College Basketball - FBI investigation

[dublinirish]

I thought the NCAA let Cam Newton and Auburn off because the money went to a family member(dad) and the player (Cam) was unaware. Sounds similar here.

yeah his Dad shopped his services around. Disgusting really.

 

[STLDomer]

Many parents will be found just as guilty. Kids spent a year wherever the business ppl behind it tell them to. Family takes money.

All they want is the shoe deal and to get drafted in return.

 

[Luckylucci]

Arizona is going to get hammered in this as well.

 

[NDohio]

The six schools mentioned so far are:

Louisville
Arizona
Oklahoma State
Auburn
Southern California
South Carolina

 

[ACamp1900]

I'll admit it, I'm half expecting ND to be involved some way... it would so fit our luck lately.

 

[MPClinton22]

The six schools mentioned so far are:

Louisville
Arizona
Oklahoma State
Auburn
Southern California
South Carolina

You can add Miami to this as well. They're the Florida university that is referenced

 

[NDohio]

Jim Gatto: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

While he wasn’t named in the document, WDRB News reported that recruit Brian Bowen was viewed as a “surprise commitment” when he announced June 3 he would be attending Louisville.

At one point a sum of money was agreed upon between the university and the player believed to be Bowen, but a “rival apparel company” ended up coming in for more. One of the men involved in the scheme allegedly talked to another coach at the school about obtaining more money. That’s reportedly when Gatto and Adidas stepped in and raised his offer.

According to the indictment, a coach at a college in Florida told Gatto that that he needed to pay one of its top recruits $150,000 so that the player wouldn’t attend another Division I school that was sponsored by a rival company. The player wasn’t identified, but was expected to graduate high school in 2018.

The federal documents don’t directly name the school in Florida, but refer to it as a “private research university” with an enrollment of about 16,000 students. It’s one of the state’s largest universities.

The documents refer to “Player 11” as being a student who was expected to graduate in 2019. One of the four men said the mother of the student told him “we need our f***ing money” and the group talked about how they had to be “particularly careful” in funneling the money, especially because the school was already on probation.

According to his LinkedIn profile, Gatto graduated from Elmira College in New York in 1992 with a degree in marketing. Just one year after that, he was named the head of global sports marketing for Adidas’ basketball brand.

 

[ND NYC]

"We need our f-ing money"

LOL

would love to hear these tapes

what a cesspool

 

[IrishLax]

Jim Gatto: 5 Fast Facts You Need to*Know

Wait how the fuck do you get that job one year out with a marketing degree from Elmira College?

 

[T Town Tommy]

Calipari will get out of Dodge right before the posse gets there like he did at UMass and Memphis.

But in reality, Calipari is probably a choir boy compared to Rupp.

LoL...

Isn't Indiana an Adidas school?

 

[T Town Tommy]

Wait how the fuck do you get that job one year out with a marketing degree from Elmira College?

Yeah... I read that and was like ok... who does this guy know, who is his family, etc.

 

[NDohio]

Wait how the fuck do you get that job one year out with a marketing degree from Elmira College?

Yep. That's why I quoted that part of the story. That's just crazy.

 

[IrishLax]

FBI probe could impact Louisville basketball program

This thread is crazy to read from the beginning. Every fourth post is like "no no, we're fine, it's..." and then someone else is like "nah dude, we are dead to rights"...

Feel bad for the fans, not for Pitino though.

 

[Woneone]

Just got done reading the Louisville basketball forums, and some of them really have a disconnect of what's actually going on.

Many of them are saying how this should be the nail in the coffin of the NCAA (while apparently giving Louisville another slap on the wrist I guess). If I'm the NCAA, I'm having a freaking dance-party in the office right now. They have zero subpoena power. If people shut their mouths and refuse to meet with them, then they are up a creek.

But now? The Feds getting involved?

I'd be lying if I said I understand the scope of all this, but from my point of view, this seems like a win for the NCAA if they are going to continue to push amateurism.

 

[IrishLion]

Feel bad for the fans, not for Pitino though.

Nah, Louisville fans are almost as bad as UK fans.

They deserve their misery.

Especially since they try to crow "at least we aren't as bad as UK and Cal!"

Whoops!

 

[ND NYC]

maybe one day they will investigate college football recruiting

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

maybe one day they will investigate college football recruiting

My understanding from a Div I mens assistant basketball coach is that basketball is much, much worse due to AAU.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

I'll admit it, I'm half expecting ND to be involved some way... it would so fit our luck lately.

Brey bribing?

I'm more worried about that loose cannon getting arrested for streaking.

 

[ACamp1900]

My understanding from a Div I mens assistant basketball coach is that basketball is much, much worse due to AAU.

You'd have to assume that fact that one player can change everything in basketball makes it much worse too... you can fight over a football player but if you lose him it's not make or break.

 

[STLDomer]

Today is National Compliance Day

Whole investigation is as much a FU to the NCAA as it is the guilty parties.

