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The ESPN team recruiting rankings are not point based. Our scouts look at needs and talent to formulate their own opinion.
 
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Grahambo said:
For those that care:

Kipp Adams @KippLAdams 1h

The ESPN team recruiting rankings are not point based. Our scouts look at needs and talent to formulate their own opinion.
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Reason #17932549276429 why ESPN is a joke. It's the equivalent of Irish Envy folks making completely subjective recruit rankings based on what we feel like and lackadaisical highlight watching. Then we give more points to any kid that plays in our All-American game.. I mean... visits Notre Dame.... and then we just use the "eyeball" method and rank up the teams based on perceived talent and our ill-informed understanding of the "needs" of 120 different teams combined with what we perceive the recruit's college position to be.

So ridiculous.
 
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IrishLax said:
Reason #17932549276429 why ESPN is a joke. It's the equivalent of Irish Envy folks making completely subjective recruit rankings based on what we feel like and lackadaisical highlight watching. Then we give more points to any kid that plays in our All-American game.. I mean... visits Notre Dame.... and then we just use the "eyeball" method and rank up the teams based on perceived talent and our ill-informed understanding of the "needs" of 120 different teams combined with what we perceive the recruit's college position to be.

So ridiculous.
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In other words, we fake it and make it up (by utilizing less and less than significant resources into) all the while hoping it brings in more ads, more clicks, and more money.
 
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irishfanjho15 said:
In other words, we fake it and make it up (by utilizing less and less than significant resources into) all the while hoping it brings in more ads, more clicks, and more money.
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LOL sounds like a pretty solid business model if you ask me!
 
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Grahambo said:
For those that care:

Kipp Adams @KippLAdams 1h

The ESPN team recruiting rankings are not point based. Our scouts look at needs and talent to formulate their own opinion.
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Luginbill responded to that tweet with the following:

@KippLAdams @JNewbergESPN Correct. Multiple factors. It would take hours to list how flawed point systems are.
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Maddening. He has the gall to criticize services that use a real methodology to determine class rank, while his pathetic organization just makes stuff up according to gut feelings, eye ball tests, and whoever played in their all-star game.
 
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Okay, So I'm pretty sure we had 18 commits a few days ago and now we have 17. I don't follow recruiting too much and just wondered who decommited?
 
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Okay, So I'm pretty sure we had 18 commits a few days ago and now we have 17. I don't follow recruiting too much and just wondered who decommited?
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Ronald Darby. No italics needed.
 
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NDOM said:
Okay, So I'm pretty sure we had 18 commits a few days ago and now we have 17. I don't follow recruiting too much and just wondered who decommited?
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You're that pissed about an assistant coaching hire, yet you don't know this?!?
 
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NDinFL said:
This is painfully apparent
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LOL! That sucks. He was the best athlete in this class too from what I have heard. UGH!!!!! Hey btw, I'm gonna be in Fort Myers February 17-27th. BEER????
 
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Whiskeyjack said:
Luginbill responded to that tweet with the following:



Maddening. He has the gall to criticize services that use a real methodology to determine class rank, while his pathetic organization just makes stuff up according to gut feelings, eye ball tests, and whoever played in their all-star game.
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espn continually finds ways to make me laugh at them!

"Alabama has the best recruiting class in the country this year. Why? Because we say so."

What a complete sh!tsandwich that company is.
 
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As long as we are top20 I really don't care. Kelly develops 3 star guys!
 
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Chamellion said:
I'd love to have someone by the name of Junior Jabble play for us now.
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You're really worrying me.

It's Junior Jabbie with an "i" and no "l".

He DNP as frosh or soph DB.
ST player as a Jr.
Got about a dozen carries and caught about the same number of passes as a backup RB as a Sr.
After graduating from Mendoza, he played for the Delaware Blue Hens.

The high note of his ND playing career was being MVP of the '07 B&G Game as a RB with nearly 100 yds. It was a harbinger of things to come on offense and defense that year. He also was singled out a couple of times for his scout team play.
 
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Jason Sapp @BGI_JasonSapp

#NotreDame moves back up the @247Sports team recruiting rankings following commitment of QB Gunner Kiel ~ No. 6
 
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GoldenIsThyFame said:
I believe 247 only counts your top 17 commits so as soon as we grab another we will jump more. That is why we jumped to #3 briefly when we landed Shumate.
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Not quite, they actually just use a Gaussian formula that devalues the rating of your bottom end recruits as you add more and more.... it's smart and something that appeals to the engineer in me because you still get points for every recruit but teams with bloated classes get diminishing returns.
 
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IrishLax said:
Not quite, they actually just use a Gaussian formula that devalues the rating of your bottom end recruits as you add more and more.... it's smart and something that appeals to the engineer in me because you still get points for every recruit but teams with bloated classes get diminishing returns.
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Thanks, I don't why but the number 17 was just sticking out to me for some reason...
 
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The funny thing is that if you add Prestwood and Carlisle's points from last year to this class we're damn close to #1. So when you consider the overall haul... it's incredible.
 
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Interesting story -- Jr Jabbie stole the modular furniture from a kid's dorm room before they came to campus (in '06 only freshmen got it). The freshmen didn't know until like 8 months later and asked FT, who was none too happy about it, and JJ got kicked out of Stanford Hall... Good times.

Anyway, loving the class. I do miss Darby though, I've been telling my friends about him for months. Come back, Nitro!
 
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ClausentoTate said:
Interesting story -- Jr Jabbie stole the modular furniture from a kid's dorm room before they came to campus (in '06 only freshmen got it). The freshmen didn't know until like 8 months later and asked FT, who was none too happy about it, and JJ got kicked out of Stanford Hall... Good times.

Anyway, loving the class. I do miss Darby though, I've been telling my friends about him for months. Come back, Nitro!
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I don't think that book has closed just yet. Got a good feeling about him given the recent recruiting momentum shift. Don't forget- BK still has his in-home.
 
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