One Stop Rumors Thread?

[Cackalacky2.0]

Didn't LSU want Freeman really bad as their DC? Chances they pull him out of ND for a HC job?

 

[RDU Irish]

Didn't LSU want Freeman really bad as their DC? Chances they pull him out of ND for a HC job?

Freeman has to feel like he dodged a bullet there.

 

[Free Manera]

Didn't LSU want Freeman really bad as their DC? Chances they pull him out of ND for a HC job?

I had that thought too. But I don't think they can afford to take a flyer on a coordinator. They need a proven program builder to get that thing back on the tracks. Program is a mess.

I have no faith in them to handle it properly though, flight tracking from Jacksonville to Baton Rouge .....

 

[ThePiombino]

Didn't LSU want Freeman really bad as their DC? Chances they pull him out of ND for a HC job?

Too risky. People are wondering whether or not he's the defensive genius we all thought he was over the last couple of years at Cincinnati, let alone a leading first time head coach candidate...

 

[Dale]

I wouldn’t expect too many coordinators in the shortlists. I’ve seen names like Dabo, Jimbo, BK etc thrown out. They are going to shoot very high

 

[SoIll]

Mel Tucker. Book it. New President is a minority. Sounds like he wants to go that route as well. Mel is a gangster

 

[Rogue219]

This has as much to do with Ed’s indiscretions and NCAA infractions as anything. The struggles this year make it easy for LSU to get out in front of this by getting rid of him.

Right. He's not winning games. If he were winning, I'm wondering if there is even a question that he'd be going.

Losses piling up on top of a clown show off the field? See ya.

 

[Rogue219]

Mel Tucker and Dave Aranda seem like they'd be at the top of the list. I know he's not the big hire everyone down there would want, but Billy Napier is winning at ULL where no one has won prior to him in a long time. He's 42 years old and has been on both Saban and Dabo's staff. He knows Louisiana recruiting. He's turned down multiple SEC jobs already so he's waiting for something.

If LSU doesn't get him, somebody else will and it'll be a hell of a hire.

When the George Floyd marches peaked last year, Orgeron's players reached out to him and he didn't even bother to pretend to care, which is shocking considering his reputation as a players coach. This is going to be a factor for LSU's search and I'm guessing they will want someone with as little baggage as possible. Too many clouds hanging over that program right now. They don't need more drama.

 

[dublinirish]

Mel Tucker and Dave Aranda seem like they'd be at the top of the list. I know he's not the big hire everyone down there would want, but Billy Napier is winning at ULL where no one has won prior to him in a long time. He's 42 years old and has been on both Saban and Dabo's staff. He knows Louisiana recruiting. He's turned down multiple SEC jobs already so he's waiting for something.

If LSU doesn't get him, somebody else will and it'll be a hell of a hire.

When the George Floyd marches peaked last year, Orgeron's players reached out to him and he didn't even bother to pretend to care, which is shocking considering his reputation as a players coach. This is going to be a factor for LSU's search and I'm guessing they will want someone with as little baggage as possible. Too many clouds hanging over that program right now. They don't need more drama.

the guy's a Trumper, what ya expect.

 

[Dale]

With Mel Tucker, he’s definitely way ahead of schedule with the turnaround regardless, but I do wonder if 8-4 will have the same glean as 6-0. Back half of the schedule is time to play some teams with a pulse and they’ve escaped a couple, still a wins a win.

 

[BeauBenken]

Mel Tucker and Dave Aranda seem like they'd be at the top of the list. I know he's not the big hire everyone down there would want, but Billy Napier is winning at ULL where no one has won prior to him in a long time. He's 42 years old and has been on both Saban and Dabo's staff. He knows Louisiana recruiting. He's turned down multiple SEC jobs already so he's waiting for something.

If LSU doesn't get him, somebody else will and it'll be a hell of a hire.

When the George Floyd marches peaked last year, Orgeron's players reached out to him and he didn't even bother to pretend to care, which is shocking considering his reputation as a players coach. This is going to be a factor for LSU's search and I'm guessing they will want someone with as little baggage as possible. Too many clouds hanging over that program right now. They don't need more drama.

Definitely think Napier should be on the list.

 

[Huntr]

Woodward will swing for the fences, he doesn't screw around. It will be a HC from the upper echelon of P5 jobs.

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

the guy's a Trumper, what ya expect.

Well now the interesting thing is that seems to have actually turned the fans on the players now. The LSU boards are having a lot of the "players are soft and brainwashed" and "they should be grateful for the opportunity to play here" type talk now.

I also don't know if I would want to go there if I were a minority coach. They seem to be suggesting any hire that is a minority will have only been hired because they are a minority. Even if that wouldn't bother you, it is not a good position to be in to have lost a good part of the fanbase before even starting at a place where a coach got fired 21 months after winning a national championship.

I really wonder if LSU is going to turn into FSU. IDK is Orgeron is leaving the program in a great state and based on the general financial state of the university, they might not be able to pay for all the things needed to stay competitive in the SEC, especially with how much they are paying coaches.

 

[BobbyMac]

Who knows? If you told somebody in 1981 that Miami would be the most powerful program in the country for about a dozen years, they would have laughed at you.

Probably not the best example. That '81 team was two plays away from playing for the NC. They swept the ranked Florida schools and beat some good teams that year including #1 Penn State.

Schnellenberger's first team in '79 was probably the right call.

 

[ulukinatme]

Well now the interesting thing is that seems to have actually turned the fans on the players now. The LSU boards are having a lot of the "players are soft and brainwashed" and "they should be grateful for the opportunity to play here" type talk now.

