Head Coaching Carousel

[BobbyMac]

What the hell are you guys talking about?

They've had one season above .500 in the last 5 years. Said otherwise, can't win in the big ten...

Their recruiting is terrible. ND and Indiana have finished above Purdue in the 247 team rankings in EACH of the past 5 years. Said otherwise, they bat 3rd in their own state...

They only have 2-3 star recruits this year, when their coach was actually good. They haven't had a 4-star recruit since 2013...

Their head coach is trying to leave them for a team who's AD is on the hot seat.

Still 0-5.

You need to recognize the difference between the words haven't and can't.

 

[koonja]

Still 0-5.

You need to recognize the difference between the words haven't and can't.

That place is a head coaching graveyard for anyone with a name. Wouldn't touch it with Rackem's tiny wenis.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Still 0-5.

You need to recognize the difference between the words haven't and can't.

You need to recognize Koonja isn't going to stop hot takes.

 

[koonja]

You need to recognize Koonja isn't going to stop hot takes.

It's not a hot take if you look at the facts and don't troll.

 

[Ndaccountant]

You need to recognize Koonja isn't going to stop hot takes.

he be like

 

[Ndaccountant]

It's not a hot take if you look at the facts and don't troll.

as Crusader said...you need to make sure you articulate the difference between, say, the last 5 years and the last 20. Since 1997, ND has won 7 or more games in a season 14 times. Purdue has won 9, 10 if they win the bowl game.

Tiller was a very stable coach and consistently won 7 games a year there. Sure, that is CFP material, but isn't doormat either.

 

[koonja]

as Crusader said...you need to make sure you articulate the difference between, say, the last 5 years and the last 20. Since 1997, ND has won 7 or more games in a season 14 times. Purdue has won 9, 10 if they win the bowl game.

Tiller was a very stable coach and consistently won 7 games a year there. Sure, that is CFP material, but isn't doormat either.

I don't think 1997 matters in regards to present day Purdue.

The last 5 years...

They have 4 losing seasons.
5 losing seasons if you look at BIG 10 games alone.
They've finished 3rd in the recruiting rankings in their own state, 5 straight years.

You can make a play on semantics, talk about the 90s, or whatever else you want... But nothing else needs to be said to show how bad of a job that is right now.

 

[ab2cmiller]

I don't think 1997 matters in regards to present day Purdue.

The last 5 years...

They have 4 losing seasons.
5 losing seasons if you look at BIG 10 games alone.
They've finished 3rd in the recruiting rankings in their own state, 5 straight years.

You can make a play on semantics, talk about the 90s, or whatever else you want... But nothing else needs to be said to show how bad of a job that is right now.

If it was as bad of a job as you let on, a real career killer, why did Brohm accept the job and why wouldn't he jump ship to Tennessee for big money. You must believe Brohm is pretty stupid.

 

[koonja]

If it was as bad of a job as you let on, a real career killer, why did Brohm accept the job and why wouldn't he jump ship to Tennessee for big money. You must believe Brohm is pretty stupid.

Just because A job is open doesn't mean Brohm will automatically take it.

Brohm won't be there in 2019, and possible not even in 2018. No one held in any regard is staying at Purdue.

 

[Ndaccountant]

I don't think 1997 matters in regards to present day Purdue.

The last 5 years...

They have 4 losing seasons.
5 losing seasons if you look at BIG 10 games alone.
They've finished 3rd in the recruiting rankings in their own state, 5 straight years.

You can make a play on semantics, talk about the 90s, or whatever else you want... But nothing else needs to be said to show how bad of a job that is right now.

1997-2008 matters when you say

Said otherwise, can't win in the big ten

. They have won, just not recently.

By your measure, Texas would be a terrible job to. In the last 5 years, they have won more than 6 games just once.

 

[koonja]

1997-2008 matters when you say . They have won, just not recently.

By your measure, Texas would be a terrible job to. In the last 5 years, they have won more than 6 games just once.

False. Texas can recruit, and is the top school in it's state as far as prestige, and, well, recruiting.

Purdue is THIRD.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Just because A job is open doesn't mean Brohm will automatically take it.

Brohm won't be there in 2019, and possible not even in 2018. No one held in any regard is staying at Purdue.

But again, if it was a bad place to coach, Brohm wouldn't have accepted it, because he knew it would be bad for his career path. A career killer. Brohm obviously thought he could win at Purdue and then get a better job after that. Nobody is saying that Brohm would stay at Purdue for 20 years.

 

[koonja]

But again, if it was a bad place to coach, Brohm wouldn't have accepted it, because he knew it would be bad for his career path. A career killer. Brohm obviously thought he could win at Purdue and then get a better job after that. Nobody is saying that Brohm would stay at Purdue for 20 years.

Brohm didn't have the resume to get a better gig before Purdue, obviously. Coaches stock goes up and down over time.

Obviously getting a crappy program that hasn't had a winning season in 5 years to go 6-6 is such an accomplishment, his stock is up enough to get calls for better jobs, which he'll inevitably take.

The fact that going 6-6 at Purdue is viewed around college football as "this coach is on the rise" further proves my point that Purdue is a horrible head coaching job. You go 6-6 and you get a raise to go somewhere else.

 

[Ndaccountant]

False. Texas can recruit, and is the top school in it's state as far as prestige, and, well, recruiting.

Purdue is THIRD.

Prestige is so passe when you take a 5 year view.

Total composite score of last 5 signed classes - Texas 1,245.28 A&M 1,303.96
A&M had 3 of the 5 years with a better class.

In 2017....you know how many of the top 10 players in the state went to Texas....0. Over the last 5 signed classes, A&M and Texas have the same amount of top 10 players from Texas.

