorists' communication over the Internet.

Here's one:
Legal Shield for Websites Rattles Under Onslaught of Hate Speech

Section 230 says that "No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider." This federal law preempts any state laws to the contrary: "[n]o cause of action may be brought and no liability may be imposed under any State or local law that is inconsistent with this section." The courts have repeatedly rejected attempts to limit the reach of Section 230 to "traditional" Internet service providers, instead treating many diverse entities as "interactive computer service providers."

Aug. 6, 2019

When the most consequential law governing speech on the internet was created in 1996, Google.com didn’t exist and Mark Zuckerberg was 11 years old.

The federal law, Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, has helped Facebook, YouTube, Twitter and countless other internet companies flourish.

But Section 230’s liability protection also extends to fringe sites known for hosting hate speech, anti-Semitic content and racist tropes like 8chan, the internet message board where the suspect in the El Paso shooting massacre posted his manifesto.

The First Amendment protects free speech, including hate speech, but Section 230 shields websites from liability for content created by their users. It permits internet companies to moderate their sites without being on the hook legally for everything they host. It does not provide blanket protection from legal responsibility for some criminal acts, like posting child pornography or violations of intellectual property....

On Wednesday, the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit affirmed a lower court’s ruling that Facebook was not liable for violent attacks coordinated and encouraged by Facebook accounts linked to Hamas, the militant Islamist group. In the majority opinion, the court said Section 230 “should be construed broadly in favor of immunity.”

Second Circuit Rules That Section 230 Bars Civil Terrorism Claims Against Facebook (EFF)

NYT also has an article on how the web forum 8chan, where the El Paso mass murderer posted his "manifest", became a haven for white supremacists. 8chan relied on Cloudshare, a web performance and security company, to provide its service to keep it from shutting down. Cloudshare, who had previously taken a neutral stance on the content in any of the businesses using its services, changed their minds after El Paso.

"The rationale is simple: they have proven themselves to be lawless and that lawlessness has caused multiple tragic deaths,” wrote their CEO Matthew Prince. “Even if 8chan may not have violated the letter of the law in refusing to moderate their hate-filled community, they have created an environment that revels in violating its spirit."

On Capitol Hill, Facebook and other social media giants have regularly been called to testify with the latest cry that their monitoring of content on their site is unfairly targeting conservative groups. Trump has said that he will monitor that "censorship". Also, a bill has been introduced that will make an exception to 230 making companies liable for child pornography content posted on their site.

Considering both terrorist group communications and the changes in our culture and values, 230 and court decisions on free speech make it difficult to shut down racist and terrorist, for instance, content that weakens our ability to take action.

 

[drayer54]

When everything you don't like is a racist, we all want to be the most woke, and lies are good for the pandering:


“Hands up, don’t shoot” became a national rallying cry — until the Obama Department of Justice comprehensively and thoroughly debunked it in a lengthy report published on March 4, 2015. Writing in December of the same year, the Washington Post’s Glenn Kessler called the slogan one of “the biggest Pinocchios of the year.”

But Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren ignored the Obama DOJ. They blew straight through the facts of the case and published these accusations:
https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1159893277954514944?s=20

https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1159902078103445507?s=20

 

[IrishLax]

When everything you don't like is a racist, we all want to be the most woke, and lies are good for the pandering:


“Hands up, don’t shoot” became a national rallying cry — until the Obama Department of Justice comprehensively and thoroughly debunked it in a lengthy report published on March 4, 2015. Writing in December of the same year, the Washington Post’s Glenn Kessler called the slogan one of “the biggest Pinocchios of the year.”

But Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren ignored the Obama DOJ. They blew straight through the facts of the case and published these accusations:
https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1159893277954514944?s=20

https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1159902078103445507?s=20

Yeah, this is textbook why I will not vote for Warren under any circumstance. She's always been a race hustler from the moment she pretended to be Native American. She routinely makes statements like this in order to stoke resentment and create a racial divide in this country. This is yet another example... the Obama DOJ, led by a black man in Eric Holder, pretty clearly stated that the officer was justified and his account was corroborated by witnesses and forensics.

People like Warren are exceedingly dangerous because they are never held accountable by the media for their lies and fear mongering.

 

[Irishize]

When everything you don't like is a racist, we all want to be the most woke, and lies are good for the pandering:


“Hands up, don’t shoot” became a national rallying cry — until the Obama Department of Justice comprehensively and thoroughly debunked it in a lengthy report published on March 4, 2015. Writing in December of the same year, the Washington Post’s Glenn Kessler called the slogan one of “the biggest Pinocchios of the year.”

But Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren ignored the Obama DOJ. They blew straight through the facts of the case and published these accusations:
https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1159893277954514944?s=20

https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1159902078103445507?s=20

This is another blatant inconsistency by the Left/MSM. For instance, when a conspiracy theory crops up that paints the Left in a bad light, it is rightly debunked as a crackpot conspiracy theory (Obama’s birth certificate or the Clinton Body Count). But when it emanates from the Left, the press trumpets it like it’s fact and allows the Left to push it as such. Examples are the Ferguson shooting being the fault of the officer which was debunked by the Obama DOJ or the quote “mistakenly” assigned to Trump in regards to Charlottesville. The Left doesn’t hesitate to debunk conspiracy theories they don’t like, but the ones they want to be true are always reinforced by their partner in crime...the MSM.

 

[ACamp1900]

... rightly debunked as a crackpot conspiracy theory...like... the Clinton Body Count). ....

 

[NorthDakota]

Yeah, this is textbook why I will not vote for Warren under any circumstance. She's always been a race hustler from the moment she pretended to be Native American. She routinely makes statements like this in order to stoke resentment and create a racial divide in this country. This is yet another example... the Obama DOJ, led by a black man in Eric Holder, pretty clearly stated that the officer was justified and his account was corroborated by witnesses and forensics.

People like Warren are exceedingly dangerous because they are never held accountable by the media for their lies and fear mongering.

All we ever needed to know about Lizzy was learned when she released the results of her DNA test. Probably had the largest delta between expected and actual outcome I've seen.

 

[RDU Irish]

LOL - well played.

 

[Irish#1]

When everything you don't like is a racist, we all want to be the most woke, and lies are good for the pandering:


“Hands up, don’t shoot” became a national rallying cry — until the Obama Department of Justice comprehensively and thoroughly debunked it in a lengthy report published on March 4, 2015. Writing in December of the same year, the Washington Post’s Glenn Kessler called the slogan one of “the biggest Pinocchios of the year.”

But Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren ignored the Obama DOJ. They blew straight through the facts of the case and published these accusations:
https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1159893277954514944?s=20

https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1159902078103445507?s=20

Check out the replies. Both get hammered pretty good.

 

[ACamp1900]

Check out the replies. Both get hammered pretty good.

"Kamala dropped a Brown without a single shot"

 

[Irishize]

Conspiracy theories are fun but they’re usually false. Trust me, I’d love for the Clinton one to be true but it’s now looked at as being debunked. Now, that doesn’t mean he’s innocent of his alleged misdeeds which go back to his Attorney General of Arkansas days. Some of the deaths on that list aren’t directly connected to Slick. The “Boys on the Track” is the most interesting as it was definitely a conspiracy but Clinton wasn’t the main antagonist as his biggest misdeed was vouching for the errors that the coroner, Fahmy Malak, made at the crime scene. He owed Malak a favor after Malak saved Clinton’s mom ass from negligence in a death of a patient where she was accused of malpractice. I think she was a CRNA or something.

 

[ACamp1900]

Conspiracy theories are fun but they’re usually false. Trust me, I’d love for the Clinton one to be true but it’s now looked at as being debunked. Now, that doesn’t mean he’s innocent of his alleged misdeeds which go back to his Attorney General of Arkansas days. Some of the deaths on that list aren’t directly connected to Slick. The “Boys on the Track” is the most interesting as it was definitely a conspiracy but Clinton wasn’t the main antagonist as his biggest misdeed was vouching for the errors that the coroner, Fahmy Malak, made at the crime scene. He owed Malak a favor after Malak saved Clinton’s mom ass from negligence in a death of a patient where she was accused of malpractice. I think she was a CRNA or something.

Whatever floats your boat... I think it's different then other 'conspiracies' you touch on in that it's at least plausible. I'll just leave it at:

 

[Irishize]

Whatever floats your boat... I think it's different then other 'conspiracies' you touch on in that it's at least plausible. I'll just leave it at:

Well as someone who lived through the Clinton era in Arkansas and despises both Bill & Hillary and knows people who lost loved ones during that time, I’d love to hear more about what you know outside of memes & gifs. I agree a lot of is “at least plausible” but how much of it is that we want it to be true so Slick can finally be punished for his crimes?