NCAA is a complete joke of an organization. How do you not know about an FBI sting in your organization for three years. Literally doing their job for them. Wait for it to come out that an NCAA official was part of the circle of money going around.

 

[ND NYC]

My understanding from a Div I mens assistant basketball coach is that basketball is much, much worse due to AAU.

or maybe its just so rampant and widespread that they wouldn't even know where to begin.

 

[STLDomer]

maybe one day they will investigate college football recruiting

My understanding from a Div I mens assistant basketball coach is that basketball is much, much worse due to AAU.

or maybe its just so rampant and widespread that they wouldn't even know where to begin.

Just as much money may be involved but spread out over 85 players softens impact. 100,000 to one recruit versus 10 seems a lot different. I’d guess basketball is way worse regardless. Shoe companies and other sponsorships way bigger in basketball. Shoe company A has much bigger impact on high school through professional in basketball than football.

 

[calvegas04]

hope this effects usc's football program too

 

[Irish#1]

Wait how the fuck do you get that job one year out with a marketing degree from Elmira College?

Exactly what I thought. Must have had some pics.

LoL...

Isn't Indiana an Adidas school?

Yes it is and Archie Miller just took the IU job. you think Sean Miller and he ever discussed this stuff? lol

 

[Irish#1]

Just got done reading the Louisville basketball forums, and some of them really have a disconnect of what's actually going on.

Many of them are saying how this should be the nail in the coffin of the NCAA (while apparently giving Louisville another slap on the wrist I guess). If I'm the NCAA, I'm having a freaking dance-party in the office right now. They have zero subpoena power. If people shut their mouths and refuse to meet with them, then they are up a creek.

But now? The Feds getting involved?

I'd be lying if I said I understand the scope of all this, but from my point of view, this seems like a win for the NCAA if they are going to continue to push amateurism.

Without subpoena their hands can get tied, but they can use the results of this to mete out punishment.

My understanding from a Div I mens assistant basketball coach is that basketball is much, much worse due to AAU.

Yeah, I've heard the same thing numerous times. HS coaches are sitting back smiling and saying, "Yep, we knew it was just a matter of time."

Brey bribing?

I'm more worried about that loose cannon getting arrested for streaking.

Is this how he's suddenly getting better players?

Today is National Compliance Day

Whole investigation is as much a FU to the NCAA as it is the guilty parties.

NCAA is a complete joke of an organization. How do you not know about an FBI sting in your organization for three years. Literally doing their job for them. Wait for it to come out that an NCAA official was part of the circle of money going around.

The NCAA is a joke, but I think you're wrong here. The Feds aren't going to share this with anyone outside of their organization, because it would certainly get leaked before anything happened. As I mentioned above, the NCAA can use the results of this to hand down punishment. The key here is will they do it and how hard?

 

[Irish#1]

or maybe its just so rampant and widespread that they wouldn't even know where to begin.

Just as much money may be involved but spread out over 85 players softens impact. 100,000 to one recruit versus 10 seems a lot different. I’d guess basketball is way worse regardless. Shoe companies and other sponsorships way bigger in basketball. Shoe company A has much bigger impact on high school through professional in basketball than football.

I have no idea how much of this goes on in football, but I have to believe it's relatively small. It's easy to get 5-10 kids together and go barn-storming around the country playing in AAU tournaments. Gyms are all over the place and easy to rent. Too hard to round up 22+ players, provide equipment, get 5-10 coaches, find a field to play on and get transportation. The logistics kill it almost from the beginning.

 

[BobbyMac]

I have no idea how much of this goes on in football, but I have to believe it's relatively small. It's easy to get 5-10 kids together and go barn-storming around the country playing in AAU tournaments. Gyms are all over the place and easy to rent. Too hard to round up 22+ players, provide equipment, get 5-10 coaches, find a field to play on and get transportation. The logistics kill it almost from the beginning.

The Sonny Vacarro model of shoe co. driven leagues/camps has already started. It's called 7v7. Guys like Darnay Holmes dad at Pro Way are sponsored by one of the big two. I don't think UA sponsors any 7v7's.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Pat Forde is calling for Louisville to get the death penalty if allegations are true.

https://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa-needs-give-louisville-basketball-death-sentence-bombshell-allegations-prove-correct-181930063.html

 

[STLDomer]

Good thing Pitino wore his Yeezys on College Game Day. Looking back, doesn't seem unnecessarily cozy with Adidas at all...

 

[STLDomer]

The NCAA is a joke, but I think you're wrong here. The Feds aren't going to share this with anyone outside of their organization, because it would certainly get leaked before anything happened. As I mentioned above, the NCAA can use the results of this to hand down punishment. The key here is will they do it and how hard?

Agreed. I guess my issue with the NCAA here is little to with the FBI it is, they had to know what was going on with Adidas, the bribery etc. at least to some extent. At best they were clueless (still doesn’t look great), more likely to me they ignored it, at worst some were a part of it.