Brian Kelly Contract

[STLDomer]

No worries...I don't know TJ. I have a subscription but i haven't read the rivals board in years other than a quick peruse. I hope he's right, trust me. But the guys I am talking about are beyond legit too..

I still don't see why on earth there would be a hold up considering everything I already stated, or why they would hold their announcement, but if TJ is saying its true, then that's great news. I'm definitely rooting for TJ's info to be right. He's obviously connected and has a track record, and I'm no insider, so go with his info...

The expectation on Rivals is (or at least was before my subscription ended a week ago) that they could/would announce it at the expected press conference the day before fall camp begins.

 

[Rocket89]

I'm going to leave this topic alone as I think it hits too close to home for many and people are going to believe what they are going to believe. It's all good though; I can understand people not wanting to believe it. I probably wouldn't either if it wasn't said directly to me.

Just a thought but it feels like you've said a lot in this thread without saying much except to show everyone that they don't have connections to people close to the program but you do.

I will follow that up by saying 2 things:

1. I don't think Kelly is going to leave ND in the future specifically because of what's going on with this contract extension. That seems to be the way it's being framed (WHY ISN'T THIS DONE YET OMG!) and I'll go ahead and call that bluff.

2. Anyone who thinks they know what Kelly will do after this year is likely guessing as I'd bet Kelly himself doesn't have his mind made up. I'm sure he'd listen to offers but he did that already and he's still here.

None of this is to say he won't leave, but this "people are gonna believe" thing is pretty weak IMO.

 

[phork]

Frankly I don't trust any coaches and my green color'd shades were smashed when this Eagles thing broke. I remember posting my thoughts about it and people sloughing it off. My spidey senses are still tingling.

There is no reason to not have this done. If Kelly leaves, and ND doesn't hire within (Diaco, Martin) its back to 6-6. I hate to say this again but I am going to. ND isn't for everyone. The pressure cooker that exists here is beyond any other school out there. So right away your candidates are whittled down to a very select pool. Pools which generally are filled with people content at their current address.
Sometimes you catch lightning in a bottle. Mostly you get what ND has been the past 20 years..

 

[NDinL.A.]

Just a thought but it feels like you've said a lot in this thread without saying much except to show everyone that they don't have connections to people close to the program but you do.

I will follow that up by saying 2 things:

1. I don't think Kelly is going to leave ND in the future specifically because of what's going on with this contract extension. That seems to be the way it's being framed (WHY ISN'T THIS DONE YET OMG!) and I'll go ahead and call that bluff.

2. Anyone who thinks they know what Kelly will do after this year is likely guessing as I'd bet Kelly himself doesn't have his mind made up. I'm sure he'd listen to offers but he did that already and he's still here.

None of this is to say he won't leave, but this "people are gonna believe" thing is pretty weak IMO.

I actually did post much more but I erased it because it wasn't meant for public consumption and it shouldn't have been posted. A couple people saw it before I deleted it, and a couple of my friends on this site asked me through PM and I obliged. This is not a 'look at me' like you suggest, and it's comments like that that make people hesitant to post any info they get. I've been fortunate to have met a lot of people around that have good connections, and when appropriate I have posted the info here. Posts like yours make me wonder why I waste my time with those long *** posts.

Believe what you want; IMO you proved my point. It's all good. Like I said I'm glad TJ said what he said and I hope he's right. I'll gladly eat some major crow when it's announced.

 

[arrowryan]

The news conference is in 2 days. There has to be like a 99.999999% chance that the contract gets brought up.

 

[Rocket89]

I actually did post much more but I erased it because it wasn't meant for public consumption and it shouldn't have been posted. A couple people saw it before I deleted it, and a couple of my friends on this site asked me through PM and I obliged. This is not a 'look at me' like you suggest, and it's comments like that that make people hesitant to post any info they get. I've been fortunate to have met a lot of people around that have good connections, and when appropriate I have posted the info here. Posts like yours make me wonder why I waste my time with those long *** posts.

