Game of Thrones

[TheSunIsRising]

I took it that way. It's gonna be interesting how they explain it. What's weird is the breadcrumbs are there for it to be Dawn, but they take good care to let us see Dawn several times and the sword that Beric has isn't it. Does his sword do it as well as Dawn? Or did they reforge Dawn? I don't know, but It should be fun to see how it plays out.



Btw, the scroll was the one that Sansa wrote under duress to Rob. Littlefucker planted it for Arya to find. It reads:

Does Beric's sword do what as well as Dawn? Spontaneously combust? I think you may be confusing Dawn with Lightbringer. Dawn does not alight during battle, or at least I have never read anything about that. Dawn certainly did not erupt in flames for Arthur Dayne during his battle at the Tower of Joy

 

[dang227]

What the scroll said

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[greyhammer90]

Best episode in several seasons.

 

[woolybug25]

Does Beric's sword do what as well as Dawn? Spontaneously combust? I think you may be confusing Dawn with Lightbringer. Dawn does not alight during battle, or at least I have never read anything about that. Dawn certainly did not erupt in flames for Arthur Dayne during his battle at the Tower of Joy

I'm not gonna explain it again, but look back a couple pages at our previous conversation about Dawn, Beric and whether it's Loghtbringer. I'm not confusing anything.

 

[IrishLax]

I took it that way. It's gonna be interesting how they explain it. What's weird is the breadcrumbs are there for it to be Dawn, but they take good care to let us see Dawn several times and the sword that Beric has isn't it. Does his sword do it as well as Dawn? Or did they reforge Dawn? I don't know, but It should be fun to see how it plays out.



Btw, the scroll was the one that Sansa wrote under duress to Rob. Littlefucker planted it for Arya to find. It reads:

One thing I realized on the drive in to work this morning is that there was a callback to the Tower of Joy when Jon leaves Daenerys and says "I wish you good fortune in the wars to come"... the same line Arthur Dayne used at ToJ before throwing down with Ned Stark. I couldn't place where I'd heard it last night, but it was certainly intentional placement and I know at least grabbed my attention.

Other callbacks:
"Tired of reading about achievements of better men" was to something Sam's dad had said to him at Horn Hill.
"I thought you might still be rowing" to every meme over last 3 years.

 

[IrishLion]

One thing I realized on the drive in to work this morning is that there was a callback to the Tower of Joy when Jon leaves Daenerys and says "I wish you good fortune in the wars to come"... the same line Arthur Dayne used at ToJ before throwing down with Ned Stark. I couldn't place where I'd heard it last night, but it was certainly intentional placement and I know at least grabbed my attention.

Other callbacks:
"Tired of reading about achievements of better men" was to something Sam's dad had said to him at Horn Hill.
"I thought you might still be rowing" to every meme over last 3 years.

After Randyll and Dickon got toasted, I was like, "Sam is going to be the new lord of Horn Hill once the Night's Watch is officially done/disbanded/relieved/destroyed."

But now I think that at the end of the series, King Jon Snow Targaryen is going to task Sam with recording the history of Ice and Fire, should the Long Night ever return under new evil.

Sam will also play Maester to Little Sam, who will be the Lord of Horn Hill, alongside his mother Gilly, who will run things until Little Sam is old enough.

 

[greyhammer90]

And now for an admittedly really dumb theory:

(1) The Hound completes his story arch by dying for something he believes in while on the mission.
(2) The Hound becomes a wight as a result.
(3) The Hound is the wight they use in the meeting with Dany and Cersei.
(4) The Hound breaks free of his restraints and is met by Cersei's bodyguard, The Mountain.
(5) Undead Clegane Bowl (also thematically Ice (wight Hound) versus Fire (Gold covered Mountain who used fire to torture his brother)
(6) ????????????
(7) Hype

 

[woolybug25]

One thing I realized on the drive in to work this morning is that there was a callback to the Tower of Joy when Jon leaves Daenerys and says "I wish you good fortune in the wars to come"... the same line Arthur Dayne used at ToJ before throwing down with Ned Stark. I couldn't place where I'd heard it last night, but it was certainly intentional placement and I know at least grabbed my attention.

EDIT - Mance Rayder also said the same phrase before he died as well.