I also don't know if I would want to go there if I were a minority coach. They seem to be suggesting any hire that is a minority will have only been hired because they are a minority. Even if that wouldn't bother you, it is not a good position to be in to have lost a good part of the fanbase before even starting at a place where a coach got fired 21 months after winning a national championship.

I really wonder if LSU is going to turn into FSU. IDK is Orgeron is leaving the program in a great state and based on the general financial state of the university, they might not be able to pay for all the things needed to stay competitive in the SEC, especially with how much they are paying coaches.

The money issue is a good point. Of course boosters can always fix things, but wasn't the state of Louisiana on the verge of bankruptcy a few years ago? There was a lot of talk how it would affect the university funding and if football would have to make some cuts to expenses. Coaching salaries/buyouts could certainly factor into some of that I'm sure, even if the boosters and ticket sales will cover much of it.

 

[Rogue219]

Definitely think Napier should be on the list.

I don't think they'll take him seriously, which is fine. He's turned down a couple of SEC jobs already. It's a matter of where he lands. Whoever gets him will have done well for themselves. Probably won't be LSU, but that's cool.

 

[notredomer23]

I will be pretty surprised if it's not Jimbo Fisher. He's saying all the same things now that he said weeks before leaving FSU.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Probably not the best example. That '81 team was two plays away from playing for the NC. They swept the ranked Florida schools and beat some good teams that year including #1 Penn State.

Schnellenberger's first team in '79 was probably the right call.

Yeah, I probably should have said 1979 or earlier.

 

[IrishRazor82]

I will be pretty surprised if it's not Jimbo Fisher. He's saying all the same things now that he said weeks before leaving FSU.

A&M is a better job in the future than LSU. Texas has more resources and isn't afraid to use them. Much better culture there too. Zero chance Jimbo leaves A&M for LSU.

 

[IrishLion]

I will be pretty surprised if it's not Jimbo Fisher. He's saying all the same things now that he said weeks before leaving FSU.

Everyone just ignores the "I plan on..." qualifier that Jimbo likes to use lol

 

[Dale]

A&M is a better job in the future than LSU. Texas has more resources and isn't afraid to use them. Much better culture there too. Zero chance Jimbo leaves A&M for LSU.

Depends. A&M will tell you their recent success is not because they are away from Texas but simply because they are in the SEC. But in 3 years what is the pitch for A&M to get a kid over Texas, OU, and LSU? Come to A&M we are in SEC just went away.

 

[IrishRazor82]

Depends. A&M will tell you their recent success is not because they are away from Texas but simply because they are in the SEC. But in 3 years what is the pitch for A&M to get a kid over Texas, OU, and LSU? Come to A&M we are in SEC just went away.

More resources, better coach, better culture, better stadium. You'll not meet a more proud alum than an Aggie.

Whispers (better politics).

 

[Sea Turtle]

More resources, better coach, better culture, better stadium. You'll not meet a more proud alum than an Aggie.

Whispers (better politics).

Also, players can live off campus and take all of their classes online like Johnny Manziel.

 

[IrishLax]

Schools like Texas A&M will continually have a branding problem until they actually win something. Yes, they can buy recruits, anyone can do that. Clemson, Auburn, UNC, etc. But Clemson became Clemson by first winning ACC championships which they then parlayed into winning national championships.

Until Texas A&M actually wins the SEC West much less the SEC Championship it's a Tier 3 job that happens to pay like a Tier 1 job.

 

[Dale]

More resources, better coach, better culture, better stadium. You'll not meet a more proud alum than an Aggie.

Whispers (better politics).

A&M over Texas, OU, and LSU for every one of those?

 

[Irish#1]

More resources, better coach, better culture, better stadium. You'll not meet a more proud alum than an Aggie.

Whispers (better politics).

That's the problem. Their too proud to see the truth. A&M has a great fanbase, but the FB program is not on par with LSU. Better football culture? I'll take LSU everyday. A&M has had one double digit win season since 2000. LSU has 11 with three championships. A&M is a perpetual 7-6, 8-5, 9-4 team.

 

[Rogue219]

Schools like Texas A&M will continually have a branding problem until they actually win something. Yes, they can buy recruits, anyone can do that. Clemson, Auburn, UNC, etc. But Clemson became Clemson by first winning ACC championships which they then parlayed into winning national championships.

Until Texas A&M actually wins the SEC West much less the SEC Championship it's a Tier 3 job that happens to pay like a Tier 1 job.

They're not even a has been (SC, Miami, Nebraska). They're a never have been at this point.

TAMU claims three national titles and the most recent of those was in 1939. Three leagues including 1997, 1998 and 2010.

LSU and TAMU is somewhat of a rivalry, no? I can't imagine TAMU not doing all they possibly can to block Fisher going to LSU of all places.

Isn't his buyout absolutely insane, too?

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

They're not even a has been (SC, Miami, Nebraska). They're a never have been at this point.

TAMU claims three national titles and the most recent of those was in 1939. Three leagues including 1997, 1998 and 2010.

LSU and TAMU is somewhat of a rivalry, no? I can't imagine TAMU not doing all they possibly can to block Fisher going to LSU of all places.

Isn't his buyout absolutely insane, too?

There is no buyout at all but LSU would have to (theoretically) improve on his nearly $100 million guaranteed.

 

[IrishRazor82]

I doubt Jimbo even takes a call, guaranteed he doesn't interview. He's in a better spot.

 

[Irishize]

Schools like Texas A&M will continually have a branding problem until they actually win something. Yes, they can buy recruits, anyone can do that. Clemson, Auburn, UNC, etc. But Clemson became Clemson by first winning ACC championships which they then parlayed into winning national championships.

Until Texas A&M actually wins the SEC West much less the SEC Championship it's a Tier 3 job that happens to pay like a Tier 1 job.

Correct. TAMU couldn’t even win the B12 when they were there.