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[PANDFAN]

Go after Levi Draper please.....

why, to waste a scholly on a kid who has played mostly special teams...had like 3 tackles and we have plenty of linebackers...what am i missing??

 

[Irish#1]

Would Book have started in 2018 after that...

OR WOULD WE HAVE BEEN STARTING TRUE FRESHMAN PHIL JURKOVEC???

If we had, at this time we'd be discussing how he's regressed and BK can't develop QB's.

 

[Dizzyphil]

Since McGlinchey is one of them, thought I would put this here

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SuperBowlLIV?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SuperBowlLIV</a> by Recruiting Rankings<br><br>Starting Lineups (Offense/Defense)<br>5⭐ - 4<br>4⭐ - 8<br>3⭐ - 16<br>2⭐ - 9<br>Unranked - 7<br><br>Both O-Lines<br>5⭐ - 0<br>4⭐ - 1<br>3⭐ - 2<br>2⭐ - 4<br>Unranked - 3</p>— NCAAF Nation (@NCAAFNation247) <a href="https://twitter.com/NCAAFNation247/status/1220341099002236928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[koonja]

Since McGlinchey is one of them, thought I would put this here

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SuperBowlLIV?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SuperBowlLIV</a> by Recruiting Rankings<br><br>Starting Lineups (Offense/Defense)<br>5⭐ - 4<br>4⭐ - 8<br>3⭐ - 16<br>2⭐ - 9<br>Unranked - 7<br><br>Both O-Lines<br>5⭐ - 0<br>4⭐ - 1<br>3⭐ - 2<br>2⭐ - 4<br>Unranked - 3</p>— NCAAF Nation (@NCAAFNation247) <a href="https://twitter.com/NCAAFNation247/status/1220341099002236928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That OL number is incredible and interesting.

 

[NDRock]

That OL number is incredible and interesting.

Not too surprised about OL. More of a developmental position. Seems like highly rated DL have a higher hit rate as they’re just so athletic. Seems like CB is another position you see a lot of pros from smaller schools. Is there a breakdown somewhere?

 

[Dizzyphil]

Not too surprised about OL. More of a developmental position. Seems like highly rated DL have a higher hit rate as they’re just so athletic. Seems like CB is another position you see a lot of pros from smaller schools. Is there a breakdown somewhere?

Not that I have been able to find. I looked but that’s it. I’m gonna let someone else figure it out. Too much work for me! LOL

 

[zelezo vlk]

So is McGlinchey the only 4 star OL?

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[Dizzyphil]

So is McGlinchey the only 4 star OL?

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Yup

 

[BobbyMac]

That OL number is incredible and interesting.

This is what I've been preaching for years... The NFL is littered with former 3* - 6-4/275 HS OL's that went to mid level B1G schools and started their 3rd, 4th and 5th years.

Snaps > Stars

 

[stlnd01]

This is what I've been preaching for years... The NFL is littered with former 3* - 6-4/275 HS OL's that went to mid level B1G schools and started their 3rd, 4th and 5th years.

Snaps > Stars

Is that more true at OL than other positions? (I tend to think yes, but curious how much so.)
Because lots of people preach bringing in five-stars who plan to go three-and-out, and hyping your program as an NFL Draft machine. Like Georgia or Ohio State.

 

[GowerND11]

So is McGlinchey the only 4 star OL?

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And even McG was seen as a project as a 4 star!

This is what I've been preaching for years... The NFL is littered with former 3* - 6-4/275 HS OL's that went to mid level B1G schools and started their 3rd, 4th and 5th years.

Snaps > Stars

Absolutely. Just look at how a lot of these guys are put together as high schoolers. Many just need dedicated weight training and a training table for them to really reach their potential. Those 5 star OLs (which are great to get) are many times just so much more physically mature as a 16, 17, 18 yr old, but that 3 star just needs to catch up.

 

[Old Man Mike]

I also think that recruit "analysts" have very little clue about OLine. They have no way to "eye-test" this sort of athlete, since so much of OLine success is Heart and Dedication, and Brains.

 

[EvilleIrish]

That OL number is incredible and interesting.

I have always felt that evaluating HS OL has to be the hardest. How do you tell if a guy is good only because he's so much bigger?

 

[GowerND11]

I have always felt that evaluating HS OL has to be the hardest. How do you tell if a guy is good only because he's so much bigger?

Footwork, play to the whistle, competition level, how does he look in pads (carrying the weight), how does he look out of pads, block in space, just a road grader?, just a pass pro guy?, etc.

