Five Players Arrested

IrishLax

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Priorities man, priorities.

Isn't it ironic that Redfield has been a disappointment, but his last act he he took one for the team? lol

How exactly did he "take one for the team?" He's most responsible for getting a lot of younger guys in significant trouble because of his irresponsible actions.
 

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Put it in the Texas thread, but BK revealed that he does not punish players for first-offenses related to marijuana.

He "educates" them, and they are then subject to random drug testing thereafter.

That's why he hasn't suspended the young guys.

I can dig that.

If it doesn't become a pattern, then I see no reason to kick them off the team.

Now if you are carrying a gun and have pills.....
 

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IIRC, a dog sniffing your car for drugs is not considered a search under the 4th amendment. That is, they don't need probable cause to use the dog.

If he had the dog in his car I'm sure it regularly participates in traffic stops.

I believe you're right. Generally I think they use the dog to get probable cause to search the car.
 

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Why the hell do they need 4 or 5 cops to pull over a car with a busted tail light? Fulton County cops look a little sketchy to me.
 

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They found a loaded gun...

So the cop that originally pulled them over called for backup because he found a gun? I guess that would make sense but they found it while searching the car, so why would the other cops be necessary during the moments before the gun was found?
 

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Why the hell do they need 4 or 5 cops to pull over a car with a busted tail light? Fulton County cops look a little sketchy to me.

It was probably one cop that pulled him over. He noticed that there was 5 people in the car so he probably asked for another unit for back up which in the times we are in is not uncommon. Once he found/saw the gun he probably asked for another unit of 2 because at that point their is a huge safety concern along with everyone being detained at that point. Then after that i don't know their policy and i am pretty sure that you don't but can they transport more then one in a car?
 

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They bring so many people to the traffic stop because they pulled over a car of 5 males and they don't want things to get out of hand. They seemed to be very professional.

And they are paranoid because even nice Notre Dame kids like these 5 are rolling with a gun. I'd be cautious too.
 
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Smfh........we've all done stupid shit in our lives, and not one of us hasn't, however, I've got no problem with any and all punishment dished out to these young men. They knew full well what they were doing and got busted. Hope they learn some kind of lesson.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BK stated Redfield having the gun was the “game-changer” in relation to him being kicked off the team.</p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/770659334653181953">August 30, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Well to be fair to Max, he knew only way he was gonna stop anyone on the football field was with a gun Last Boyscout style.
 

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Well to be fair to Max, he knew only way he was gonna stop anyone on the football field was with a gun Last Boyscout style.

This is horse sh!t. He was having a good fall camp and he was still our best option. Remember those words when we watch our safeties this year.
 

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Smh. I see no problem with what these guys did. They weren't out robbing or shooting people. Its a shame for these guys, they don't deserve the trouble they're getting
 

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Smh. I see no problem with what these guys did. They weren't out robbing or shooting people. Its a shame for these guys, they don't deserve the trouble they're getting
I hope you aren't serious. Or don't have, or won't have, kids.
 
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Smfh........we've all done stupid shit in our lives, and not one of us hasn't, however, I've got no problem with any and all punishment dished out to these young men. They knew full well what they were doing and got busted. Hope they learn some kind of lesson.

The wailing in the video makes me think the situation is a little more nuanced. - The part about knowing better. I will bet at least one person had no idea that anything was in the car and I bet most didn't know about the gun.

Number of cops : (1) patrol stop; (1) K-9; (1) State Trooper; (2-4) for transport. There could have been five to seven officers there for a traffic stop that turned into more with five occupants in the car.
 

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The wailing in the video makes me think the situation is a little more nuanced. - The part about knowing better. I will bet at least one person had no idea that anything was in the car and I bet most didn't know about the gun.

Sounds like Stepherson might be that guy.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Body cam footage from Fulton Five stop mainly focused on ND WR K.J. Stepherson and former S Max Redfield. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NDFB?src=hash">#NDFB</a> <a href="https://t.co/0LKrgmGaMf">pic.twitter.com/0LKrgmGaMf</a></p>— Jude S. (@andrewwinn) <a href="https://twitter.com/andrewwinn/status/771334392342048768">September 1, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Sounds like Stepherson might be that guy.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Body cam footage from Fulton Five stop mainly focused on ND WR K.J. Stepherson and former S Max Redfield. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NDFB?src=hash">#NDFB</a> <a href="https://t.co/0LKrgmGaMf">pic.twitter.com/0LKrgmGaMf</a></p>— Jude S. (@andrewwinn) <a href="https://twitter.com/andrewwinn/status/771334392342048768">September 1, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Yeah, it's absolutely absurd to see some internet tough guys act like they should all be thrown in the slammer when one guy is responsible for this being a big deal. One guy took a gun that wasn't his from another person and brought it with him in the car.

Otherwise, we're talking about some kids with pot... which I'm not excusing, but is hardly news. People saying "I hope you don't have kids" to other posters... get the fuck out of here with that. Odds say your kid smokes, too.
 

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Yeah, it's absolutely absurd to see some internet tough guys act like they should all be thrown in the slammer when one guy is responsible for this being a big deal. One guy took a gun that wasn't his from another person and brought it with him in the car.

Otherwise, we're talking about some kids with pot... which I'm not excusing, but is hardly news. People saying "I hope you don't have kids" to other posters... get the fuck out of here with that. Odds say your kid smokes, too.
Yep. My understanding is the gun was not Max's and he got it from someone else and brought it with him ont he trip.
 

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That makes me sick for Stepherson but I believe he can turn it into a pivot point moving forward. I hope he gets some opportunities early.
 

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They need to do 4th Amendment training with incoming players I think. Even with weed and a gun in the car, no reason to turn a routine stop into this unless they had something out in the open, the cop had a K-9 with him, or they talked.
 

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Yep. My understanding is the gun was not Max's and he got it from someone else and brought it with him ont he trip.



Why the heck did he think they needed a loaded gun for this trip!


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It's a shame how some of the most intelligent people also happen to be gigantic life morons.

Put a shirt on, Max.
I have a pic of my youngest with him just after the spring game. Fro out and jacket on with no shirt underneath. His jacket is unzipped all but the bottom inch. His signature look.
 

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Eliminate the gun for a second.

Kids speeding smoking vs drinking. If I'm another driver, I know which one I'd prefer.
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Number of cops : (1) patrol stop; (1) K-9; (1) State Trooper; (2-4) for transport. There could have been five to seven officers there for a traffic stop that turned into more with five occupants in the car.

Worst.Trip.Ever.

No pun intended.
 
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