Brian Kelly to LSU, per report

[SoIll]

Yeah I miss the little bitch. Cant even hide it anymore.

 

[arahop]

The administration definitely needs to be more lenient with undergrad transfers.

What do people think of this solution? If an undergrad transfer had a offer from ND, Stanford, NW, Vandy, Duke, WF, UVA, UNC, or Cal out of HS then they should be able to transfer to ND.

Just come up with a football player friendly major. Use Holy Cross again, add a sports management major, Elementary, And Secondary education Major. Not sure why that is above ND, mission being higher learning and all

 

[Free Manera]

Kelly winning big at LSU is actually good for ND. Proves that it is in fact the board/administration’s fault.

 

[stlnd01]

Arts and Letters is what 90 percent of the football team majored in in the Holtz and pre Holtz days. What happened to that?

It's still there. A fair number of players today major in Film Television and Theater, which does not seem especially taxing. But you still have to actually go to class and stuff.
When comparing Notre Dame with (many) schools where you can do online classes and major in phys ed or something, it's more playing school than a lot of these elite players want to bother with, it seems.

 

[Old Man Mike]

I couldn't care less what others on IE might think, but I really enjoyed watching LSU takeover the game vs Kiffen and Ole Miss. Our old coach is showing (to what should be no one's surprise) that he's still one helluva coach, and is getting those guys at LSU behind his program. If Polian had done his ##$%^&^%$ job the first two games, LSU might be undefeated. Alabama is coming and he might be a year away, but I'll bet LSU gives them a game.

What should be more controversial (as I'm intuitively winging this) is the following opinion. LSU players not only looked significantly more athletic than NDs but also ripping around all over the field with raging intensity. Where is that with MY team? Kelly as we know could be a hardass. He was a coach, not a friend. Coach Freeman is deeply liked as a "player's coach." I'm not sure that I've ever seen that work. None of NDs championship coaches shied away from climbing someone's frame. (I was also a fan of Bob Knight.)

I think it's time to stop being so damm nice. There are times for "The Purple Face." ... and I have no idea whether Coach Freeman is capable of changing his wonderful personality to being, say, Nick Saban, ... or Brian Kelly ... on the practice field (because this team rarely looks ready to rumble to me except for "mean ol' Harry's" OLine. )

... if that creates raging intensity here on IE, then my job here is done.

 

[Irishdrunk]

The way Notre Dame fans used to get upset a Brian Kelly for getting upset at the players yet he would have 10 win seasons are we feeling better now that we have a very nice nice coach who won’t yell at the players but will be lucky to win seven or eight games?

 

[arahop]

ND.

It's still there. A fair number of players today major in Film Television and Theater, which does not seem especially taxing. But you still have to actually go to class and stuff.
When comparing Notre Dame with (many) schools where you can do online classes and major in phys ed or something, it's more playing school than a lot of these elite players want to bother with, it seems.

I'm of the opinion that we need to ease up wherever we have to. Otherwise it will never change, I know a lot of alumni and fans won't agree,. It's just getting to point where we eventually become Harvard And Yale of the early 1900s. ND has to figure it out, It's not coaching in BKs case, it's not recruiting in Freeman's case,. I truly believe that Saban wouldn't win a Title here

 

[irishff1014]

If we took A transfer QB we’d be in an even better spot than them. BK wasn’t worried ab his back up QBs feelings unlike Rees.

Rees is a clueless fool and The head coach is scared to make him mad.

 

[arahop]

Kelly winning big at LSU is actually good for ND. Proves that it is in fact the board/administration’s fault.

No doubt.. I've always believed the only thing between ND Football and a return to dominance, has been our own University, eventually they will reach the end of the rope like some of our fans have years ago

 

[arahop]

It's still there. A fair number of players today major in Film Television and Theater, which does not seem especially taxing. But you still have to actually go to class and stuff.
When comparing Notre Dame with (many) schools where you can do online classes and major in phys ed or something, it's more playing school than a lot of these elite players want to bother with, it seems.

