Nov 5 | Clemson

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FEI is only projecting Clemson as 3.2 point favorites, but that doesn't take the weather into account. If the cold and rain force the Tigers into a rock fight, I like our odds.
I do like our odds if it ends up being cold and rainy. Seems like any team far south of the Mason Dixon line ends up struggling a bit in South Bend when we have those kinds of November games.
 

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Nice hyperbole
Ok, what reputable source will acknowledge ND Stadium is tough to play in? Even Goolsby admitted it was nothing compared to the other “name“ stadiums around the country that he played in like Neyland, Big House, Tallahassee, etc.

On second thought, you gave me an idea…they should rename it the HyperBowl
 

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11-04-06-StanfordStadium002.jpg

I'll say second most.
Fair but makes the fact that Stanford can come into the intimidating pit of chaos known as Notre Dame Stadium and embarrass the Irish in prime time that much more nauseating.
 

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Ok, what reputable source will acknowledge ND Stadium is tough to play in? Even Goolsby admitted it was nothing compared to the other “name“ stadiums around the country that he played in like Neyland, Big House, Tallahassee, etc.

On second thought, you gave me an idea…they should rename it the HyperBowl
It was tough for us when Georgia played at home, Lol. That was embarrassing.
 
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When ND sucks or it is a bad game ( opponent or way of play) the stadium can be a tomb. But for big games we do all right.
At the end of the day, you’re right. Win games & the crowd should react accordingly. Play patty cake w/ two trash teams…one from a University that couldn’t give a fiddlers fuck about football & you get what we have this year.

They still talk about the crowd rocking in the 2005 SC game.
 

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Originally I assumed the Public Ticket offering on ND's site for the Clemson game which required a Marshall ticket buy was simply trying to sell out the Marshall game. Maybe part of the thought process was to minimize the chances of Clemson fans buying up the tickets.
 

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DJ Ukelele (not gonna try to spell it) has been a massive disappointment for Clemson, but he will have another stellar game against us.

Think the game plan will be to take Shipley away and make Uke beat us.

He will.

This is will be a shootout if we can do anything offensively. Stops will be hard to come by for us, and the only way to win is make it hard for them too.

(None of this is grounded in reality, just a gut feeling)


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Heading into the SU game, he’d been having a nice bounce back season. Hopefully the SU game rattles his confidence. Still no one’s confidence looks more shook than Pyne’s. He claims he wants to be “coached hard” but I agree with Pete Sampson when he says “not buying it”

Don’t forget DJU can run & he’s not easy to bring down. He may be the biggest run threat QB ND has faced other than Maye. He’s been sacked 12 times. Their O has surpassed 200 yds rushing only twice: Furman & SU (291 yds).
 

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f that Ewok looking shipley. We dont want our first choices in recruiting. we want our third to make it even.
 

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Pendulum is due to swing back that way isn’t it?

Post-OSU: up
Post-Marshall: down
Post-Cal: meh
Post-UNC & BYU: up (w/ visions of being 6-2 heading into Clemson week)
Post-Stanford: way down
Post-UNLV: meh
Post-SU: up

Clemson is a slight favorite so they’ll probably blow ND off the field as every game seems to be bizarro world & go the opposite of conventional wisdom. Or maybe ND finally gives us what we’ve been waiting for since the last time these two met?
 

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Ok, what reputable source will acknowledge ND Stadium is tough to play in? Even Goolsby admitted it was nothing compared to the other “name“ stadiums around the country that he played in like Neyland, Big House, Tallahassee, etc.

On second thought, you gave me an idea…they should rename it the HyperBowl
Bias aside, because I've been to some sleepy home games, but ND stadium can get loud in certain situations, particularly night games. I can't point you to any sources, but as someone who's been to the Big House and Spartan Stadium as comparisons, night games, with the right game (i.e. not Stanford) it can get noisy.

Been to several USC night games, and UNC last year, and it was a good environment. Can't say it's SEC level or anything, but it beats MSU/scUM. The Big House is not that loud for 115k fans, in all honesty.
 

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Bias aside, because I've been to some sleepy home games, but ND stadium can get loud in certain situations, particularly night games. I can't point you to any sources, but as someone who's been to the Big House and Spartan Stadium as comparisons, night games, with the right game (i.e. not Stanford) it can get noisy.

Been to several USC night games, and UNC last year, and it was a good environment. Can't say it's SEC level or anything, but it beats MSU/scUM. The Big House is not that loud for 115k fans, in all honesty.
ND can get noisy. But it's not a scary place. I can have a convo with my dad pretty easy and neither of us got good hearing.
 

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Been to USC a few times, never found it especially loud (though perhaps that's b/c I've always been way up in the far corner where they stick ND fans). Michigan, like Notre Dame Stadium, is not designed in a way that really amplifies/encourages crowd noise - that big wide classic bowl lets a lot of noise out the top. I do remember going to a couple of games at Sparty that got pretty loud, b/c that place is basically an erector set with big vertical walls.
IOW, some of this has to do with the design of the stadium, not just the intensity of the crowd.
 

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forecast calling for mid to upper 40's with chance of rain and 40 mph wind gusts. we may be in 14 personnel all night.
 

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I'm torn on the weather being a huge favor to ND. Can someone explain?

Even in good weather, ND won't be successful running 75% of the time against Clemson's D. The cold, rain, and wind just makes it more impossible for Pyne.

Clemson may before forced to run more, but I was never that worried about our pass defense in this game to begin with.

Maybe the cold bothers some Clemson players and ND can take advantage? Maybe the weather keeps the scoring down on both sides, further increasing ND's odds? But in terms of matchups, I'm not sure how this changes things for me, personally. If anything, I think it will make it harder on ND to move the ball.
 

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The reason Wake almost beat Clemson was because Hartman was 20-29, 337 YDS, with 6 TD's. Ask yourself if Pyne can do that.
 

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I'm torn on the weather being a huge favor to ND. Can someone explain?

Even in good weather, ND won't be successful running 75% of the time against Clemson's D. The cold, rain, and wind just makes it more impossible for Pyne.

Clemson may before forced to run more, but I was never that worried about our pass defense in this game to begin with.

Maybe the cold bothers some Clemson players and ND can take advantage? Maybe the weather keeps the scoring down on both sides, further increasing ND's odds? But in terms of matchups, I'm not sure how this changes things for me, personally. If anything, I think it will make it harder on ND to move the ball.
Clemson has a better QB and a more balanced offense. Cold and rain make it difficult to move the ball through the air, which neutralizes their main advantage over us. If it comes down to line play, RBs, and special teams, we've got a much better chance of winning.
 

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Clemson has a better QB and a more balanced offense. Cold and rain make it difficult to move the ball through the air, which neutralizes their main advantage over us. If it comes down to line play, RBs, and special teams, we've got a much better chance of winning.
Mason is one of the reasons ND has a chance in this game. A punt block or kick return could be the deciding factor, especially in sloppy weather.
 

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The reason Wake almost beat Clemson was because Hartman was 20-29, 337 YDS, with 6 TD's. Ask yourself if Pyne can do that.
Pyne definitely cannot do those things, obviously. He has a sub 50% completion rate the last 3 games, against defenses way worse than Clemson. However, if he can go for like 50% and 150 yards with no turnovers, ND will be in it.
 

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I don't don't why there is so much uncertainty here re which Pyne will show up. There's only one Pyne and the only time he's played well is vs NC and BYU, two of the worst defenses in CFB. Why would you think he'll be anything but bad vs one of the best?
 
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