Coaches on the Hot Seat

[ACamp1900]

Racist.

know thyself

 

[NorthDakota]

Some of that is just genetic... let's be real, there are exceptions but our African American brothers and sisters tend to just age better than our Anglo ones....

Charles is well known to be a workout warrior. That can't hurt at all.

 

[stlnd01]

Yeah - but you still make that call if you are Swarbrick. Convince someone like that they are the missing cog to a title run ....

And you suggest, if he does well, he's the guy after Kelly, who's presumably not around all that much longer. I could see it. Didn't realize he was that old though.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Strong likely out at UT by the end of the season, per Pete Thamel.

No doubt UT will double its efforts to keep Houston out of the Big 12 so as to avoid giving Herman an incentive to stay. From what I've heard about Herman -how much he likes Texas, etc.- he would probably go to UT if given the choice between UT, USC, and LSU.

This is insane and Texas absolutely deserves everything they get. Strong had to turn the program upside down, 70% of their roster is freshmen and sophomores, he has a freshman QB, and they're 2-2. Does the defense need to improve? Sure, but the talk of firing him now is straight dumb.

 

[texbender]

This is insane and Texas absolutely deserves everything they get. Strong had to turn the program upside down, 70% of their roster is freshmen and sophomores, he has a freshman QB, and they're 2-2. Does the defense need to improve? Sure, but the talk of firing him now is straight dumb.

I don't know dude, down here the clock is running out on Strong. In many aspects he could've been axed last year, but had improbable wins vs OU and Baylor that saved his job. Right now UT is 5th or 6th best team in the state (Houston, TAMU, Baylor, TCU, TT....), and he still has OU, BU, TT, TCU to play. Lots of fans and boosters have seen enough, and if Hermann is ready to roll they'll throw the kitchen sink at him.
Also, don't see Strong at ND.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

I don't know dude, down here the clock is running out on Strong. In many aspects he could've been axed last year, but had improbable wins vs OU and Baylor that saved his job. Right now UT is 5th or 6th best team in the state (Houston, TAMU, Baylor, TCU, TT....), and he still has OU, BU, TT, TCU to play. Lots of fans and boosters have seen enough, and if Hermann is ready to roll they'll throw the kitchen sink at him.
Also, don't see Strong at ND.

I don't see Strong at ND either. When I said Texas deserves what it gets, I mainly meant the dozens of boosters with big wallets who are so arrogant that they want to be involved with coaching decisions. Chances are the majority of whom have never touched a football, let alone played or coached football.

 

[BeauBenken]

This is insane and Texas absolutely deserves everything they get. Strong had to turn the program upside down, 70% of their roster is freshmen and sophomores, he has a freshman QB, and they're 2-2. Does the defense need to improve? Sure, but the talk of firing him now is straight dumb.

It's all about getting Herman -- who thanks to Strong's recruiting will probably do very well, and unfortunately for Strong, he'll go down as having the worst record ever in Texas football history.

 

[kmoose]

Easy there homie. All I'm saying is the guy has been a very good coach with average talent at Houston. He could be a great coach with more resources.

Like Dan Hawkins when he left Boise St? Or Brian Kelly when he left Cincinnati?

Seriously, though........ it will probably happen. Urban Meyer and Jim Tressel both did it with outstanding success. What do they have in common with Tom Herman? All coaches born in the great state of Ohio.

 

[connor_in]

It's all about getting Herman -- who thanks to Strong's recruiting will probably do very well, and unfortunately for Strong, he'll go down as having the worst record ever in Texas football history.

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[Domina Nostra]

It's all about getting Herman -- who thanks to Strong's recruiting will probably do very well, and unfortunately for Strong, he'll go down as having the worst record ever in Texas football history.

Careful. That's our next DC.

I agree that Herman is Texas bound.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Careful. That's our next DC.

I agree that Herman is Texas bound.

Rumors say Herman wants Texas. Questions:

1) Can Strong do enough this season to save his job?

2) If Texas fires Strong, who else (USC, LSU, etc) will be in the Herman sweepstakes?

 

[Irish Insanity]

Rumors say Herman wants Texas. Questions:

1) Can Strong do enough this season to save his job?

2) If Texas fires Strong, who else (USC, LSU, etc) will be in the Herman sweepstakes?

If Herman wants Texas it's his no matter How strong finishes.

 

[BeauBenken]

Careful. That's our next DC.

I agree that Herman is Texas bound.

I don't think he is, but if you want Strong to be our next DC, you better sell the hell out of the idea that he can't HC at a big time program because he wasn't even as good as Mack was at his worst, otherwise, Strong will be a HC at a mid-major this time next year.

 

[BobbyMac]

I don't think he is, but if you want Strong to be our next DC, you better sell the hell out of the idea that he can't HC at a big time program because he wasn't even as good as Mack was at his worst, otherwise, Strong will be a HC at a mid-major this time next year.

Strong will get better than a mid-major job. (What is the definition of mid-major in football being it's a basketball term)

He did great at Louisville, he's part of Holtz/Meyer and Spurrier coaching trees, he's black. He'd get a good job, he might have to broadcast for a year or fill in at the right school as DC for a year.