I just don't see how 85 scholarship players will degrade the prestige of the University whatsoever. It's literally around 0.0085 percent of the student population

 

[Sea Turtle]

I think Notre Dame just breeds softness, tameness, Ivy League mentality and a sense of football just not being important. This comes from the top down. Heck, even the fans are tame.

Thats why there isn't any raging intensity with our players. No sense of urgency. No swagger or attitude.

 

[Irishdrunk]

It’s not without the realm of possibilities that LSU‘s recruiting class Might be better than Freeman’s class. LSU is going to lockdown Louisiana now and I can’t imagine we won’t have a few deep commitments from this class. I won’t be surprised if Jaden Asberry flips from Notre Dame to LSU

 

[BeatSC]

I couldn't care less what others on IE might think, but I really enjoyed watching LSU takeover the game vs Kiffen and Ole Miss. Our old coach is showing (to what should be no one's surprise) that he's still one helluva coach, and is getting those guys at LSU behind his program. If Polian had done his ##$%^&^%$ job the first two games, LSU might be undefeated. Alabama is coming and he might be a year away, but I'll bet LSU gives them a game.

What should be more controversial (as I'm intuitively winging this) is the following opinion. LSU players not only looked significantly more athletic than NDs but also ripping around all over the field with raging intensity. Where is that with MY team? Kelly as we know could be a hardass. He was a coach, not a friend. Coach Freeman is deeply liked as a "player's coach." I'm not sure that I've ever seen that work. None of NDs championship coaches shied away from climbing someone's frame. (I was also a fan of Bob Knight.)

I think it's time to stop being so damm nice. There are times for "The Purple Face." ... and I have no idea whether Coach Freeman is capable of changing his wonderful personality to being, say, Nick Saban, ... or Brian Kelly ... on the practice field (because this team rarely looks ready to rumble to me except for "mean ol' Harry's" OLine. )

... if that creates raging intensity here on IE, then my job here is done.

Any real football fan is fine with a coach reading his team or a player the riot act. Tommy’s best moment this year and maybe his whole career was ripping a new one to Pyne for being completely inept. Pyne will be the end of him. If he had a good QB we would all be relatively happy right now at
6-1 we’d still complain but not like this. I would love nothing more than to say I/we were wrong about Marcus and even Tommy but I sense failure at this level for both of them. Marcus is all style and personality which is nice but nice does not win football games.

 

[IrishTusker]

It’s not without the realm of possibilities that LSU‘s recruiting class Might be better than Freeman’s class. LSU is going to lockdown Louisiana now and I can’t imagine we won’t have a few deep commitments from this class. I won’t be surprised if Jaden Asberry flips from Notre Dame to LSU

Ok. Players generally stay close to home. We can't move ND somewhere else.

 

[irishrb]

The fact that BK's thread keeps popping up top at this point and time of the year, pretty much sums up the year....pisspoor...

 

[stlnd01]

It’s not without the realm of possibilities that LSU‘s recruiting class Might be better than Freeman’s class. LSU is going to lockdown Louisiana now and I can’t imagine we won’t have a few deep commitments from this class. I won’t be surprised if Jaden Asberry flips from Notre Dame to LSU

I think before Love committed we were one spot ahead of them on 247 (currently we're #3 and they're #7). If we lose, say, Bowen, we'd be neck and neck again. But LSU has some built-in advantages we don't, and we don't play LSU any time soon, so I don't really care too much about their class.

All that said I think if Ausberry were going to LSU he'd have just committed there in the first place. There are reasons he isn't.

 

[Ray “The Mule” Finkle]

I couldn't care less what others on IE might think, but I really enjoyed watching LSU takeover the game vs Kiffen and Ole Miss. Our old coach is showing (to what should be no one's surprise) that he's still one helluva coach, and is getting those guys at LSU behind his program. If Polian had done his ##$%^&^%$ job the first two games, LSU might be undefeated. Alabama is coming and he might be a year away, but I'll bet LSU gives them a game.

What should be more controversial (as I'm intuitively winging this) is the following opinion. LSU players not only looked significantly more athletic than NDs but also ripping around all over the field with raging intensity. Where is that with MY team? Kelly as we know could be a hardass. He was a coach, not a friend. Coach Freeman is deeply liked as a "player's coach." I'm not sure that I've ever seen that work. None of NDs championship coaches shied away from climbing someone's frame. (I was also a fan of Bob Knight.)

