Coaches Hot Seat '17 CFB

[ACamp1900]

This feels SO MUCH like the Saban to Bama stuff...

 

[Dizzyphil]

This feels SO MUCH like the Saban to Bama stuff...

You have no idea how I was thinking the same thing.

 

[dwshade]

Gruden will not be coaching at any college.

 

[tussin]

Would Gruden even be a good college coach? Seems like giving him huge money is a pretty big risk IMO.

 

[ACamp1900]

Gruden will not be coaching at any college.

Never say never I guess (referring to this UT thing specifically) but I've always felt he would take the ND job if it fell open at the right time. I have long felt that'd be the only cfb job he'd take at this point, but stranger things have happened.

 

[Dizzyphil]

Gruden will not be coaching at any college.

Never say never I guess (referring to this UT thing specifically) but I've always felt he would take the ND job if it feel open at the right time. I have long felt that'd be the only cfb job he'd take at this point, but stranger things have happened.

^this^

Saban: 'I'm not going to be the Alabama coach'

 

[Dizzyphil]

LOLOL - someone hacked Jon Gruden's wikipedia page. Read the second line.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Gruden

 

[Bishop2b5]

This feels SO MUCH like the Saban to Bama stuff...

In some ways it does, but UT is NOT UA and few realized just how miserable Saban was in the NFL (and just as importantly, how unhappy his wife was in Miami), plus Bama was willing to sign a blank check for Saban. UT fans really cannot grasp that they aren't one of the top 3 jobs in the country. You have no idea just how convinced they are that UT is an elite program that EVERYBODY wants to come to.

 

[ACamp1900]

In some ways it does, but UT is NOT UA and few realized just how miserable Saban was in the NFL (and just as importantly, how unhappy his wife was in Miami), plus Bama was willing to sign a blank check for Saban. UT fans really cannot grasp that they aren't one of the top 3 jobs in the country. You have no idea just how convinced they are that UT is an elite program that EVERYBODY wants to come to.

Alot of this was said about Bama with the Saban thing at the time too tho... key factor was Saban being miserable...

 

[Bishop2b5]

Alot of this was said about Bama with the Saban thing at the time too tho... key factor was Saban being miserable...

That's true. Hard to remember just what a dumpster fire Bama was by 2006, how toxic the atmosphere was, and how little any good coach wanted to walk into that situation. OTOH, there's a difference in a dumpster fire/bad situation at a Bama, ND, USC, OSU or Texas, and in one at a UT, Auburn, UCLA, OKST, or Michigan State. Those first five are always going to rise back to the top sooner or later as soon as they get the right guy (and there will always be the money & willingness to eventually find the right guy). The others have a ceiling.

 

[irishog77]

I hope tennessee pays Gruden 10+ million a year, for 7 or 8 years, then he sucks. I'd love to see who they want in 2 or 3 years into the regime, when they realize they literally broke the bank for a coach that will be 55 by next season, hasn't coached a football game in 10 years, has been away from the college game since 1991, barely ever coached in college in any fashion, has one of the cushiest jobs on the planet, probably already makes 10+ million in salary and endorsements, and doesn't have to recruit and babysit 17 and 18 year olds all year long.

The Malzahn to arkansas rumors had a little bite. There were serious rumblings that if auburn lost to georgia and alabama, auburn would move on. The university of arkansas job was a natural fit. He didn't just happen to coach at arkansas. He grew up there, went to college in arkansas, spent 15 years as a HS coach there, worked at the university, and turned down much better head jobs to take the head gig at lowly Arkansas State already. Him becoming the next coach of the razorbacks wasn't far fetched. But...he beat georgia and if he upsets alabama, will be given a raise and extension at auburn.

 

[Dizzyphil]

That's true. Hard to remember just what a dumpster fire Bama was by 2006, how toxic the atmosphere was, and how little any good coach wanted to walk into that situation. OTOH, there's a difference in a dumpster fire/bad situation at a Bama, ND, USC, OSU or Texas, and in one at a UT, Auburn, UCLA, OKST, or Michigan State. Those first five are always going to rise back to the top sooner or later as soon as they get the right guy (and there will always be the money & willingness to eventually find the right guy). The others have a ceiling.