Believe what you want; IMO you proved my point. It's all good. Like I said I'm glad TJ said what he said and I hope he's right. I'll gladly eat some major crow when it's announced.

I’m not sure what to believe re: your comments in this thread because I’m not sure exactly what it is that you’re trying to say. You have to expect some of this when you post (as you say) info that isn’t meant for public consumption, then fan the flames about Kelly while simultaneously making others feel like sheep because they don’t believe Kelly will leave.

Just re-reading your comments here it seems to me that you’re one of the people who lost trust in Kelly after the Eagles situation. That seems obvious. It would not surprise me if the people from whom you got any info feel the same way as well, and I think that colors a lot of the perception vis a vis rumors about the contract negotiations.

Do I think it’s a real possibility that Kelly leaves after this year? Sure.

Do I think the contract negotiations (specifically between Kelly and ND) have been more difficult than Swarbrick has been letting on? Yeah, I can absolutely buy that.

Do I think Kelly has a lot of cut-throat in him, is trying to push the envelope with contract demands, and ND is balking on some of those demands? Yup, I can definitely see that.

Do I think that if any or all of the above are true that people who “lost trust in Kelly” earlier this year are going to start mentally preparing themselves for Kelly to leave and talking about it as if it’s inevitable and this fuels a lot of gossip? No doubt about it.

If all you meant to set forth was any of the 3 scenarios above I can believe it, but frankly if that’s all there is to the rumors I don’t think you’ve shed any light on the situation because all of those scenarios are as plain as day.

Now if you’re asking me to believe the following:

That Kelly has wandering eyes and Texas wants him as the head coach for a position that isn’t even open and may not be open after this season but that the situation is still very “real.” That because the contract extension hasn’t been announced yet or even agreed upon that the meter has swung towards Kelly probably leaving after this season. That Kelly is having so much trouble getting what he wants, or that his assistants didn’t get enough of a comfortable package, that there are insiders who know (with much certainty) that Kelly will leave after 2013. Or lastly, that the contract extension won’t be signed at all, the insiders know this, and then Kelly will leave in December.

If all you meant to say was that Kelly could leave and the lack of an announcement is kind of concerning, I think that’s fine, and I also think a lot of people can get behind that. But instead you came in saying things like this:

Don't listen to what (I'll redact the name) said in that other thread about 'what he's hearing'...the contract situation is extremely real, and Kelly leaving is an absolute possibility.

Don’t listen to what someone else is hearing? Why not? Why should we not listen to that person but instead listen to you? Or why can’t we listen to both? You kind of blamed me for calling you out on this, but the way you told everyone not to listen to what others are hearing and then put out a pretty scatter-shot theory brought it upon yourself, I think.

I don’t’ mean to be overly-harsh on you, but I am trying to clarify exactly what “Kelly leaving is an absolute possibility” actually means. I tend to think it’s coming from people who “lost trust in Kelly” and it’s severely coloring their perception on what the future looks like, but I don’t believe they know Kelly is fed up, talking to Texas, the contract won’t be signed, and he’s ready to jet South Bend in a few short months. If you’re trying to get us to believe that I think everyone should be skeptical. If you’re not saying that and just vaguely implying that Kelly could leave, well you aren’t saying much are you?

As an aside, I don’t think the lack of an announcement is really THAT concerning. I don’t even think if the negotiations are still on-going, or if they hit a snag, that it is necessarily a bad thing. Actually, it could be a good thing because it means Kelly is pushing hard for things that will help the program long-term and ND isn’t just throwing him a pile of money and leaving it at that.

 

[Irish#1]

I actually did post much more but I erased it because it wasn't meant for public consumption and it shouldn't have been posted. A couple people saw it before I deleted it, and a couple of my friends on this site asked me through PM and I obliged. This is not a 'look at me' like you suggest, and it's comments like that that make people hesitant to post any info they get. I've been fortunate to have met a lot of people around that have good connections, and when appropriate I have posted the info here. Posts like yours make me wonder why I waste my time with those long *** posts.