I think it's time to stop being so damm nice. There are times for "The Purple Face." ... and I have no idea whether Coach Freeman is capable of changing his wonderful personality to being, say, Nick Saban, ... or Brian Kelly ... on the practice field (because this team rarely looks ready to rumble to me except for "mean ol' Harry's" OLine. )

... if that creates raging intensity here on IE, then my job here is done.

 

[Irishdrunk]

Ok. Players generally stay close to home. We can't move ND somewhere else.

Yep and precisely one of the many reasons Kelly rightfully left ND for LSU….

 

[Ndaccountant]

The way Notre Dame fans used to get upset a Brian Kelly for getting upset at the players yet he would have 10 win seasons are we feeling better now that we have a very nice nice coach who won’t yell at the players but will be lucky to win seven or eight games?

Talk to me when Kelly wins a playoff game. Ole Miss is akin to NC State of 2017. It's great and makes you feel good at the moment. But then there comes the reminder that BK is nothing more that a really good coach. I don't want really good. I want exceptional. I am willing to roll the dice to ge there. BK has his ceiling. His short and pudgy statute will never get him thru it.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Sizzling hot take:

BK inherited a roster far more talented than MF did

BK was 4-5 at one point his first season with losses to Navy and Tulsa, which is worse than the current stretch.

BK is an unlikable asshole that was more tolerated by the fanbase than embraced.

Fight me


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[Irishdrunk]

Talk to me when Kelly wins a playoff game. Ole Miss is akin to NC State of 2017. It's great and makes you feel good at the moment. But then there comes the reminder that BK is nothing more that a really good coach. I don't want really good. I want exceptional. I am willing to roll the dice to ge there. BK has his ceiling. His short and pudgy statute will never get him thru it.

Well ND certainly rolled the dice w Freeman. You are a typical ND fan that thinks ND has a right to Nattys yet the program support and facilities are not elite. The program won’t do NIL upfront and still has academic limitations including on Transfers. Yet Kelly wasn’t good enough. Ok well you roll the dice and we are now not ranked and it’s now a big ducking mess.

I like any Coach that can get us Top 5 and a chance at CFP. Freeman shit the bed this year as a Noob. I like proven winners - but hey that is just me.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Sizzling hot take:

BK inherited a roster far more talented than MF did

BK was 4-5 at one point his first season with losses to Navy and Tulsa, which is worse than the current stretch.

BK is an unlikable asshole that was more tolerated by the fanbase than embraced.

Fight me


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[arrowryan]

Sizzling hot take:

BK inherited a roster far more talented than MF did

BK was 4-5 at one point his first season with losses to Navy and Tulsa, which is worse than the current stretch.

BK is an unlikable asshole that was more tolerated by the fanbase than embraced.

Fight me


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BK also sucked at ND when his coordinators were bad. Well, Freeman has one shitty coordinator and I’m starting to think the other one might not be good either.

The fans need to give him a calendar year to do gather his footing. Hire an OC and get a QB and this team could explode in 2023.

 

[Irishdrunk]

Sizzling hot take:

BK inherited a roster far more talented than MF did

BK was 4-5 at one point his first season with losses to Navy and Tulsa, which is worse than the current stretch.

BK is an unlikable asshole that was more tolerated by the fanbase than embraced.

Fight me


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Huh???? LSU fan base just stormed the field. I think they are much happier w him than we are with Nice Guy Marcus.

 

[IrishTusker]

Huh???? LSU fan base just stormed the field. I think they are much happier w him than we are with Nice Guy Marcus.

Wow we're storming the field for beating the #7 team? Yikes lol

 

[Ndaccountant]

Well ND certainly rolled the dice w Freeman. You are a typical ND fan that thinks ND has a right to Nattys yet the program support and facilities are not elite. The program won’t do NIL upfront and still has academic limitations including on Transfers. Yet Kelly wasn’t good enough. Ok well you roll the dice and we are now not ranked and it’s now a big ducking mess.

