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[koonja]

I know he's high on PSU I just can't see a player wanting to go to PSU right now when you can go virtually anywhere you want.

 

[Grahambo]

I know he's high on PSU I just can't see a player wanting to go to PSU right now when you can go virtually anywhere you want.

All of these guys disagree with you: Penn State 2013 Football Commits

These guys too: Penn State 2014 Football Commits

 

[STLDomer]

All of these guys disagree with you: Penn State 2013 Football Commits

These guys too: Penn State 2014 Football Commits

There's not one guy on there with the offer list of Holley that chose PSU after all hell broke loose and there's not a doubt in my mind that Hack, Breneman & Sickels would have chosen other schools instead of PSU if they hadn't already been committed to Penn State and wanted to stick with their commitment. Those three chose to stick together and I commend them for that.


Holley would by far be their biggest get since the Sandusky scandal

 

[koonja]

There's not one guy on there with the offer list of Holley that chose PSU after all hell broke loose and there's not a doubt in my mind that Hack, Breneman & Sickels would have chosen other schools instead of PSU if they hadn't already been committed to Penn State and wanted to stick with their commitment. Those three chose to stick together and I commend them for that.


Holley would by far be their biggest get since the Sandusky scandal

This.

 

[Grahambo]

I know he's high on PSU I just can't see a player wanting to go to PSU right now when you can go virtually anywhere you want.

There's not one guy on there with the offer list of Holley that chose PSU after all hell broke loose and there's not a doubt in my mind that Hack, Breneman & Sickels would have chosen other schools instead of PSU if they hadn't already been committed to Penn State and wanted to stick with their commitment. Those three chose to stick together and I commend them for that.


Holley would by far be their biggest get since the Sandusky scandal

Didn't realize we were going to debate semantics and "no doubt" situations. I feel unprepared. I thought I presented facts when kuehnja said what he said but I guess I was in the wrong.

 

[koonja]

Didn't realize we were going to debate semantics and "no doubt" situations. I feel unprepared. I thought I presented facts when kuehnja said what he said but I guess I was in the wrong.

I'm just saying, Holley has the talent and grades to go to almost any college. Most if not all PSU commits do not have that option.

 

[NDWorld247]

Thread on PSU 247 board that says Holley is close to a making a decision.

What's their source?

I could definitely see Holley picking PSU. Larry Johnson (DL coach) is one of the best in the business and Happy Valley is a special place. Plus, for the '14 recruits, the sanctions end after their sophomore year and they get a chance to play in Ireland, not that that is a huge draw, but it helps balance the fact they can't play in a bowl game. Also, I don't think PSU could have picked a better successor to Paterno than Bill O'Brien.

 

[Domina Nostra]

What's their source?

I could definitely see Holley picking PSU. Larry Johnson (DL coach) is one of the best in the business and Happy Valley is a special place. Plus, for the '14 recruits, the sanctions end after their sophomore year and they get a chance to play in Ireland, not that that is a huge draw, but it helps balance the fact they can't play in a bowl game. Also, I don't think PSU could have picked a better successor to Paterno than Bill O'Brien.

I am not a PSU hater, but I wonder if we can really call it a special place at this point--as if it continued on in a straight line with its tradition. My guess is that the culture is very different than it was pre-scandal.

 

[rtrn2glory]

i'll admit the first time i was there i had a feeling that it had that small town college feel that i got the first time i visited ND. i can see why the place was appealing to some recruits.

 

[Rhode Irish]

I'm with those who say they can't imagine why a kid with other options would want to go to Penn State right now. The only thing that used to attract anyone not from rural PA to go there was Paterno, and now everything associated with Paterno (including the sanctions) is a net negative. Would certainly be a head scratching decision. On the other hand, Eddie Jordan has managed to get a few well regarded high school basketball players to jump into the actively burning garbage pile that is Rutgers hoops, so I guess anything is possible.

 

[NDWorld247]

I am not a PSU hater, but I wonder if we can really call it a special place at this point--as if it continued on in a straight line with its tradition. My guess is that the culture is very different than it was pre-scandal.

