ND's Current Class Ranking

irishtrinity · Jul 26, 2012

How many scholarships do we have left for this class?

notredomer23 · Jul 26, 2012

irishtrinity said:
How many scholarships do we have left for this class?

15. we're going big

irishfanjho15 · Jul 26, 2012

irishtrinity said:
How many scholarships do we have left for this class?

Most are saying the magic number is 22 or 23. So with 17 commits, if they all stick, we should have 5 or 6 left.

clashmore_mike · Jul 28, 2012

Got a RB commitment just now, not sure who

CanadalovesND · Jul 28, 2012

clashmore_mike said:
Got a RB commitment just now, not sure who

Jamel James out of Katy, Texas. 6 feet +, 210 pounds, is described as a power back.

johnnykillz · Jul 28, 2012

CanadalovesND said:
Jamel James out of Katy, Texas. 6 feet +, 210 pounds, is described as a power back.

With some speed.

Physical with a gear.

CanadalovesND · Jul 28, 2012

johnnykillz said:
With some speed.

Physical with a gear.

Dare i say Jones Gray 2.0???... lol

johnnykillz · Jul 28, 2012

CanadalovesND said:
Dare i say Jones Gray 2.0???... lol

Exactly what I was thinking.

STLDomer · Jul 30, 2012

Didn't know where else to put this.

247 introduced a new feature called 247 composite.

The 247Composite Rating is a proprietary algorithm that compiles prospect "rankings" and "ratings" listed in the public domain by the major media recruiting services. It converts average industry ranks and ratings into a linear composite index capping at 1.0000, which indicates a concensus No. 1 prospect across all services.
The 247Composite Rating is the industry's most comprehensive and unbiased prospect ranking and is also used to generate 247Sports Team Recruiting Rankings....

Introducing 247Composite

Example of application:

Smith is #9 overall in composite, likely because of ESPNs lower rating of him.

2013 Top 247Composite

And a big change, Rashad Kinlaw is #160 overall on 247 but #330 overall on 247 Composite.

Rashad Kinlaw

Sherm Sticky · Jul 30, 2012

STLDomer said:
Didn't know where else to put this.

247 introduced a new feature called 247 composite.

Introducing 247Composite

Example of application:

Smith is #9 overall in composite because of ESPNs lower rating of him.

2013 Top 247Composite

And a big change, Rashad Kinlaw is #160 overall on 247 but #330 overall on 247 Composite.

Rashad Kinlaw

Thanks ESPN for skewing it.

IrishLax · Jul 30, 2012

Quite interesting stuff..... after the new composite rankings, the only player who is not a "composite" 4 :s:

is Corey Robinson and Michael Deeb. With that being said, they have an error for Deeb and are not including his rankings elsewhere (such as 4 :s:

#17 ILB on ESPN).

On the overall composite rankings, we're #6 without Jamel James and our 247 "score" basically didn't move at all. Instead, OSU got a major uptick in points dropping us back one spot. Really cool system, definitely needs a couple tweaks though for accuracy. They have an issue with Mattingly as well which is either an oversight or an intentional issue because some services list him as a TE/ATH and not OLB.

Also of note, relative to the 247 rankings, Elmer, Montelus, and McGovern all get sizeable bumps... especially Montelus. The only guy taking a big relative hit is Rashad Kinlaw. Everyone else just nudges a slight bit up or down. It's crazy that our new composite score is only 1 total point different (up) than our 247 score... that's crazy little variance.

Also, we have the composite #9, #13, #14, and #15 OTs per the rankings. 4 of the top 15 OL in the country is a pretty damn awesome haul.

Old Man Mike · Jul 30, 2012

"And when the Irish line goes smashing through, they'll sweep the foeman's ranks away; for Notre Dame man fight for Gold and Blue, and Notre Dame men will win this day!!!!"

....part of the really olde alternative fight song from my Dad's day in the 30s.

OCIrish · Jul 30, 2012

While I don't much care for the rankings by the services, I do think it's great to see these kids get recognized for their efforts. That being said, I couldn't be happier with this class, and the job the staff is doing on the recruiting trail! They have put together an amazing class that doesn't have the star power of Southern Cal, but has the right kids with the right mindset. Jamal James came out of nowhere, to go along with the OL haul and LB haul. Throw in Malik Zaire and a few talented WR's, and this has turned out to be an outstanding class.

PraetorianND · Jul 31, 2012

Do we have an explanation for why Jamel James is not being included in our class per 24/7?

STLDomer · Aug 9, 2012

247 as reintroduced their own team rankings, they had gotten ridden of them after 247Composite but now both are an option.

247: USC Bama UM UF ND Auburn OSU Clemson LSU UGA
247Composite: USC UM Bama UF OSU ND Texas UGA Auburn Clemson

NDhoosier · Aug 10, 2012

consensus top 5 recruiting class so far...

But has ESPN updated their rankings with our 18th and 19th commit. That would affect ND's composite score.

Sherm Sticky · Aug 10, 2012

NDhoosier said:
consensus top 5 recruiting class so far... But has ESPN updated their rankings with our 18th and 19th commit. That would affect ND's composite score.

Na ESPN hasn't updated their class rankings. They don't do it dynamically like their other sites, they do it periodically.

GoldenIsThyFame · Aug 20, 2012

#4 class on Rivals now behind USC, Michigan and LSU.

NDPhilly · Aug 20, 2012

Swag.

pumpdog20 · Aug 20, 2012

2 out of top 4 are northern schools and one from out west? Obviously Rivals has something against southern football.

bobbyok1 · Sep 27, 2012

Up to #6 on ESPN

College Football Class Rankings 2013 - ESPN

Also . . .

Scout- #3
Rivals- #4
247-#6

West Coast Domer · Sep 27, 2012

I think we have a pretty damn good class if Elmer according to ESPN is one of our lower ranked recruits.

IrishLax · Nov 8, 2012

Think it's time for a nice bump to this thread...

Rivals-#2
Scout-#2
ESPN-#4
247-#6

That's pretty darn awesome. And doubly awesome if you expect us to land AQM and Redfield... please lord baby Jesus let that happen.

Old Man Mike · Nov 8, 2012

Kelly can't recruit; all he got at Cincinnati were 3 and two stars.

Gotta keep a close watch on this pretender.

Anyone who needs italics, needs more than that....

TheChosen1 · Nov 8, 2012

Good bump> I love this class.

TheChosen1 · Nov 10, 2012

IrishLax said:
Think it's time for a nice bump to this thread...

Rivals-#2
Scout-#2
ESPN-#4
247-#6

That's pretty darn awesome. And doubly awesome if you expect us to land AQM and Redfield... please lord baby Jesus let that happen.

Rivals #3 LSU jumped ND

ACamp1900 · Nov 10, 2012

It has already been established that this staff can't recruit... Clearly when Les Miles jumps you someone just got exposed.... Again.

@firebriankelly

Irish YJ · Nov 12, 2012

i still don't understand 247's class ranking methodology. How can you have a higher per player point average, more recruits, more 5*s, more 4*s..... than Ohio St., and be behind them. Do they get an Urban Liar bonus. And UF, higher per player average, more recruits...

OrlaNDomer · Nov 12, 2012

^ If I remember correctly they only count the top 17 or 18 players in your class. So they could possibly have higher rated guys at the top.

ShakeDown · Nov 12, 2012

Irish YJ said:
i still don't understand 247's class ranking methodology. How can you have a higher per player point average, more recruits, more 5*s, more 4*s..... than Ohio St., and be behind them. Do they get an Urban Liar bonus. And UF, higher per player average, more recruits...

I think you might be looking at the composite homie.

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