Brian Kelly Contract

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Well, I was really just using Kuharich as an outlier, the exception to the rule among ND coaches where he didn't retire or get fired, but when you put it that way...:laugh:
but yeah, they were calling for his head like I mentioned. If he didn't step down on his own accord, he would have been ousted.

It's been awhile since I've done the research, but if you throw out Kuharich, who was the last coach to leave ND that wasn't fired or retired/step down for health reasons?

Dan Devine kind of qualifies under that definition but it was basically a retirement as a football coach.
 
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Well, I was really just using Kuharich as an outlier, the exception to the rule among ND coaches where he didn't retire or get fired, but when you put it that way...:laugh:
but yeah, they were calling for his head like I mentioned. If he didn't step down on his own accord, he would have been ousted.

It's been awhile since I've done the research, but if you throw out Kuharich, who was the last coach to leave ND that wasn't fired or retired/step down for health reasons?

Knute Rockne.
 
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I think he would count as "stepped down for health reasons"

Too soon?

Without any intention of doing so at the end of his last season.

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T'would be like cheering for an Ivy League team. Go, rah, team!

See here, young man, theres nothing wrong with endorsing my Yale Bulldogs when they're displaying their footballing skills and prevailing against the unwashed masses! I'm referring to you, Michigan, and the rest of those inbred, Johnny-come-lately twits that populate the west. Perhaps one day if those ruffians can learn not to pick one's nose in public and wipe it on their sleeves we can enjoy a gentleman's game.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NotreDame&src=hash">#NotreDame</a> HC Brian Kelly: “There are no issues contractually. There’s no leverage play here.”</p>— Irish Illustrated (@NDatRivals) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDatRivals/statuses/363334154810691586">August 2, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Kelly and <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NotreDame&src=hash">#NotreDame</a> have agreed to something in principle but details need to be worked out.</p>— Dan Murphy (@BGI_DanMurphy) <a href="https://twitter.com/BGI_DanMurphy/statuses/363334283458379776">August 2, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>RT <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiTribHamilton">@ChiTribHamilton</a>: <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NotreDame&src=hash">#NotreDame</a> HC Brian Kelly on his new contract: "I think it's imminent."</p>— Observer Sports (@ObserverSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/ObserverSports/statuses/363334498785574914">August 2, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Kelly said new contract has been agreed to in principle. "I think it's imminent," he said.
 

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The fourth-year Notre Dame coach revealed as much Friday during his camp-opening news conference, saying he agreed to terms in December and that legal language is all that has gotten in the way of anything becoming official. ---Per ESPN
 

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Read into this whatever you like but 8 months haggling over "legal language" suggests there are a large number of unusual provisions in that contract.

Of course, this assumes that Kelly's explanation is straightforward, more or less.
 

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Read into this whatever you like but 8 months haggling over "legal language" suggests there are a large number of unusual provisions in that contract.

Of course, this assumes that Kelly's explanation is straightforward, more or less.

Knowing what we know now about BK's flirtation with the Eagles, I'm guessing the haggling over "legal language" was all in regards to his buyout provision and what happens should he decide to leave the University by his own choosing.

I buy it could take 8 months to resolve something like that if ND says "make it extremely tough for him to leave us without the University getting a huge chunk of money to throw at our new coach" while BK is instructing his attorneys to make leaving as painless to him and his pocketbook (or some NFL team's pocketbook) as possible.

I don't think there are that many unusual requests that could be made, such as "office refrigerator must be stocked with 3 packages of double-stuffed Oreos at all times". Its not like he is negotiating the rider for a Ted Nugent concert.
 

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When Jim Schwartz gets fired and there is zero chatter about it, then I will rest easy about us keeping BK. Until then, I'll be worried
 

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Brian Kelly on NFL: No meant No; I want to be at Notre Dame

Kelly talks about the Eagles thing. States that he is at ND to win National Championships (plural).

Awesome. Good to know.

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Saw this today and not sure if it has been posted. Some good quotes by Kelly. Particular note of interest:
If we're all in, we're all in," he said. "If we're at the big boy poker table and we're all in and we know we're going to have to play this kind of schedule, who are we fooling? We have to go in with our eyes wide open and recruit those areas and play those teams, and somebody's got to try to beat the SEC schools. My feeling was let's go attack this and build the program the right way and recruit in these areas."

To make it work, Kelly didn't hire a staff full of assistants with ties to SEC or ACC schools; in fact, most of his coaches, including recruiting coordinator Tony Alford, have Midwestern/Big Ten backgrounds. Instead, he employed a saturation strategy where all nine assistants recruit the state of Florida, for instance, and any targeted recruit from there will have the position coach, coordinator and head coach all involved in the process.
 

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It's a load of dung. I was in a class at ND where at least 10 students got in trouble for academic dishonesty. The ones who challenged it lost and got suspended, but the ones who came clean were given an "F" for the course and that was it. If anything, EG is being treated MORE strictly than the average student.
 

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It's a load of dung. I was in a class at ND where at least 10 students got in trouble for academic dishonesty. The ones who challenged it lost and got suspended, but the ones who came clean were given an "F" for the course and that was it. If anything, EG is being treated MORE strictly than the average student.

I agree. But it is a little odd that he's out for academic reasons...yet not taking classes and seeing a QB specialist while he's suspended.


The author makes a valid point in that regard.
 

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I agree. But it is a little odd that he's out for academic reasons...yet not taking classes and seeing a QB specialist while he's suspended.


The author makes a valid point in that regard.

But does the author know the entire story? No. Therefore an article shouldn't be posted as fact but rather opinion with acknowledged that he is unaware of the entire situation . It's a bogus article.
 