I agree probably the most difficult, but those are all part of it.

 

[IrishLax]

Not too surprised about OL. More of a developmental position. Seems like highly rated DL have a higher hit rate as they’re just so athletic. Seems like CB is another position you see a lot of pros from smaller schools. Is there a breakdown somewhere?

There are some very smart people that basically think the least relevant position to recruit high-star players... but the most important to recruit "upside" and depth... is the OL. The issue is "projecting" from one level to the next. With OL, you basically just want big frame guys with a mean streak and then figure out the rest. Wisconsin proves this on a yearly basis.

Most important to recruit high star players? Offensive skill, and DL. Could also make an argument for DB, but a lot of those guys are "athletes" that they find the best spot for.

 

[BabyIrish]

There are some very smart people that basically think the least relevant position to recruit high-star players... but the most important to recruit "upside" and depth... is the OL. The issue is "projecting" from one level to the next. With OL, you basically just want big frame guys with a mean streak and then figure out the rest. Wisconsin proves this on a yearly basis.

Most important to recruit high star players? Offensive skill, and DL. Could also make an argument for DB, but a lot of those guys are "athletes" that they find the best spot for.

Not QB?

 

[IrishFaninTX]

Not QB?

Wouldn't QB be considered a skill position?

 

[ThePiombino]

Wouldn't QB be considered a skill position?

Yup

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[Dizzyphil]

one dart.... one dodgeball.... one lawn-dart.. one guess.... where is the private school??? and... where is the Church school in this list?????


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[Blazers46]

I also think that recruit "analysts" have very little clue about OLine. They have no way to "eye-test" this sort of athlete, since so much of OLine success is Heart and Dedication, and Brains.

And Durability

 

[BGIF]

I also think that recruit "analysts" have very little clue about OLine. They have no way to "eye-test" this sort of athlete, since so much of OLine success is Heart and Dedication, and Brains.

I'll add to that the analysts highly rate the big guys that had a growth spurt in HS and manhandled their outsized HS opponents.

Many of the 3 stars that shine in college were late bloomers developing size AND strength in a college weight program, aided by a training table, and improve their technique through the first two or three years in a program while some of those HS wonders never get any better having peaked in the recruiting service camps.

 

[Dizzyphil]

 

[NorthDakota]

I'll add to that the analysts highly rate the big guys that had a growth spurt in HS and manhandled their outsized HS opponents.

Many of the 3 stars that shine in college were late bloomers developing size AND strength in a college weight program, aided by a training table, and improve their technique through the first two or three years in a program while some of those HS wonders never get any better having peaked in the recruiting service camps.

North Dakota State has manhandled Iowa, Minnesota, Iowa State, and Kansas State over the last decade by getting a lot of late bloomers.

Obviously you dont want an entire line of projects, then you end up like a Florida State

 

[Luckylucci]

Unsure of the best place to put this but Daronte Jones is off the DB coach board as he'll sign with the Minnesota Viking, per Jamie at ISD.

That leaves Christian Parker. Since we're mainly looking at NFL guys, that's probably the hold up here.

Also, Brian Polian has told Cane Berrong not to expect a TE coach before Feb. 1st. So he'll reschedule his visit. Sounds like mainly NFL guys for this position as well.

 

[NDdomer2]

Unsure of the best place to put this but Daronte Jones is off the DB coach board as he'll sign with the Minnesota Viking, per Jamie at ISD.

That leaves Christian Parker. Since we're mainly looking at NFL guys, that's probably the hold up here.

Also, Brian Polian has told Cane Berrong not to expect a TE coach before Feb. 1st. So he'll reschedule his visit. Sounds like mainly NFL guys for this position as well.

from packers website:

Christian Parker enters his first season as a Packers' defensive quality control coach in 2019, having been named to the position on Feb. 1, 2019. He joins the Packers after working as a defensive analyst at Texas A&M last season.

In his current role in Green Bay, Parker will work closely with defensive coordinator Mike Pettine with a focus on coaching the secondary in addition to breaking down opponent game film and analyzing their offensive tendencies, developing the playbook, compiling team and player reports and coordinating the opponent scout team.

As a defensive analyst for Texas A&M in 2018, Parker worked primarily with the secondary. He helped develop DB Donovan Wilson, a sixth-round pick of the Dallas Cowboys in 2019 who totaled 66 tackles (37 solo), two sacks and two interceptions in 2018. As a unit, the Aggie defense ranked No. 3 nationally in rushing defense, No. 9 in third-down defense and No. 15 in red-zone defense.

