Head Coaching Carousel

[Rack Em]

The funds mostly come from donors. If A&M has anything it's lots of money. Oh... and lots of expectations.

BTW, I like you TTT. You're a pretty radical dude.

I just don't like the state-school-football-arms race that leads to me paying more taxes.

And Jemele Hill. I don't like her either.

 

[Huntr]

I don't understand how A&M is more attractive than FSU?

It's rumored his contract at aTm will be like $7.5 mll/yr for 10 yrs. That's a lot more than what fsu can afford.

Plus what KellyisIt said about the boosters. He pissed off some folks this yr by mentioning the need for better facilities...while having a historically bad yr for them.

 

[Legacy]

Fisher's contract reportedly is $7.5 million for 10 years.

 

[NDRock]

BTW, I like you TTT. You're a pretty radical dude.

I just don't like the state-school-football-arms race that leads to me paying more taxes.

And Jemele Hill. I don't like her either.

Don’t these big time programs actually make money for the school? A recent article about A&M showed the athletics department was giving back money into the general fund.

 

[stlnd01]

I don't understand how A&M is more attractive than FSU?

Kind of sounds like things have gone completely sideways for Jimbo internally at FSU. Otherwise I’d agree it makes very little sense. (Even considering better money).

 

[T Town Tommy]

Don’t these big time programs actually make money for the school? A recent article about A&M showed the athletics department was giving back money into the general fund.

A lot of the bigger programs can do that. The problem is when the price is driven up it requires smaller schools to do the same when they can't afford it. The price to try and compete is insane.

 

[GATTACA!]

OK, no more arguing. Just tell me who the ND coach is in 2017 if Kelly is fired in 2016.

 

[IrishLion]

I hope Taggart leaves Oregon just to laugh at Braden Lenzy's lying ass...

Why? He picked Oregon to run track for honorable men, football has nothing to do with it.

 

[Bishop2b5]

And TBO, Meyer was great at Utah, but the success he had at UF was beyond expectations. Ditto for what Saban has done at Bama. He obviously was good at LSU, but his championship year was the only year (in five) that he lost less than 3 games. He too, has over performed to expectations.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

So...
1) Jimbo tanks program.
2) Jimbo first to abandon ship.

Sounds like this was all very predictable.

 

[Legacy]

Taggert, Brohm, Strong, and Kiffin have finished their first years. Looking for more taxpayer money?

Donor money from Oregon, probably. The others?

 

[zelezo vlk]

It's a fucking farm school in buttfuck nowhere. How in the Sam Hell does that school have any non-laundered money?

Black gold, and plenty of other things. Manziel's family apparently earned their money at least partly through illicit gains. The Aggies are thick like cockroaches here in Texas, and they are rabid with deep pockets.

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[Legacy]

GOP tax plan could crimp million-dollar college coaches (Wash Examiner)

Their blueprint would slap a 20 percent excise tax on the nonprofit organizations, to be levied against salaries of $1 million or more paid, if applicable, to their five highest earners. This measure could impact private and public universities.

At Duke University, a private institution that pays head basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski more than $7 million annually, a 20 percent excise tax would cost about $1.5 million annually. At the University of Alabama, where head football coach Nick Saban earns $11 million, the tax would cost the school more than $2 million every year.

"As I read it, it covers public and private universities," said Elaine Wilson, a law professor at West Virginia University, although she said the bill was ambiguous and the Internal Revenue Service could interpret the proposal differently.

Philip Hackney, a law professor at Louisiana State University, said eligibility for the 20 percent excise tax would depend on how coaches are paid.

"It depends on where Saban is getting his money," Hackney said, explaining that if the Crimson Tide's head coach gets paid by some sort of nonprofit entity within the university, it would apply. If he's paid directly by the state, no tax might be owed.

 

[Legacy]

Go Ahead, Republicans. Tax College Sports. (Bloomberg)

In an email to me, Colombo wrote, "Big time college sports is already a cesspool of money, and the federal government doesn't need to be subsidizing 50-yard-line seats or skyboxes at the University of Alabama or Notre Dame, or Michigan or anywhere else."

Amazingly, both the House and the Senate now appear to agree with Colombo. A spokesman for Kevin Brady, the chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee—and a Texan—told the Austin American-Statesman that the deduction is "the epitome of a special-interest loophole" and that it was forcing taxpayers to "subsidize front-row seats and luxury boxes for wealthy boosters." Which is completely accurate. It is absurd to treat seat licenses like contributions to an engineering school, and it's nice to see Congress finally acknowledging that.

Additionally, the House tax bill calls for a 20 percent excise tax against the salaries of the five highest-paid executives of a nonprofit organization once those salaries top $1 million. For most nonprofits, this will have little or no effect. But for universities in general, and athletic departments in particular, this could be a very big deal.

 

[irishog77]

It's a fucking farm school in buttfuck nowhere. How in the Sam Hell does that school have any non-laundered money?

Oil, cattle, and computers. I also think the entire Texas system has the largest endowment on the planet. At least they did a few years ago.