I could see Schiano taking another HC job and Strong going to Columbus for a year if he doesn't like what's available this year... or a scenario like that at a Top program.

He could go to the NFL.

No doubt he'll get another good job if he wants it.

 

[stlnd01]

Strong will get better than a mid-major job. (What is the definition of mid-major in football being it's a basketball term)

He did great at Louisville, he's part of Holtz/Meyer and Spurrier coaching trees, he's black. He'd get a good job, he might have to broadcast for a year or fill in at the right school as DC for a year.

I could see Schiano taking another HC job and Strong going to Columbus for a year if he doesn't like what's available this year... or a scenario like that at a Top program.

He could go to the NFL.

No doubt he'll get another good job if he wants it.

He'd get a P5 job, but a second or third-tier P5 job. Something like Ga Tech or Iowa if he's lucky, Kansas or Indiana if he's not (just talking comps here, no clue what'll be open). Or he could be DC at an elite program like Notre Dame or OSU, with a strong resume and inside track to be the next HC if things go well. I don't think it's a slam dunk you take the head job in that situation.

 

[ACamp1900]

I'd love for him to take over Kansas... My Jayhawks need a young priest and an old priest... that Orange Bowl win seems light years in the past right now...

 

[RDU Irish]

To the dispassionate outside observer - Texas isn't giving him enough time to get the job done right. Whoever steps in after him will inherit a better program than Strong took over. ADs will see that and give him consideration - but I am not sure power programs would take the leap.

So, better to DC for the Irish or similar top name program for a few years or jump down to a lower tier program as head coach? If you want to win, and win right - I could see the siren's song of Our Lady pulling him in.

Not saying it is likely but not impossible either.

 

[BobbyMac]

Bottom line, Charlie can do what he wants and pick a job he can retire at. He's made $35Mish since 2010. He ain't hurting.

There are certainly worse things than taking over an Indiana or Indiana type job where you are in a great college town. A UCF or USF job might appeal to him for the weather.

Or better yet, he and Scottie Pippen can take over the football and basketball programs at Central Arkansas and take the school to the promised land.

 

[texbender]

I don't see Strong at ND either. When I said Texas deserves what it gets, I mainly meant the dozens of boosters with big wallets who are so arrogant that they want to be involved with coaching decisions. Chances are the majority of whom have never touched a football, let alone played or coached football.

Red McCombs is one of the more vocal well healed boosters, ex owner of Vikings and I also think the San Antonio Gunslingers(WFL?). He wasn't a big fan of Strong being hired, wanted Saban and let everyone know about it. Has openly stated that "you can fire a coach midseason". Really believe Strong is on the way out, no matter what.

 

[NDRock]

Still my all time favorite.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Still my all time favorite.

Oh wow, how have I never seen this?

 

[Domina Nostra]

Strong would be awesome. He's a great DC, he'd got Lou Holtz experience at ND, he's a disciplinarian that his athletes love, and he beat Kelly so the egos would be properly in check.

I could really see it happen if he gets fired before the season ended and ND could swoop in and promise him a 1 year soft landing.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Many think the Herman sweepstakes will end if Texas loses to OU. As far as LSU... it appears that Jimbo is still the first choice for the big money donors with Briles also in the hunt... if he clears the NCAA. Some interesting names being thrown around as darkhorse candidates. Mike Gundy, Jeff Brohm, and DJ Durkin. Can't see any of those three being realistic however.

 

[Irish#1]

Red McCombs is one of the more vocal well healed boosters, ex owner of Vikings and I also think the San Antonio Gunslingers(WFL?). He wasn't a big fan of Strong being hired, wanted Saban and let everyone know about it. Has openly stated that "you can fire a coach midseason". Really believe Strong is on the way out, no matter what.

This is where Charlie failed miserably. He comes from Louisville with no real football history where basketball will always be first. He can say and do pretty much what he wanted because everyone wanted UoL football to become something. So he gets away with saying and doing pretty much what he wanted.

He goes to a storied program and tries the same tactics only to piss off pretty much anyone associated with football including a very powerful booster base which he didn't have to contend with at UoL. If he would have stepped into the Longhorns job without making waves, he probably wouldn't be in as much hot water as he currently is.

 

[irishog77]

Many think the Herman sweepstakes will end if Texas loses to OU. As far as LSU... it appears that Jimbo is still the first choice for the big money donors with Briles also in the hunt... if he clears the NCAA. Some interesting names being thrown around as darkhorse candidates. Mike Gundy, Jeff Brohm, and DJ Durkin. Can't see any of those three being realistic however.

Still not seeing Jimbo as a viable candidate there since he said no last year.

Not sure why any of Gundy, Brohm, and Durkin aren't realistic. I think all three of those, given their current job status, would be extremely realistic. Gundy would probably be the least, given that he is at his alma mater, but still pretty attainable. Now if you're talking lsu wouldn't want to actually hire those 3 as their next HC, then yeah, that may not be realistic.