Believe what you want; IMO you proved my point. It's all good. Like I said I'm glad TJ said what he said and I hope he's right. I'll gladly eat some major crow when it's announced.

I’m not sure what to believe re: your comments in this thread because I’m not sure exactly what it is that you’re trying to say. You have to expect some of this when you post (as you say) info that isn’t meant for public consumption, then fan the flames about Kelly while simultaneously making others feel like sheep because they don’t believe Kelly will leave.

Just re-reading your comments here it seems to me that you’re one of the people who lost trust in Kelly after the Eagles situation. That seems obvious. It would not surprise me if the people from whom you got any info feel the same way as well, and I think that colors a lot of the perception vis a vis rumors about the contract negotiations.

Do I think it’s a real possibility that Kelly leaves after this year? Sure.

Do I think the contract negotiations (specifically between Kelly and ND) have been more difficult than Swarbrick has been letting on? Yeah, I can absolutely buy that.

Do I think Kelly has a lot of cut-throat in him, is trying to push the envelope with contract demands, and ND is balking on some of those demands? Yup, I can definitely see that.

Do I think that if any or all of the above are true that people who “lost trust in Kelly” earlier this year are going to start mentally preparing themselves for Kelly to leave and talking about it as if it’s inevitable and this fuels a lot of gossip? No doubt about it.

If all you meant to set forth was any of the 3 scenarios above I can believe it, but frankly if that’s all there is to the rumors I don’t think you’ve shed any light on the situation because all of those scenarios are as plain as day.

Now if you’re asking me to believe the following:

That Kelly has wandering eyes and Texas wants him as the head coach for a position that isn’t even open and may not be open after this season but that the situation is still very “real.” That because the contract extension hasn’t been announced yet or even agreed upon that the meter has swung towards Kelly probably leaving after this season. That Kelly is having so much trouble getting what he wants, or that his assistants didn’t get enough of a comfortable package, that there are insiders who know (with much certainty) that Kelly will leave after 2013. Or lastly, that the contract extension won’t be signed at all, the insiders know this, and then Kelly will leave in December.

If all you meant to say was that Kelly could leave and the lack of an announcement is kind of concerning, I think that’s fine, and I also think a lot of people can get behind that. But instead you came in saying things like this:

Don't listen to what (I'll redact the name) said in that other thread about 'what he's hearing'...the contract situation is extremely real, and Kelly leaving is an absolute possibility.

Don’t listen to what someone else is hearing? Why not? Why should we not listen to that person but instead listen to you? Or why can’t we listen to both? You kind of blamed me for calling you out on this, but the way you told everyone not to listen to what others are hearing and then put out a pretty scatter-shot theory brought it upon yourself, I think.

I don’t’ mean to be overly-harsh on you, but I am trying to clarify exactly what “Kelly leaving is an absolute possibility” actually means. I tend to think it’s coming from people who “lost trust in Kelly” and it’s severely coloring their perception on what the future looks like, but I don’t believe they know Kelly is fed up, talking to Texas, the contract won’t be signed, and he’s ready to jet South Bend in a few short months. If you’re trying to get us to believe that I think everyone should be skeptical. If you’re not saying that and just vaguely implying that Kelly could leave, well you aren’t saying much are you?

As an aside, I don’t think the lack of an announcement is really THAT concerning. I don’t even think if the negotiations are still on-going, or if they hit a snag, that it is necessarily a bad thing. Actually, it could be a good thing because it means Kelly is pushing hard for things that will help the program long-term and ND isn’t just throwing him a pile of money and leaving it at that.

NDinLA.......I don't doubt you one bit. Your posts are usually spot on and I believe you know some folks who are in the right places. I will say this though. From my perspective, unless those people are JS, BK, someone on the board or the person in the legal department, I'm not sure they really know everything and it's more of an educated guess. Since ND is a private school, I wouldn't be surprised if they are using an outside legal firm to handle this contract to keep the terms quiet. Something like this could cost someone their job if it were found they were leaking information.