I like any Coach that can get us Top 5 and a chance at CFP. Freeman shit the bed this year as a Noob. I like proven winners - but hey that is just me.

I'll take the upside of Freeman any day compared to Kelly and his ego. Neither LSU nor ND was going to win a title this year. I will certainly allow Freeman to get some experience as he continues to upgrade the roster. I will also always default to someone who not only appreciates, but embraces what ND stands for. Kelly say those things as a annoyance. Freeman sees them as an asset. I will always give the latter the benefit of doubt.

 

[Irishdrunk]

Wow we're storming the field for beating the #7 team? Yikes lol

Trust me if Freeman ever does this the ND fans storm they field too. Unfortanetly that won’t be happening due to the kaka coaching

 

[ND88]

I think Notre Dame just breeds softness, tameness, Ivy League mentality and a sense of football just not being important. This comes from the top down. Heck, even the fans are tame.

Thats why there isn't any raging intensity with our players. No sense of urgency. No swagger or attitude.

Yes and No. There are several points I disagree with. First of all, Notre Dame is not like any other team in the top 10, just based on enrollment numbers alone. It’s a small as fuck school in a podunk town which is already an uphill battle when you want to compare crowd intensity. Most of these top 10 schools are taking nearly every turd in the state who applies and are rolling with huge student fanbases. The only reason ND is still relevant today in terms of lore is because there are a bunch of highly aggressive nerds who have figured out how to market the school like they’re running Wall Street. Notre Dame doesn’t fuck around when it comes to profit, especially when you consider that we’re coming up short in terms of our physical size.

Second, ND lives on the glory of its past merits while still being very, very successful in mediocrity. There are a TON of top 25 and even top 10 teams currently that would love ND’s level of consistent high tier mediocrity. This is what Kelly bred for all you groupies wishing he hadn’t scorned you. I could give a shit that he is doing “well” by beating a Lane Kiffin team that perennially underperforms in big games. I mean, you want a bigger piece of shit, Kelly just beat the guy.

Thirdly, ND has/had some of the best fucking fans on the planet. Don’t start trashing the fans because admin enjoys fleecing the fandom by not upping its standards. What does Jack know about passionate football?

I’ve been to 40 plus games in my lifetime. And even though it’s an unhealthy fucking relationship, I’m screaming my ass off every time I’m there. And even though the overall presentation is amateur hour (which is a huge factor that needs to be addressed), I’m still screaming. Because yes, there are a BUNCH of fans that need to stay home and get off their asses. But at the end of the day, ND teams have to earn it. Many fans have seen enough bullshit over the years from ho-hum squads that we demand the team play well or we’re gonna boo your shit. The boos are an indictment of all the lame feel-good stories from the glory days and that falls on the coaches, the players, and the administration. If we were dealing with a team that doesn’t have all the bells and whistles, then we would be little Giant fans. But if the team is going to brag about destruction, and then comes out like a wet noodle, we have enough fans with two brain cells to know when shit stinks.

Lastly, Notre Dame has all the potential to be destructively loud and difficult to play in. Fire the media people. Shit can the announcer. Make the band a driving force again. Stop with the bullshit songs and cutesy gimmicks. End the academic commercials. Take all that shit out. Be vicious. Stop sanitizing victory.

PS. To anyone comparing Freeman to Faust, you need to upgrade your software. Stop talking about Faust, Devine, even Holtz. Those days are gone. Upgrade.

 

[Irishdrunk]

I'll take the upside of Freeman any day compared to Kelly and his ego. Neither LSU nor ND was going to win a title this year. I will certainly allow Freeman to get some experience as he continues to upgrade the roster. I will also always default to someone who not only appreciates, but embraces what ND stands for. Kelly say those things as a annoyance. Freeman sees them as an asset. I will always give the latter the benefit of doubt.

I love Kelly’s ego. You need a big ego to run a elite program.

You do know Players’ Coach never works, right?? Give me an example of a nice HC that has a Top program???

 

[Grahambo]

Wow we're storming the field for beating the #7 team? Yikes lol

Storming the field when they were actually favored by the sports books.