Funny that the dumpster fire fixed by Dantonio at Sparty was caused by Saban.......
Saban never won a bowl game at Michigan State, losing three bowls by a combined 85 points

 

[irishog77]

That's true. Hard to remember just what a dumpster fire Bama was by 2006, how toxic the atmosphere was, and how little any good coach wanted to walk into that situation. OTOH, there's a difference in a dumpster fire/bad situation at a Bama, ND, USC, OSU or Texas, and in one at a UT, Auburn, UCLA, OKST, or Michigan State. Those first five are always going to rise back to the top sooner or later as soon as they get the right guy (and there will always be the money & willingness to eventually find the right guy). The others have a ceiling.

This. The "dumpster fire' thing is blown way out of proportion by lazy media member guys like colin cowherd. 99% of coaches would drool at the mouth to take those first jobs, regardless of what is or what has been going on at the program recently. Schools like the 2nd set? Nope. Coaches would be much more discerning in their decision.

 

[Irishize]

I hope tennessee pays Gruden 10+ million a year, for 7 or 8 years, then he sucks. I'd love to see who they want in 2 or 3 years into the regime, when they realize they literally broke the bank for a coach that will be 55 by next season, hasn't coached a football game in 10 years, has been away from the college game since 1991, barely ever coached in college in any fashion, has one of the cushiest jobs on the planet, probably already makes 10+ million in salary and endorsements, and doesn't have to recruit and babysit 17 and 18 year olds all year long.

The Malzahn to arkansas rumors had a little bite. There were serious rumblings that if auburn lost to georgia and alabama, auburn would move on. The university of arkansas job was a natural fit. He didn't just happen to coach at arkansas. He grew up there, went to college in arkansas, spent 15 years as a HS coach there, worked at the university, and turned down much better head jobs to take the head gig at lowly Arkansas State already. Him becoming the next coach of the razorbacks wasn't far fetched. But...he beat georgia and if he upsets alabama, will be given a raise and extension at auburn.

Agreed on Malzahn. The only caveat is that Jay Jacobs has “stepped down” as AD so whoever is named the new AD may want their own guy eventually & Gus could just cut bait and leave on a high note if he thought the new AD wouldn’t appeal to him. Otherwise, he’s earned some security thus far.

 

[drayer54]

The Malzahn to arkansas rumors had a little bite. There were serious rumblings that if auburn lost to georgia and alabama, auburn would move on. The university of arkansas job was a natural fit. He didn't just happen to coach at arkansas. He grew up there, went to college in arkansas, spent 15 years as a HS coach there, worked at the university, and turned down much better head jobs to take the head gig at lowly Arkansas State already. Him becoming the next coach of the razorbacks wasn't far fetched. But...he beat georgia and if he upsets alabama, will be given a raise and extension at auburn.

Auburn would be totally nuts to get rid of him. He's probably top 3 coaches in the conference and done fine at Auburn.

Your case is sound. I'd love to see him flip the bird at Auburn.

 

[dwshade]

^this^

Saban: 'I'm not going to be the Alabama coach'

This is a completely different situation. Saban was coaching at the time and had a history of being a HC in college. He was never going to be a TV guy. Gruden is pro football through and through. Word is the only job he'd truly consider is the Bucs job since he lives in Tampa. Apparently unhappy current Bucs fans were chanting Gruden's name. He remains popular there. There's a better chance of me taking the UT job than Gruden and I'm pretty sure I'm turning it down if offered.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Auburn would be totally nuts to get rid of him. He's probably top 3 coaches in the conference and done fine at Auburn.

Your case is sound. I'd love to see him flip the bird at Auburn.

A coach told me Saturday before the Auburn/Ga game that he thinks Gus does go back home to Arky when the job comes up, no matter the outcome of this season. I don't know how he would know this but I do know he speaks with Gus on a regular basis. I guess we will see.