This is probably a topic for another thread as I'm sure many people have opinions on it and I don't think Holley's thread should be clogged with PSU scandal talk. But, in response to your post, I don't think the scandal has defined Happy Valley and I don't think the culture has changed a whole lot. Take football out of the equation and Happy Valley (the town, the campus, etc) is still a remarkable community.

 

[TheChosen1]

Still don't know why penn state is playing in Ireland in 2014

 

[NDWorld247]

Still don't know why penn state is playing in Ireland in 2014

Because they aren't allowed to play in bowl games so Bill O'Brien wanted to create an opportunity for his players, you know, the guys who were punished for other's mistakes and chose to stick with the school/program, to experience a bowl game like atmosphere. I think the move is brilliant.

 

[TheChosen1]

Because they aren't allowed to play in bowl games so Bill O'Brien wanted to create an opportunity for his players, you know, the guys who were punished for other's mistakes and chose to stick with the school/program, to experience a bowl game like atmosphere. I think the move is brilliant.

But why Ireland?

 

[NDWorld247]

But why Ireland?

That's where they wanted to go. I know someone that presented another option to them (IMO a better deal) but they had made their mind up on Ireland. I wouldn't discount Dan Rooney's relationship with PSU in making the decision either.

 

[fightingirish26]

State college really hasn't changed much as a college town post scandal, just the football team doesn't have as high of expectations. They were good last year, not bcs bowl good, but good. I actually love state college, and the lone complaint I have in terms of atmosphere was that they stopped blaring Sweet Caroline haha

 

[TheTurningPoint]

PSU is still a special place. Did its reputation get tarnished? Sure. Before the scandal happened it was a tight knit community, and after its probably closer. They love their football in Happy Valley, and last seasons support was clear that their fanbase is behind the young men 100%. Its something you dont find at some of the big time schools and its appealing to kids. I mean they are still going to get to play the a great schedule infront of 110,000. Penn St is still going to get 4stars and I wouldnt be surprised to see a 5 star go there in the future. The kid can literally write a hell of a legacy for himself there. They have a great staff and will get their top talent to the league. I dont think you will see them compete for first place in the big ten but if they did finish first it wouldnt surprise me in the least. Kids that go there are going to be hard working, dedicated, and are going to give 200% everytime they play. Thats one of the pluses for the staff, is they know that each player that comes is there to work.

 

[koonja]

PSU is still a special place. Did its reputation get tarnished? Sure. Before the scandal happened it was a tight knit community, and after its probably closer. They love their football in Happy Valley, and last seasons support was clear that their fanbase is behind the young men 100%. Its something you dont find at some of the big time schools and its appealing to kids. I mean they are still going to get to play the a great schedule infront of 110,000. Penn St is still going to get 4stars and I wouldnt be surprised to see a 5 star go there in the future. The kid can literally write a hell of a legacy for himself there. They have a great staff and will get their top talent to the league. I dont think you will see them compete for first place in the big ten but if they did finish first it wouldnt surprise me in the least. Kids that go there are going to be hard working, dedicated, and are going to give 200% everytime they play. Thats one of the pluses for the staff, is they know that each player that comes is there to work.

Nobody's arguing PSU isn't a special place, but when you're not going to play for a bowl until you're a senior, that's a real buzz kill. There's are a lot of places with great tradition where you have no sanctions.

If I grew up indifferent (AKA, no childhood favorite), I'd have a really hard time not playing for a bowl for 3 years.

Edit: For Holley it'd only be two years, right?

 

[stlnd01]

PSU is still a special place. Did its reputation get tarnished? Sure. Before the scandal happened it was a tight knit community, and after its probably closer. They love their football in Happy Valley, and last seasons support was clear that their fanbase is behind the young men 100%. Its something you dont find at some of the big time schools and its appealing to kids. I mean they are still going to get to play the a great schedule infront of 110,000. Penn St is still going to get 4stars and I wouldnt be surprised to see a 5 star go there in the future. The kid can literally write a hell of a legacy for himself there. They have a great staff and will get their top talent to the league. I dont think you will see them compete for first place in the big ten but if they did finish first it wouldnt surprise me in the least. Kids that go there are going to be hard working, dedicated, and are going to give 200% everytime they play. Thats one of the pluses for the staff, is they know that each player that comes is there to work.

