Brian Kelly to LSU, per report

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They would have because MF would have been running the D, not a line coach learning with just a few weeks to learn.


Yes, let's not throw the baby out with the bath water. Lot's of variables in play this year, including pretty much a new coaching staff. Even these guys need to learn to gel some and be in sync. It doesn't happen overnight. Freeman will get it figured out.

Wisconsins DC who took over seems to be doing just fine. Either you're a head coach or you're not.
 

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I liked Kelly when he was here but now I have that much more respect for him. I think his players liked him but not like they love Marcus Freeman. That tells me better they respect you than love you. Kelly lost very few games based on shitty coaching. He is proving at LSU that he can play and coach with the so called big boys! He will be 6-2 and should be 7-1 but for a shitty extra point. One bad loss that they have learned from. He looks like a genius of r it going overboard in his quest for Rees. We are 6-6 at best this year and an embarrassment across the board. Most of this is on the coaches and I’ll throw some shade Pynes was. What a twerp. Guy needs to do the right thing and bench himself.
 

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BK about to take down a top 10 team. Brian Kelly is lazy as shit at recruiting. But he doesn’t really have to be a big recruiter at LSU. We know he is a great HC. He is going to win a national title at LSU.
I'm surprised he stayed around to carry ND for as long as he did. He gave us most of his prime. We should be grateful.
 

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BK about to take down a top 10 team. Brian Kelly is lazy as shit at recruiting. But he doesn’t really have to be a big recruiter at LSU. We know he is a great HC. He is going to win a national title at LSU.
I think he got Lazy because he couldn't get them through admissions. When there is roughly 25 Five stars per class ,and 1-5 can get through admissions.....Limits the pool of elite football players.That's why we are where we are.
#EveryoneAgreesWithAdmissions.
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Seeing BK successful at LSU makes me want to vomit.
It shouldn’t surprise anybody! BK is a very good coach and the LSU program is a top five program in terms of facilities recent titles won and fan support. His move is a no-brainer

I’m waiting for a tweet from Bryon Driskell Confessing to his pathological hate for Kelly. And that clouded his judgment on both Kelly and Tommy Rees.

🤣🤣🤣
 

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If LSU hangs on here, BK will get a win against a top 10 Team. Had 2 such wins at ND. #FreeTheNDFootballProgram #NDcompetesAcademically#MonkMalloy
Are we talking about top 10 teams at the end of the season? That's the relevant metric. And the SEC teams are regularly ranked too highly anyway, so of course he would get more 'top 10' wins.
 

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They lost literally last week. To a team who had lost 4 straight by double digits lol.
Yep. He has an overtime loss and crushed northwestern and purdue. Not the disaster that Freeman has been.

You either have the chops or you don't. Freeman is all hat, and no cattle.
 

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Are we talking about top 10 teams at the end of the season? That's the relevant metric. And the SEC teams are regularly ranked too highly anyway, so of course he would get more 'top 10' wins.
Willis... I'm talking about time of playing them
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It shouldn’t surprise anybody! BK is a very good coach and the LSU program is a top five program in terms of facilities recent titles won and fan support. His move is a no-brainer

I’m waiting for a tweet from Bryon Driskell Confessing to his pathological hate for Kelly. And that clouded his judgment on both Kelly and Tommy Rees.

🤣🤣🤣
It’s the fact that now our program may be ruined and we were at least competitive under Kelly. All I care about is nd and while I didn’t love Kelly he was what kept us relevant for over 10 years. Now we on on the downward spiral to being nothing more than a mid major school with a tv deal & we allowed him to leave. At least if he sucked there we could say “ well he was on his way down” but that isn’t the case.
 

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It’s the fact that now our program may be ruined and we were at least competitive under Kelly. All I care about is nd and while I didn’t love Kelly he was what kept us relevant for over 10 years. Now we on on the downward spiral to being nothing more than a mid major school with a tv deal & we allowed him to leave. At least if he sucked there we could say “ well he was on his way down” but that isn’t the case.
So it is BOT and Admissions keeping down the Football Program. Shit.
 

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Again, people need to give Freeman the opportunity to bring in his own OC and a quality grad transfer QB. Tommy boy royally f*cked him with a shit QB room and Jack didn't allow him to hire his own OC. Hopefully he can snag a Hudson Card and Phil Longo, Warren Ruggiero, or Garrett Riley.
 

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I think he got Lazy because he couldn't get them through admissions. When there is roughly 25 Five stars per class ,and 1-5 can get through admissions.....Limits the pool of elite football players.That's why we are where we are.
#EveryoneAgreesWithAdmissions.
#MaintainStudentAthletes.
#ButNDwontLetEveryoneIn
#NDStillMaintains20-25AcademicRanking
#WinOneForTheFans
Side point, in this thread, but it's not about who can get through admissions any more - a lot more than 20 percent of five stars can get in to Notre Dame in this day and age - it's about the fact that A: We don't pay upfront NIL to recruits and B: We expect our student-athletes to be students and take real majors and a lot of these kids aren't interested in that, so they aren't interested in Notre Dame.
Long run, it's their loss, but yes it limits the pool of elite football players. BK decided to go to a school where that wasn't a problem.
 

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Again, people need to give Freeman the opportunity to bring in his own OC and a quality grad transfer QB. Tommy boy royally f*cked him with a shit QB room and Jack didn't allow him to hire his own OC. Hopefully he can snag a Hudson Card and Phil Longo, Warren Ruggiero, or Garrett Riley.
I'm willing to do that but will the BOT/Admissions/Upfront NIL at ND ever truly compete?
I don't think Nick Saban could turn this program into a National Title contender with ND in its own way.
Freeman would have signed 2 top 10 players at the 2 most important positions in the game. ND is always behind the times
 

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Side point, in this thread, but it's not about who can get through admissions any more - a lot more than 20 percent of five stars can get in to Notre Dame in this day and age - it's about the fact that A: We don't pay upfront NIL to recruits and B: We expect our student-athletes to be students and take real majors and a lot of these kids aren't interested in that, so they aren't interested in Notre Dame.
Long run, it's their loss, but yes it limits the pool of elite football players. BK decided to go to a school where that wasn't a problem.
And we will never Win until we adapt. Is what it is
 

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Side point, in this thread, but it's not about who can get through admissions any more - a lot more than 20 percent of five stars can get in to Notre Dame in this day and age - it's about the fact that A: We don't pay upfront NIL to recruits and B: We expect our student-athletes to be students and take real majors and a lot of these kids aren't interested in that, so they aren't interested in Notre Dame.
Long run, it's their loss, but yes it limits the pool of elite football players. BK decided to go to a school where that wasn't a problem.
Arts and Letters is what 90 percent of the football team majored in in the Holtz and pre Holtz days. What happened to that?
 

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I'm willing to do that but will the BOT/Admissions/Upfront NIL at ND ever truly compete?
I don't think Nick Saban could turn this program into a National Title contender with ND in its own way.
Freeman would have signed 2 top 10 players at the 2 most important positions in the game. ND is always behind the times
The administration definitely needs to be more lenient with undergrad transfers.

What do people think of this solution? If an undergrad transfer had a offer from ND, Stanford, NW, Vandy, Duke, WF, UVA, UNC, or Cal out of HS then they should be able to transfer to ND.
 
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