Rocket......I would doubt that BK is pushing the envelope. He's smart and thinks things through before acting. Regardless of how good he is and what he accomplishes, if he pushes things too hard or far, ND will turn a deaf ear. They won't let him dictate anything and his act (if there is one) will grow old quickly. When that happens he won't be around. I don't see any of that happening.

I don't think BK is going anywhere, because he knows he's very close to winning a NC. With the restrictions BK has, winning a NC at ND will put him in a new stratosphere where only Saban currently resides. No matter how many NC's Bama wins, a NC at ND will bring more kudos, exposure, publicity and opportunities to earn outside of the job than anywhere else. ND is still an elite brand.

I will say this. If BK were to leave for another college program, it will be to one of the few programs that is considered to be royalty and there are only a handful of them (Yes Texas is one of them). The reason he would do that is to get away from the academic and admissions restrictions he has to deal with.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

I'll summarize this and we will be coming close to closing this thread for a while because we are just about to go off the deep end.

re: Texas- All just internet message board fodder. Nothing to read into at this point. Seriously, there is a rumor that Saban wants the Texas job. I mean come on.

re: Assistants- One very good source (TJ) says they were all taken care of, another really good source says at least one of the assistants didn't get that big of a raise so they are questioning what all the others got. No need to speculate on who that one coach is.

re: BK- One good source says it is basically done and will be announced in due time. Two other sources both from the same site and both very connected say that they have heard that it is not going as well and the number wasn't big enough and talks have been put off for now.


He will be our coach for this season and until he signs an extension we will all have to worry. There is no one that knows that BK will leave after this season. They just see that a) he flirted last year and b) that there is no deal done and that they are putting those two together to predict that he leaves.

 

[tko]

I'd like to hear more about the scandelous nonsense from the spring football tailgate. why haphazardly throw that in there if you're not going to comment on it? is it really relevent to the thread? enlighten please.

 

[greyhammer90]

I'll summarize this and we will be coming close to closing this thread for a while because we are just about to go off the deep end.

Why? Go close the Trayvon Martin thread, this thread is actually discussing ND football.

 

[ND NYC]

"Texas?!
Brian Kelly to Texas?!
Texas.
Texas?!
Brian Kelly to Texas?!
We talking bout Brian Kelly...to Texas?!"

--Allen Iverson

 

[ThePiombino]

I'd like to hear more about the scandelous nonsense from the spring football tailgate. why haphazardly throw that in there if you're not going to comment on it? is it really relevent to the thread? enlighten please.

What in the "H-E-double hockey sticks" did I miss?! What happened???

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Why? Go close the Trayvon Martin thread, this thread is actually discussing ND football.

Lol I am a lot closer to closing that one.

 

[BobD]

Longest off season ever!

(I say this every year)

 

[loomis41973]

I'd like to hear more about the scandelous nonsense from the spring football tailgate. why haphazardly throw that in there if you're not going to comment on it? is it really relevent to the thread? enlighten please.

YES please

 

[NDohio]

Sometimes I wish I just stayed in the dark and didn't follow so closely. Cheer for UND on Saturday's in the fall and then anxiously await next season the rest of the year.

Bring on the Owls!!

 

[NDinL.A.]

Don’t listen to what someone else is hearing? Why not? Why should we not listen to that person but instead listen to you?

Because that particular dude is a blowhard and consistently throws bullsh!t out there that simply isn't true, or as in his own words, "So when I jump on this site I say some things just for effect, because it is so damned fun, because there are few consequences. If they don't care for it, almost everybody (else) ignores it." His exact quote.

When you have a guy like that who on another thread has been called out multiple times by multiple posters for lies and bending words and being wrong on simple facts (and rarely acknowledging it) and saying one thing but then doing the exact opposite, then yeah, I'll tell people not to believe what the blowhard is saying when he's way off and/or making stuff up.

Other people? I absolutely believe that they are hearing what they are hearing and I take no issue with them whatsoever. I've had a couple nice PM's with people who are hearing the same and some that are hearing differently. It's all good. TP and I text all the time and I know his people disagree with what I was told big time, but again, it's all good.