Yep. Penn State's still got a lot to offer, especially to a kid from the Northeast, where they're still the only truly big-time program. Also Larry Johnson is a great defensive line coach, and O'Brien is pretty impressive. They can start selling recruits on the chance on build something there. I've no idea what's in Holley's head, but he could do a lot worse.

 

[NDWorld247]

Nobody's arguing PSU isn't a special place, but when you're not going to play for a bowl until you're a senior, that's a real buzz kill. There's are a lot of places with great tradition where you have no sanctions.

Someone did question it. That's why we're talking about it. And '14 recruits will be eligible for the postseason after their sophomore year, not junior.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

There's not one guy on there with the offer list of Holley that chose PSU after all hell broke loose and there's not a doubt in my mind that Hack, Breneman & Sickels would have chosen other schools instead of PSU if they hadn't already been committed to Penn State and wanted to stick with their commitment. Those three chose to stick together and I commend them for that.


Holley would by far be their biggest get since the Sandusky scandal

Ugg....Sickels...wanted him to be Irish so bad.

 

[RyCo1983]

I've always lived withing half an hour of the place...I don't find anything special about it. Honestly. Maybe their fans have something to do with it.

 

[TheTurningPoint]

Nobody's arguing PSU isn't a special place, but when you're not going to play for a bowl until you're a senior, that's a real buzz kill. There's are a lot of places with great tradition where you have no sanctions.

If I grew up indifferent (AKA, no childhood favorite), I'd have a really hard time not playing for a bowl for 3 years.

Edit: For Holley it'd only be two years, right?

Buzz kill to you, to another they may see it in a different light. Thats the amazing thing about the human race, people have different view points on what they want in life.

 

[koonja]

Buzz kill to you, to another they may see it in a different light. Thats the amazing thing about the human race, people have different view points on what they want in life.

You're right, maybe he'll pick Houston.

 

[irishfan]

You're right, maybe he'll pick Houston.

Don't sleep on ISU. They should be due for a bowl bid by Holley's senior year.

 

[Domina Nostra]

There are scandals and there are scandals. The PSU scandal went straight to the heart of what PSU claimed to be about: winning with honor. Right now, ND is about success for the whole person. If we found ND was allowing false graduation rates to be reported and was paying its players, ND would lose a lot of its luster.

To me, it's not enough that Happy Valley is a neat town with great fans, they need to take a breather from self-celebration.

 

[TerryTate]

All this reaction because he set a timeline for a commitment? It was only reported on a PSU site because that's the reporter that got to him.

There's no mention of PSU leading.

PSU discussion will self-destruct in 20 min

 

[dublinirish]

But why Ireland?

both O'Brien and George O'Leary are Irish-Americans. Also the Irish tourism board actively lobbies the NCAA/colleges to come here and play. We have two World class stadia in a city centre location and great transport networks etc to get them around.

I know in the past Hawaii was used by teams for games like this is in a similar fashion but I guess its not unique enough anymore.

 

[ulukinatme]

The upside for a lot of these Penn State recruits in this class is the fact that many won't see the field they're upperclassmen, so they wouldn't be playing in a bowl anyway most likely. Holley could start sooner, but you know theres going to be a lot of hype for a Penn State team that plays in their first bowl game or two after a 4 year ban. Media will be all over that.

 

[dublinirish]

The upside for a lot of these Penn State recruits in this class is the fact that many won't see the field they're upperclassmen, so they wouldn't be playing in a bowl anyway most likely. Holley could start sooner, but you know theres going to be a lot of hype for a Penn State team that plays in their first bowl game or two after a 4 year ban. Media will be all over that.

yep and the first PSU team to win a bowl game post sanctions will be highly lauded. People named their firstborns after the 1st recruit to commit to PSU post sanctions! (brennan franklin, lb, from AZ, left the team after the season lolz)