And now for an admittedly really dumb theory:

(1) The Hound completes his story arch by dying for something he believes in while on the mission.
(2) The Hound becomes a wight as a result.
(3) The Hound is the wight they use in the meeting with Dany and Cersei.
(4) The Hound breaks free of his restraints and is met by Cersei's bodyguard, The Mountain.
(5) Undead Clegane Bowl (also thematically Ice (wight Hound) versus Fire (Gold covered Mountain who used fire to torture his brother)
(6) ????????????
(7) Hype

(8) Profit

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

And now for an admittedly really dumb theory:

(1) The Hound completes his story arch by dying for something he believes in while on the mission.
(2) The Hound becomes a wight as a result.
(3) The Hound is the wight they use in the meeting with Dany and Cersei.
(4) The Hound breaks free of his restraints and is met by Cersei's bodyguard, The Mountain.
(5) Undead Clegane Bowl (also thematically Ice (wight Hound) versus Fire (Gold covered Mountain who used fire to torture his brother)
(6) ????????????
(7) Hype

You say dumb theory, I say, dope af theory

 

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i lol'ed

 

[IrishLion]

One more thing I was thinking about while reading some lore:

Someone here asked why Bran was so OP/why they jettisoned the idea that he needs to Warg into a Heart Tree to see into the past/present.

There is a passage in the books (and I think it was mentioned in the show at one point) that the most powerful Greenseers didn't need to warg into the Heart Trees to use their vision. They could see what they needed to see, when they needed to see it. It makes sense that Bran can do the same, since he's the 3ER, and it also makes sense that he's essentially comatose, since his powers came on in rush. He's overwhelmed and processing everything, since history is going through the most massive convergence ever.

It seemed like another example of bad writing that he could look into the past without the Heart Trees, but it's actually built into GRRM's narrative that way.

 

[gkIrish]

And now for an admittedly really dumb theory:

(1) The Hound completes his story arch by dying for something he believes in while on the mission.
(2) The Hound becomes a wight as a result.
(3) The Hound is the wight they use in the meeting with Dany and Cersei.
(4) The Hound breaks free of his restraints and is met by Cersei's bodyguard, The Mountain.
(5) Undead Clegane Bowl (also thematically Ice (wight Hound) versus Fire (Gold covered Mountain who used fire to torture his brother)
(6) ????????????
(7) Hype

That's not that crazy. I do feel like the Hound and Arya are going to see each other again though.

 

[gkIrish]

Jorah and Beric are for sure dying next week, right? It may get a little dusty when Jorah dies.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Jorah and Beric are for sure dying next week, right? It may get a little dusty when Jorah dies.

And the priest whose name I never remember.

 

[NDVirginia19]

And the priest whose name I never remember.

Thoros of Myr. But yeah I think Jorah is dying. OR he's going to become the wight that they capture

 

[zelezo vlk]

Thoros of Myr. But yeah I think Jorah is dying. OR he's going to become the wight that they capture

Ooo yeah, my money goes on Jeor becoming the wight.

 

[woolybug25]

Why do y'all think Jorah is gonna die? I don't see it.

 

[gkIrish]

The only reason I think Jorah may survive is because he just escaped near death a couple episodes ago so why actually kill him so soon after. But I guess with the look he have his Queen be must be a goner.

We know Tormund won't die unless he gets with Brienne. Thoros could go either way. Gendry probably lives. Jon obviously lives. I like Grey's Hound theory but I cannot see them killing both Jorah and the Hound in the same episode. That would be a kick in the nuts.

 

[gkIrish]

Why do y'all think Jorah is gonna die? I don't see it.

Him turning back to gaze at Daenerys pretty much foreshadowed it IMO.

 

[NDVirginia19]

I bet the Hound and Beric are going to die, but instead of the Lord of Light bringing back Beric, they're going to bring back the hound this time

 

[NDVirginia19]

Gendry is going to survive the winter, perhaps he will be made the new warden of the Stormlands? Since there are no more Bratheons

 

[wizards8507]

No he hasn't. He set it on fire by cutting his hand and putting his blood on it when he fought the Hound, now it spontaneously ignites.

Thoros of Myr wielded a flaming sword in the Hand's Tourney. He won the melee with it.

 

[woolybug25]

Thoros of Myr wielded a flaming sword in the Hand's Tourney. He won the melee with it.

