NCAA Ruling on the ND Academic Scandal
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It's not a coincidence that the SEC commissioner is the dude who chaired the panel to hand out these sanctions. This was a hit job that we brought on ourselves.
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The #1 "mover" for getting a coach fired is fan backlash. No school would ever fire its coach if the fans didn't ask for it. If you want someone else to coach this team then you better be saying it to whoever will listen. Keeping quiet isn't being "mature."
Anyway that's all I will say on that before Piombino starts harassing me again.
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No. I'm saying there are different types of fans. Some drink the Kool-Aid, some love to hate....etc
And the pessimistic fans are no more wrapped up in ND as the Kool-Aid drinkers. What makes you think that?
I'd say the least mature fans I've run into are the die-hard kool-aids. By far.
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In his defense both he and Galloway mentioned PJ Fleck as a "perfect" candidate to coach ND after he stated ND should let Kelly go. Don't know if people on the board will take it as a good endorsement for Fleck though...
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Not so fast my friend. Old Miss opened their door to the NCAA much like ND did and that is going to bite then in the as* soon. The Tunsil stuff was just the beginning. Within the last two weeks Ole Miss has been running for cover. There is a reason they put Barney on leave the other day. Former recruits like Lei Lewis has apparently been dropping some major dimes on Old Miss the last two weeks. Even the toughest Rebel fans have started singing a different tune about what is coming down on them.
As far as this ruling with ND.... A bunch of BS from the NCAA. Plain and simple BS.
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Do you recall that recent NYT article in which both Swarbrick and Jenkins state that ND would leave the NCAA and form its own league with other like-minded programs if the status quo devolved to the point that we could no longer maintain our integrity while remaining competitive? I worried then that we'd find ourselves there sooner than later based on current trends, and the NCAA's ruling today hasn't changed my mind at all.
We're holding ourselves to a standard that most of our peers once grudgingly respected, but now openly sneer at. We didn't get a fair hearing after the Kim Dunbar incident, we didn't get a fair hearing here, and we'll continue to get hosed in the future.
So we're faced with the choice of selling our souls and becoming no different from our peers, or trying to hold onto our integrity and making radical departure from top flight competitive football.
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I hope not. That would be the end of ND football....
I don't see many teams following us into our own "independent" league.
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Haha just found out about that.
1. At least this means the Alabama beating never happened.
2. The NCAA cannot take away my memories of the 2012 season and me attending the Pinstripe bowl in 2013.
3. Hope Notre Dame administration has learned their lesson about ratting themselves out. But, I doubt it.
4. This should be the nail in the coffin for Brian Kelly now.
5. Does this add to the Notre Dame street cred with the kids now. The 4 arrested for gun this summer and now on probation. Seems like our street cred should be moving up.
6. In all honesty Notre Dame should consider dropping football. They will never be a national contender if they want to hold themselves to higher standards and handcuff the program.
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1. At least this means the Alabama beating never happened.
2. The NCAA cannot take away my memories of the 2012 season and me attending the Pinstripe bowl in 2013.
3. Hope Notre Dame administration has learned their lesson about ratting themselves out. But, I doubt it.
4. This should be the nail in the coffin for Brian Kelly now.
5. Does this add to the Notre Dame street cred with the kids now. The 4 arrested for gun this summer and now on probation. Seems like our street cred should be moving up.
6. In all honesty Notre Dame should consider dropping football. They will never be a national contender if they want to hold themselves to higher standards and handcuff the program.
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Think we can get the vacation of all records extended into this season?
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If the NCAA can give JoePed and Ped St. their wins back, I don't see how ND won't get theirs. Ridiculous.
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Really. PSU wasn't bad according to the NCAA. But Notre Dame with their sh*t not sticking having this scandal. Game over for ND.
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NCAA Ruling on the ND Academic Scandal
Can Kelly be fired now without any monetary repercussion? This was well played if so. Smear the name of the university and program to save a few bucks.
Can Kelly be fired now without any monetary repercussion? This was well played if so. Smear the name of the university and program to save a few bucks.
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Well the sanctions don't tell us anything new about what Kelly did or knew so I don't see why it would affect him. ND was certainly aware of the situation before they extended him.
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Pretty much encapsulates exactly why Notre Dame got hit how it did. She just equated Notre Dame to AUBURN AND MIAMI for the crime of: catching students cheating, immediately suspending them, and reporting the cheating. She says those actions mean Notre Dame has "lost moral high ground" and has "principles as malleable as Miami" and so on...
And then she complains about sideline tantrums... you know, the ones that haven't existed for years and aren't nearly as bad as half the coaches in college football. And then she talks about Declan Sullivan... because somehow, that applies to students cheating on papers? She even goes so far as to say gusting winds aren't common in South Bend... ummm... And then she blames Kelly for "trying to sweep Prince Shembo under the rug"... which is just a bold faced lie.
Haters are very easy to spot. She's obviously one.
They exist everywhere... including many fans of teams we've never played, like Virginia Tech fans last year. It's why we got smacked over Dunbar for a $25 subscription of hers and why we got smacked here over a student's hobby making her an "athletics representative." One day ND may wake up, but I doubt it.
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He's from Memphis and spends his week gargling Saban's sack in Alabama. Going to Hell would be a huge upgrade.
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Makes no difference. May actually make it worse than if you'd just lawyered up and fought it. Back in 2007 Bama discovered that a few of our players were getting extra text books on their scholly accounts to lend to friends. We stopped it, self-reported, doubled the suspension for the players that the NCAA recommended, and the NCAA investigation found no evidence that the university knew about it or that players were making money doing it. We did everything right too and cooperated. Didn't matter. Still got put on probation and had to vacate wins.
You guys got screwed on this, just like we did 9 years ago. Doing the right thing or it not being an institutional issue doesn't matter. The NCAA is rarely fair or reasonable.
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You think the administration feels stupid holding out and eventually suspending the Frozen Five players now?
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Anyone else feel bad for BK? I agree that it's time for him to go but he's had such bad luck. Between Declan Sullivan, injuries, this shit, and other controversies I'm amazed he hasn't resigned. He seems to me atleast to be a pretty good guy who is unfairly cast as an asshole in the media. Idk maybe it's Stockholm syndrome.
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This is good. The beat down in south beach from Sabah didn't happen now. This helps my recovery process and aids me in forgetting my vbuck and real buck disaster on that cold January day.
I wish ND would have self imposed a bowl ban this year....
I wish ND would have self imposed a bowl ban this year....
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Feel bad for a guy getting paid like he is? Nah. Would I blame him for leaving ND for another job? Nope.