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I agree. But it is a little odd that he's out for academic reasons...yet not taking classes and seeing a QB specialist while he's suspended.


The author makes a valid point in that regard.

He's on track to graduate when his eligibility expires. So, he can do whatever he wants. Considering how much money there is to be made as an NFL QB, he'd be stupid not to take this time and get better for a job that would pay him an enormous amount of money in the short term. In the long term, if the NFL doesn't work out, he'll have his degree to fall back on.
 

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I agree. But it is a little odd that he's out for academic reasons...yet not taking classes and seeing a QB specialist while he's suspended.


The author makes a valid point in that regard.

His penalty is dismissal from school for a semester and loss of a year of eligibility. Not sure what taking classes at a community college would do. If he flunked out that is one thing but what would getting a B in speech class at Ivy Tech prove?
 

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I agree. But it is a little odd that he's out for academic reasons...yet not taking classes and seeing a QB specialist while he's suspended.


The author makes a valid point in that regard.

Why is that odd? He's been suspended. The whole purpose of that is that he's seperated from the student body and school.

As far as seeing a QB coach, it's his decision to do what he wants while he's away from school. The idea that he gets an "advantage" from this is bullsh*t because he already had the starting job at a top flight university, lost the ability to play on some big stages, and lost a full year of eligibility. That's NOT a net gain.
 

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I agree. But it is a little odd that he's out for academic reasons...yet not taking classes and seeing a QB specialist while he's suspended.

The author makes a valid point in that regard.

With summer school and early enrollment (did he enroll early?) he's likely *ahead* of where the average student would be in terms of progress towards graduation. Missing a semester will just put him "on track" with the rest of his class, especially if he uses all years of eligibility.
 

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I agree. But it is a little odd that he's out for academic reasons...yet not taking classes and seeing a QB specialist while he's suspended.


The author makes a valid point in that regard.

Pat, how many other starting QBs would have been suspended for a year for what Golson did? I'd be surprised if anyone in the Top 25, besides maybe Stanford, would have done the same. I'm surprised a bit that this author is a Notre Dame alum, the article seemed somewhat biased. Academically Golson doesn't gain much by going to a junior college for a semester. He could skate by, take some easy classes, and probably ends up boosting his GPA as a result. It's probably unlikely he would get the same academic challenge that Notre Dame provides, so he'd just be doing himself a disservice.

The real punishment here is obviously the fact he has to sit out this year, loses a year of eligibility in a season where we're projected to do well (Probably better if he was eligible to play). This defense probably won't be as stout next year with numerous players graduating, this would have been a great year for Golson to make a mark at the BCS stage. Instead he's missing that opportunity and missing a year of playing as a result. He'll have to come back next year with a year of live game rust too. A QB guru can't make up for a year of missed practices and missing live game experience.

It irks me that anyone would be dissatisfied with the way Notre Dame handled the situation. At some schools he wouldn't have missed any games. At LSU the team would have just voted him back onto the field. The only way they could have been harsher is a complete expulsion, and Golson would have just wound up playing for another school next year just like he would have for us.
 
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NBC's Joe Posnanski just published an article titled "Brian Kelly's secret to success at Notre Dame? 'He understands us.'":"

Brian Kelly says he’s changed a lot since he became Notre Dame’s head coach. It’s a daunting thing to coach here. You go to the stadium and there are statues of Frank Leahy and Knute Rockne. You turn on the television, and there’s “Rudy” playing for the millionth time. There’s the Gipper. There’s Joe Montana. There’s Touchdown Jesus. The air is thick in South Bend with Notre Dame football. “Sure, the tradition is everywhere,” Dan Fox says. “I think about it every single day.”

Kelly admits that it’s tough NOT to think about it every day. Look at his life. He grew up a Catholic kid in Boston, he played at Assumpion and after this long and fascinating road, he was coaching Notre Dame. It was overwhelming. The job was overwhelming. The requests. The demands. The expectations. And there are the pressures, all of them, the academic pressures, the fan pressures, the media pressures, the historic pressures.

All those pressures have crushed good coaches. Kelly says they will not crush him. He’s learned to delegate. He’s better at spending time with his family now. He’s better at letting things go, at ignoring the distractions, at avoiding the media advice that is always available. There have been some tough times already for him at Notre Dame -- a handful of scandals, rough losses, recruiting challenges, the famous Notre Dame demand to excel academically AND win -- and he says that dealing with all of them have helped him get stronger as a coach.

Kelly is an interesting case study. He doesn’t have one particular way he coaches. Kelly has coached teams that won largely because of great offense and, especially last year, teams that won largely because of great defense. He does not coach by intimidation but, at the same time, he’s not the classic joke-around, I’m-your-buddy players coach. He’s won everywhere, and yet he’s not really talked about as a tactical genius. His coaches talk about the trust he shows in them. His players talk about how he has a knack, when their legs are just about to give way, of shouting: “OK, let’s cut practice short today and get some rest.”

And most of all, everyone talks about his knack for getting inside them. Kelly knows that this will be the toughest season. This is the season Notre Dame proves it is truly back as a national power or the season Notre Dame falls back and leaves everyone to wonder if 2012 wasn’t just one of those occasional good seasons that give false hope to fans who believe the Irish can once again be the best football program in America. It’s an open question.

And Kelly insists that the way to deal with it -- the best way to handle it -- is to forget about all of it and remember what really matters.

“When you’re head coach at Notre Dame, it’s so important on a day-to-day that you keep in perspective why you’re doing this job,” Kelly says. “And that is, you want to be around 18-to-21-year old kids that are the best and brightest in the world. And THAT’S why you’re doing this job. You’re not doing it for any other reason.”
 
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