Not in the show he doesn't. In the books, it doesn't state how the sword catches on fire during the tourney. In the show, they make special care to show him igniting it with his blood. Which is very different than spontaneously igniting.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Random thoughts:

• Gilly finding evidence of Rhaegar's annulment and remarriage in Dorne all but confirms that Jon's claim to the throne is superior to Dany's.
• Drogon coming over to nuzzle Jon is further proof that he's a Targ (as if we needed much more at this point), but I found it odd that Dany failed to comment on it. We've never seen her dragons react that way to anyone but her before.
• Was sort of annoyed by the apparent ease with which Littefinger duped Arya. She's supposed to be a max-level mystical assassin now, so how does a clever though completely mundane courtier get the best of her? Hopefully this is the beginning of the end for him, but I still think Sansa needs to kill him instead of Arya.
• Does the current plan of going north of the wall to capture a wight strike anyone else as, uh... questionable? The Army of the Dead is all together, so what are the odds they'll be able to isolate, incapacitate and carry back one without attracting a massive group of wights in the process? And from Bran's scouting mission, it looked like the Others are fairly close to Eastwatch already; so how are they are going to accomplish all this, and transport the wight all the way to King's Landing in time to negotiate an armistice and get reinforcements to the Wall in time? Lastly, Cersei's madness is well known at this point. She was prepared to burn King's Landing in wildfire a few seasons ago, and she just recently killed hundreds of innocent people in the Sept of Baelor without blinking an eye. Why would anyone believe she'll put aside her ambition for the greater good at this point, even if the fate of the world hangs in the balance?
• Those scenes at the end where the party assembles in Eastwatch's dungeon and then stands together as the door opens could have been the backstory to the best D&D campaign ever.
• Since it's ridiculously improbable that the ranging party will successfully capture a lone wight, I expect that they'll try, fail, and flee. In the process, one of them will be mortally wounded and will end up turning south of the Wall. The preview of next week's episode seemed to confirm that.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

This tiny moment from the 'Game of Thrones' Ep 6 trailer hints at a big death

Gendry dead already??

 

[IrishLion]

This tiny moment from the 'Game of Thrones' Ep 6 trailer hints at a big death

Gendry dead already??

No way. They didn't make that big to-do about him coming back, and showing his proficiency with his war hammer, and showing him and Jon laying the roots for re-forming the Stark/Baratheon friendship, just to kill him.

It's more likely that the Hound picks it up in a mad scramble to save Gendry's life or something, and then gives it back.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

No way. They didn't make that big to-do about him coming back, and showing his proficiency with his war hammer, and showing him and Jon laying the roots for re-forming the Stark/Baratheon friendship, just to kill him.

It's more likely that the Hound picks it up in a mad scramble to save Gendry's life or something, and then gives it back.

I agree with this, completely. I refuse to believe that they'd kill him off after the rebuild (unless it's horrible attempt to (rush) tie up a loose-end).

Also, I wouldn't put it past the writers to do the above. But, I wouldn't put it past the writers to show that clip in order to throw us for a loop in order to build up suspense next week while Gendry is fighting, only to find out that the Hound saves him.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Jorah dies because he's finally reunited and we are all happy for him, so....GRRM will kill him in a cold, dark place.

Beric must die because he's simply not interesting and we need fewer storylines.

They filmed it as though Littlefinger is the more clever one but I'm almost positive Arya has to be 1-5 steps ahead of him and she's only letting him see what she wants him to see.

Will they be knocking on death's door north of the wall when Jon's dragon comes flying in? The direwolves always seemed to show up when their master was nearly dead. It'd be bad ass to see Jon's dragon carry the remaining crew out of the ice while incinerating a chunk of wights.

 

[IrishLion]

I agree with this, completely. I refuse to believe that they'd kill him off after the rebuild (unless it's horrible attempt to (rush) tie up a loose-end).

Also, I wouldn't put it past the writers to do the above. But, I wouldn't put it past the writers to show that clip in order to throw us for a loop in order to build up suspense next week while Gendry is fighting, only to find out that the Hound saves him.

I would also speculate that Gendry's return, along with his budding friendship with the future King, gives us an idea of where Edric Storm and Gendry's stories are headed in the books.

Edric is currently in hiding across the sea in the books, which opens the future lordship of Storm's End to interpretation.

Gendry was knighted in the books, so combining the context of Edric/Gendry in the books, with Gendry's impending importance in the show, I'd imagine he survives to the end, and reclaims the Baratheon name in order to rebuild the house.

 

[IrishLion]

JThey filmed it as though Littlefinger is the more clever one but I'm almost positive Arya has to be 1-5 steps ahead of him and she's only letting him see what she wants him to see.

This is where I'm at.

She's a finely-tuned murder machine, both mentally and physically. She know what she doin'.