Prior to working at Texas A&M, Parker worked as the cornerbacks coach at William & Mary in the spring of 2017. During the 2017 season, he served as a defensive analyst for Notre Dame, working mainly with the secondary. Parker helped mentor CB Julian Love, who earned second-team All-America honors from Sports Illustrated after posting 68 tackles (45 solo), three INTs and a school-record 20 pass breakups. The Irish also ranked No. 1 in the FBS in 40-yard completions allowed (one) and 50-yard completions allowed (zero) and No. 2 in 30-yard completions allowed (nine).

From 2015-16, Parker coached at Norfolk State, first as safeties coach (2015) and then as defensive backs coach (2016). Additionally, he served as the recruiting coordinator both seasons. Parker was a 2017 AFCA/NCAA 30 Under 30 Coaches Leadership Institute selection after he helped the Spartans rank among the top 10 nationally in interceptions (18), pass-efficiency defense (106.9) and passing yards allowed (171.1 ypg) in 2016. He also helped a pair of defensive backs, Sandy Chapman and Brandon Walker, earn All-Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference honors. Chapman ranked second in the league in interceptions (five) and third in passes defensed (12), while Walker finished third on the team with a career-high 72 tackles.

Parker's recruiting efforts were also recognized with www.boxtorow.com ranking both of his recruiting classes in the top four among all Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs). Norfolk State's 2016 class ranked as the best in the MEAC and third among HBCUs, while the 2017 class ranked second and fourth, respectively.

Prior to coaching at Norfolk State, Parker worked at Virginia State, serving as cornerbacks coach in 2013 and secondary coach in 2014. Virginia State's defense ranked in the top 20 of Division II in total defense in both 2013 (No. 12) and 2014 (No. 20). Also in 2014, the Trojans led the Central Intercollegiate Athletic Association and ranked No. 12 nationally with 18 INTs and ranked No. 17 in pass defense (174.2 ypg). He coached an All-CIAA first-team performer in both of his years with the Trojans, mentoring DB Sean Smith in 2013 and DB Darion Thomas in 2014.

Parker played wide receiver and cornerback at the University of Richmond and was a member of Colonial Athletic Association championship teams in 2009 and 2012. He also ran track and graduated in 2013 with a degree in political science.

Born Dec. 23, 1991, in Glen Allen, Va., Parker is single and lives in Green Bay.

 

[arrowryan]

Cal is coming to South Bend in 2022

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cal announces it will play at Notre Dame on Sept. 17, 2022 in a one-game agreement between the two schools.<br><br>For Notre Dame fans critical of one-off games against Bowling Green, UMass, New Mexico, etc., this would be a welcome scheduling note.</p>— Pete Sampson (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/1221893466004783105?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[stlnd01]

I saw we’re paying Cal $1.9M to make the trip. I wasn’t aware P5 programs did paycheck games. Though I guess it’s not a home-and-home but rather a one-off, so that’s how it goes.
Still probably a harmless fun interesting change-of-pace opponent.

 

[T-Boone]

I saw Cal play in Sydney, Demetrious Robertson took the fist target but it went over his head. They played Rice. Not because its easy, but because its haaard.

 

[NDMIA]

Unsure of the best place to put this but Daronte Jones is off the DB coach board as he'll sign with the Minnesota Viking, per Jamie at ISD.

That leaves Christian Parker. Since we're mainly looking at NFL guys, that's probably the hold up here.

Also, Brian Polian has told Cane Berrong not to expect a TE coach before Feb. 1st. So he'll reschedule his visit. Sounds like mainly NFL guys for this position as well.

Thanks for the info. II guys on the podcast dropped a few nuggets on coaches. John Lilly apparently is not much of a candidate for college as he prefers to try for an NFL gig per Pete Sampson. Prister said he didn’t know why they hadn’t received any news on anyone yet. Sampson mentioned speaking with BK and mentioning the AFCA convention, HR at ND, and the 2020 recruiting class being done pretty much as reasons to take their time. Also mentioned regardless if they’re officially hired or not, Sampson thinks they’ll be around for the first Junior day this weekend. O’Malley then chimes in mentioning the hirings of most of the recent assistants and showed dates between January 14-30th. So take all that info as you want. Also, listen to the II podcast. The guys are great with nuggets and insight.

 

[NorthDakota]

I saw Cal play in Sydney, Demetrious Robertson took the fist target but it went over his head. They played Rice. Not because its easy, but because its haaard.

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