Texas is not the clear favorite in the state that you think it is, based on record and recruiting.

BTW....you know who the real winner in texas is.....LSU. They get the same amount of top targets as both A&M and UT.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Only 10 of ~130 college coaches are at their Alma Matter. I feel like we as fans always think that's where they want to go, but it's not often the case.

That number is actually high considering for every Harbaugh/Shaw/Smart types coaching at their alma mater there are 20 Saban/Meyer/C.Kelly/Jimbo/B.Kelly/ Fleck/Malzahn types who played at a DII or tiny DI school.

 

[T Town Tommy]

A&M guys are saying the Jimbo deal is done and will be announced shortly.

 

[koonja]

If anyone thinks Purdue is a decent job and anything other than a resume builder for someone who cant do better that's fine. we just don't have to talk college football together. We can talk home improvements instead.

 

[IrishInFl]

Inside info: Jimbo is 90% likely to take the TAMU job. If this is the case, Willie Taggart will be hired at FSU damn near immediate.

 

[pkt77242]

LOL at ASU.

Report: Herm Edwards expected to be new head coach at Arizona State - FootballScoop

 

[Valpodoc85]

From D Burge

CONSUMER ALERT: If you receive an unfamiliar phone call from area code 865, do NOT answer! It could be the University of Tennessee trying to trick you into accepting a job as head football coach

 

[BobbyMac]

It's not a hot take if you look at the facts and don't troll.

1. They bat 3rd in their own state for recruiting.

2. A state that's not even a good state for recruiting.

3. They can't recruit nationally.

4. They have little to no history.

5. Then you do play a B1G-WEST schedule, that you can never win in.

It's the elephant grave yard of CFB.

1. They currently "bat" 7th at best behind ND, Michigan, Ohio St, Mich St, Iowa & IU. They will pass IU next year and stay there as along as they have an equal coach as IU, which they do for the first time since Tiller. Purdue can control the 3 star home market recruits. In 2019, they'll get Karlaftis and Kiser, both who'll end up 4*'s.

2. Indiana isn't bad for recruiting. Per 247 it's the #17 state for producing 3 Star and above recruits in 2018. That's ahead of AZ, AR, KY, MO, NV, NY, OK, OR, UT & WI. Just last year, Indy's MIC football conference was ranked by Maxpreps the #8 toughest in the country and was #2 on that list for an all public league conference.

3. Purdue's current roster is comprised of the following:

SEC region - FL/GA/SC/TN/AL/MS/LA = 44 (Did not include all the KY players)

TX = 8

CA = 8

Other non-regional states = 12

That's 73 total national players. Purdue has more national players than regional players... which includes Indiana, Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky, Illinois, Wisconsin, Iowa & Missouri.

4. The whole Position U thing started at Purdue with QB's.

Cecil Isbell
Len Dawson
Bob Griese
Mike Phillips
Gary Danielson
Mark Hermann
Scott Campbell
Jim Everett
Drew Brees
Kyle Orton

Hard to say a school has no history when Brees is going to become the all time leading passer next season. Forget the

5. You just became the first IE poster in history to say the B1G-W is an unwinnable gauntlet.

 

[Rack Em]

That place is a head coaching graveyard for anyone with a name. Wouldn't touch it with Rackem's tiny wenis.

We all agree that I have a nice, average-sized penis thank you very much.

Your old lady can tell you about it.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Lane being Lane. LOL

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[ab2cmiller]

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[stlnd01]

LOL at ASU.

Report: Herm Edwards expected to be new head coach at Arizona State - FootballScoop

Kevin Sumlin would have killed in that job. Instead they go hire Herm Edwards?

 

[NDbrbkny]

Jonathan Smith returns home as Oregon state head coach

 

[ACamp1900]

Why do people buy into Sumlin so hard? He had two good years at Houston but wasn't anything to write home about at A&M... I don't see it.

 

[IrishLax]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Late update: Dave Doeren has a potential deal with Tennessee, according to sources, and an improved offer from N.C. State. He is expected to make a decision on Thursday</p>— Joe Giglio (@jwgiglio) <a href="https://twitter.com/jwgiglio/status/936101702347960321?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 30, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Vols fans don't want him and they are rioting again on twitter. And why would they? He sucks, and is a crybaby. This is the most insane coaching search ever.

 

[arrowryan]

I can't even lie, most of the time I think the coaching carousel that happens right after a season and recruiting on, and right before, NSD is more entertaining than the actual football season. The season isn't even technically over yet and we have new drama everyday.

Never change, CFB.

 

[Irish#1]

If anyone thinks Purdue is a decent job and anything other than a resume builder for someone who cant do better that's fine. we just don't have to talk college football together. We can talk home improvements instead.

Good idea, because you are way off base. Purdue has been lousy the last five years because of a bad coaching hire and an AD that was pinching pennies his last 10 years. You stated they have no history and can't recruit which is incorrect according to your original statements.

What you should have said is, "IMO Purdue is currently a graveyard for coaches and they haven't won anything in the last five years. Why would a coach go there?" Then you wouldn't have gotten an argument.

Tiller did just fine there and turned down a couple of "better" jobs while he was there. Much like ND made several bad hires (Willingham and Weis) and the record reflected it, Purdue did the same thing with Ford and Hazell. Doesn't mean the school will never win and will always be a doormat. Brohm took Hazell's players and instantly won 6 games. That's coaching and reinforces my statement about bad hires. Brohm also turned down the Vols and according to your thought process has to be as bad or a worse job than Purdue at the moment. As I mentioned previously, Purdue is upgrading facilities and have opened the purse strings, so you should see an improved product, which is probably one reason Brohm turned down the Vols.