 

[Irishize]

A coach told me Saturday before the Auburn/Ga game that he thinks Gus does go back home to Arky when the job comes up, no matter the outcome of this season. I don't know how he would know this but I do know he speaks with Gus on a regular basis. I guess we will see.

Hog fans would be ecstatic. While Gus is easily a better HC than Houston Nutt, he would bring similar drama/politics with him to Fayette Nam. Not so much brought on by Gus but the Gus Factions vs the Anti-Gus factions on the BoT

 

[irishog77]

Hog fans would be ecstatic. While Gus is easily a better HC than Houston Nutt, he would bring similar drama/politics with him to Fayette Nam. Not so much brought on by Gus but the Gus Factions vs the Anti-Gus factions on the BoT

Who in Arkansas doesn't like Gus?

 

[Cackalacky]

Who in Arkansas doesn't like Gus?

Mitch Mustain's fam. Springfield HS?

IDK. Lol

 

[drayer54]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...d-pursue-jimbo-fisher-kevin-sumlin/862150001/

Jimbo has been on the swag copter and has an agent in College Station. I swear. - TexAgs

 

[stlnd01]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...d-pursue-jimbo-fisher-kevin-sumlin/862150001/

Jimbo has been on the swag copter and has an agent in College Station. I swear. - TexAgs

IDK. "Facilities" is a pretty weak argument for why Jimbo Fisher would ever leave FSU for Texas A&M.

 

[drayer54]

IDK. "Facilities" is a pretty weak argument for why Jimbo Fisher would ever leave FSU for Texas A&M.

Only way he hops is if something sucks at fsu that we don't know.

 

[ickythump1225]

Why would you leave FSU for aTm? Currently Jimbo only really has to worry about Clemson in his division and if they beat them they are going to the ACC title game and the other division is pretty weak. 12-1 is going to get you into the playoffs.

If he goes to College Station he has to play Alabama, Auburn, and LSU every single year. Why put yourself in a division with Saban?

 

[snoopdog]

Why would you leave FSU for aTm? Currently Jimbo only really has to worry about Clemson in his division and if they beat them they are going to the ACC title game and the other division is pretty weak. 12-1 is going to get you into the playoffs.

If he goes to College Station he has to play Alabama, Auburn, and LSU every single year. Why put yourself in a division with Saban?

Agree. Jimbo would only go for the $$$$$

 

[stlnd01]

Agree. Jimbo would only go for the $$$$$

You think Florida State can't/won't pay just as much as A&M? Probably more. The only reason he'd leave is if something has gone sideways with the administration. His comments hinted, a little bit, maybe, at that.
But in those scenarios the grass usually only seems greener.

 

[NDohio]

So with Long gone at Arky, does Bret survive? I say no. And I think Arky makes a push for Gus. And what if A&M moves on Sumlin? Word is Jimbo is their guy if so. Then potentially having the Auburn job open. Geez.

Also saw where OBC said that Chip is not the coach Florida is pursuing. He said the coach is currently active and coaching at another school. Guess that would be Mullen. Don't know if OBC has inside info at Fla anymore, but it is interesting comments to say the least.

I am gonna guess Scott Frost.

 

[NDohio]

Why would you leave FSU for aTm? Currently Jimbo only really has to worry about Clemson in his division and if they beat them they are going to the ACC title game and the other division is pretty weak. 12-1 is going to get you into the playoffs.

If he goes to College Station he has to play Alabama, Auburn, and LSU every single year. Why put yourself in a division with Saban?

Isn't there also something with his divorce and the shared custody of his son? I believe I remember there being a part of that agreement about him not being able to leave Florida.

 

[zelezo vlk]

How many successful years does Charlie Strong need before he's considered for another good P5 job?

 

[Irishize]

Don’t forget about Petrino. Now that Jurich is gone, his buyout is cut in half so he’s basically a free man. I suspect a number of the SEC schools wouldn’t hesitate to hire him.