Nov 30 | Stanford

[peoriairish]

I wouldn't be surprised if Stanford was juicing, and that's why their number of major injuries is down. A wise man once said "If you hit the guy across from you harder than he hits you, you'll never get hurt."

Physiologically, typically there are more injuries with true HGH and steroid use. Steroid use destroys your ligaments and tendons and typically see more injuries down the line from steroid users. They are beneficial post-injury to return them to the sport faster, but if you are taking them, there is a a higher rate of injury, especially in high impact sports like football.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Physiologically, typically there are more injuries with true HGH and steroid use. Steroid use destroys your ligaments and tendons and typically see more injuries down the line from steroid users. They are beneficial post-injury to return them to the sport faster, but if you are taking them, there is a a higher rate of injury, especially in high impact sports like football.

This would certainly explain why Cushing and Matthews are getting hurt so much now.

 

[Irishman77]

We would beat Stanford by 30 today. They look pathetic!

 

[Meacon Irish]

I think they're just playing a really tough team.

A really tough team we beat, no less.

 

[gkIrish]

We would beat Stanford by 30 today. They look pathetic!

I know you're exaggerating but we only beat one team by 30 all year.

 

[GEORGIA DOMER]

We would beat Stanford by 30 today. They look pathetic!

Doubt it! I do feel like we would lose to this MSU team by 10-14 though.

 

[ulukinatme]

We would beat Stanford by 30 today. They look pathetic!

Stanford was playing a tough MSU team, and MSU is a different team than when we played them back in September. We're a different team too, I doubt we take them if we play them in November/December. Between the injuries we faced, and MSU improving at QB, we'd probably lose. Fortunately, we ended up playing them in September, so we can hang our hat on the fact we're the only team that beat the Rose Bowl champs

 

[stlnd01]

Stanford was playing a tough MSU team, and MSU is a different team than when we played them back in September. We're a different team too, I doubt we take them if we play them in November/December. Between the injuries we faced, and MSU improving at QB, we'd probably lose. Fortunately, we ended up playing them in September, so we can hang our hat on the fact we're the only team that beat the Rose Bowl champs

And on a better day we could have beat Stanford. Teams evolve, and will play up one week and down another. That's part of the beauty of college football.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Stanford was playing a tough MSU team, and MSU is a different team than when we played them back in September. We're a different team too, I doubt we take them if we play them in November/December. Between the injuries we faced, and MSU improving at QB, we'd probably lose. Fortunately, we ended up playing them in September, so we can hang our hat on the fact we're the only team that beat the Rose Bowl champs

I don't necessarily agree. Tommy was bad in that game, but fortunately, the defense stepped up when needed. Remember that ND was without Sheldon Day, and Tuitt and Nix played hurt. The secondary had one of it's best games. Not having a healthy unit almost cost them against MSU and an even less healthy unit was done in against Stanford.

 

[ulukinatme]

If you look at the way the team trended in the later half of the season, mostly due to injuries, I'm just pointing out that we don't beat Sanford by 30 like Irishman77 claimed. I mean, we just struggled with Rutgers, and we're going to beat Stanford by 30? I don't think so. MSU just won the Rose Bowl, and they're a much better team offensively than they were in September. We're lucky we got to play them when we did.

 

[dublinirish]

i thought Stanford were pretty poor tbh, they needed more creativity on offense and they just had very little in the locker, its a bowl game for christ's sakes!

 

[T Town Tommy]

Sorry but for all the Pac 12 praise this season, I seen some fairly average teams in Oregon, Stanford, Washington, and UCLA - even with an impressive win against Va Tech. Maybe the whole country was down, but if Stanford is the best of those four teams then the Pac 12 is a little bit overrated. MSU dominated them and outside a few costly tuurnovers, should have won by 14+ points. Still like Shaw as a coach but let's not anoint him the next great one just yet. I think Mark D. took him to school yesterday.

 

[Irish#1]

Shaw's play calling in the last series certainly was questionable.

 

[ulukinatme]

Shaw's play calling in the last series certainly was questionable.

He obviously learned nothing from the overtime game from last year. That, or he's completely overconfident in how good his offensive line is. Yeah, they're pretty good, but if the other guy is stout up the middle, and he's bringing the house...run PA at LEAST one down, or a bootleg, or a screen. Running it up the middle 4 times isn't going to win you the game if the other team knows there the ball is going.

 

[connor_in]

Sorry but for all the Pac 12 praise this season, I seen some fairly average teams in Oregon, Stanford, Washington, and UCLA - even with an impressive win against Va Tech. Maybe the whole country was down, but if Stanford is the best of those four teams then the Pac 12 is a little bit overrated. MSU dominated them and outside a few costly tuurnovers, should have won by 14+ points. Still like Shaw as a coach but let's not anoint him the next great one just yet. I think Mark D. took him to school yesterday.

Agree...and here's the thing. I think Dantonio has done it like Kelly has/wants to...building steady over the years...improving each class and teaching them to win. Tell you the truth, I am interested to see if he can put a run together ala Izzo and make it nationaly respected program on a consistent basis (at least for a little while).. I am sure a chunk of that will depend on Narduzzi's tenure there as well.