This was a big reason a&m was the big coup in the conference shake-up a few years ago. General population and talent were big too, but the idea was that a&m was finally ready to start spending some of their arsenal money- think what stanford did a few years ago...but with an actual like of football, a school that actually cares about football, and shitloads more money.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Hypothetical:

Would anyone hear approve/accept Mike Leach has head coach of Notre Dame?

 

[zelezo vlk]

Hypothetical:

Would anyone hear approve/accept Mike Leach has head coach of Notre Dame?

He would hate the attention.

 

[Corry]

Hypothetical:

Would anyone hear approve/accept Mike Leach has head coach of Notre Dame?

That’s going to a no from me dog.

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

GOP tax plan could crimp million-dollar college coaches (Wash Examiner)

I wonder how this would work with our payment structure for Kelly. Doesn't the school only pay him like $2mil and then the rest of his salary comes from other sources

 

[ab2cmiller]

He would hate the attention.

Exactly. Would be a disaster. Can't think of a coach that would be less suited to deal with all of the baggage that comes with being the ND coach.

 

[irishog77]

Hypothetical:

Would anyone hear approve/accept Mike Leach has head coach of Notre Dame?

He would hate the attention.

Yeah, I don't think Leach himself would approve or accept the job.

NDNation definitely wouldn't- I don't think the guy's ever had a 1,000 yard rusher.

 

[RDU Irish]

GOP tax plan could crimp million-dollar college coaches (Wash Examiner)

United way would have to cut the salary for their CEO ($1.2M) - tons of hospital administrators would get it too. I don't have a problem with this one bit, I would probably take it down to $500,000. So many of these non-profits are really salary machines for some rich AF folks.

 

[BGIF]

Hypothetical:

Would anyone hear approve/accept Mike Leach has head coach of Notre Dame?

Hammes Bookstore has a ban on pirate flags.

 

[IrishLion]

Hammes Bookstore has a ban on pirate flags.

Easily lifted if they can brand the Jolly Roger in blue and gold and sell for $$$$$

 

[drayer54]

Hypothetical:

Would anyone hear approve/accept Mike Leach has head coach of Notre Dame?

I would be all in. Love it. I'd consider a season pass for the press conferences.

 

[drayer54]

Ohhh, and Jimbo Fisher to A&M. They must have unloaded the purse.

The swagcopter must have been fueled up well too.

Not everyone thinks A&M is a midlevel program...

 

[Rack Em]

Easily lifted if they can brand the Jolly Roger in blue and gold and sell for $$$$$

The UA logo could replace the cross bones

 

[irishff1014]

GOP tax plan could crimp million-dollar college coaches (Wash Examiner)

I still think it should be illegal to use state money for athletics. JMO

 

[BGIF]

Like the sands through an hourglass ...

Like the sands through an hourglass ...

https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...-coach-phil-fulmer-its-new-athletic-director/

The latest chapter of the soap opera in Knoxville is about to unfold
Tom Fornelli
33m ago

If you pitched this Tennessee coaching search as a television show, I'm not sure even Netflix would buy it.

The latest episode of "The Vols of our Lives" has former Tennessee coach Phil Fulmer being named the school's athletic director. Fulmer replaces John Currie, who Tennessee fired on Friday after Currie's decision to fire Butch Jones resulted in the world's worst coaching search.

After a fan revolt following the near-hire of Ohio State defensive coordinator Greg Schiano, Tennessee went through candidate after candidate for its vacancy, doing little more than helping coaches at other schools secure raises by using the Vols as leverage.
The hope now is that Fulmer will bring some much-needed stability to the program as it attempts to get through these rough waters. Of course, it should be pointed out that Sports Illustrated's Bruce Feldman reported Friday that Fulmer was trying to "undermine" Currie's efforts in hopes of securing the AD position for himself.

Bruce Feldman
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@BruceFeldmanCFB
Industry source: “Throughout this entire (#Tennessee) coaching search Phil Fulmer has tried to undermine AD John Currie in hopes of becoming the AD there.” https://www.si.com/college-football/2017/12/01/mike-leach-tennessee-football-coach …
9:11 AM - Dec 1, 2017​

And now here we are, as Tennessee announced Fulmer as its acting athletic director on Friday.

"Phillip Fulmer will begin serving as athletic director effective immediately," said Tennessee chancellor Beverly Davenport in a school release. "I have taken these steps in the best interest of the university. I am confident that Phillip understands the need to support our student-athletes and our commitment to excellence in all athletic programs. I appreciate his willingness to serve during this critical time."​

It's important to remember that before Tennessee hired Currie to be its new athletic director in February, Fulmer was also being considered for the job.

Fulmer, of course, was the coach at Tennessee from 1992 to 2008. He went 152-52 during his 17 seasons in Knoxville, winning two SEC crowns as well as a national title in 1998. His dismissal following the 2008 season led to the hiring of Lane Kiffin, which was the first domino in a long, painful chain reaction that has resulted in Fulmer's return.
As for where it goes from here, remember to tune in next week to "The Vols of our Lives."

 

[ab2cmiller]

Not only did Currie take the AD job that Fulmer wanted, but he was the Assistant Athletic Director at Tennessee when Fulmer was fired. Maybe a little bit of animosity.