The rest of your post, I have nothing against it (edit: actually, I still blindly trusted Kelly until recently. NOW I don't, but I still love the dude and support him fully.) I realized I shouldn't have put it out there and deleted a lot of it; that was on me. I've kept most of what I heard off the board because of that. I hate that I even brought anything up b/c I feel like 'that guy', when that's the furthest from what I am (but I see why people would say it). But like I said, since other sites aside from Rivals are talking about it, I thought people without subscriptions should know that it's out there. Because of TJ, Rivals has a far different tone that other boards that I have read. It's good to know all sides.

 

[irisheyes]

I think its pretty safe to say bk will be at nd this season for sure. We are a month out where is he going to go? As far as next season is concerned, why dont we see how this season goes? We have had plenty of coaches in the past do great their first couple seasons and then go flat. It happens. A majority of the fan base already has a bad taste in their mouth from the comments he made about "his players" when he first came here, and then add the eagles drama. If he has a bad or even possibly a mediocre season a majority of the people will be screaming for his firing. We just need to see how this season goes, no need to worry about things that are outside of our control.

 

[ND NYC]

anyone else find it funny that rivals (II) has a paying member (TJ) who is better sourced than the guys running the site (PS, TP, JB)?

 

[Who'saWildManNow]

This is true but most won early with the existing players and amenities while failing to innovate.

Kelly tore down the football "team" and started building a program. From recruiting to nutrition to training he's advanced every aspect of ND football. I'd be shocked if he didn't continue to churn out 9+ win seasons, assuming he's here to do that.

I think its pretty safe to say bk will be at nd this season for sure. We are a month out where is he going to go? As far as next season is concerned, why dont we see how this season goes? We have had plenty of coaches in the past do great their first couple seasons and then go flat. It happens. A majority of the fan base already has a bad taste in their mouth from the comments he made about "his players" when he first came here, and then add the eagles drama. If he has a bad or even possibly a mediocre season a majority of the people will be screaming for his firing. We just need to see how this season goes, no need to worry about things that are outside of our control.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Because that particular dude is a blowhard and consistently throws bullsh!t out there that simply isn't true, or as in his own words, "So when I jump on this site I say some things just for effect, because it is so damned fun, because there are few consequences. If they don't care for it, almost everybody (else) ignores it." His exact quote.

When you have a guy like that who on another thread has been called out multiple times by multiple posters for lies and bending words and being wrong on simple facts (and rarely acknowledging it) and saying one thing but then doing the exact opposite, then yeah, I'll tell people not to believe what the blowhard is saying when he's way off and/or making stuff up.

Other people? I absolutely believe that they are hearing what they are hearing and I take no issue with them whatsoever. I've had a couple nice PM's with people who are hearing the same and some that are hearing differently. It's all good. TP and I text all the time and I know his people disagree with what I was told big time, but again, it's all good.

The rest of your post, I have nothing against it (edit: actually, I still blindly trusted Kelly until recently. NOW I don't, but I still love the dude and support him fully.) I realized I shouldn't have put it out there and deleted a lot of it; that was on me. I've kept most of what I heard off the board because of that. I hate that I even brought anything up b/c I feel like 'that guy', when that's the furthest from what I am (but I see why people would say it). But like I said, since other sites aside from Rivals are talking about it, I thought people without subscriptions should know that it's out there. Because of TJ, Rivals has a far different tone that other boards that I have read. It's good to know all sides.

You are the only person who has called me a liar. And that must be from a deep and abiding personal knowledge . . .

Of lying, not me. I have made mistakes. I have gotten things wrong. But calling me a liar is more about you than me, and very interesting considering your stance in this thread.

And I repeatedly posted the following from Keith Arnold as confirmation of what I heard:

***

While Irish fans still wait for an official announcement of a contract extension for head coach Brian Kelly, Blue & Gold Illustrated continues to release tidbits from a sit down with athletic director Jack Swarbrick.

And while Swarbrick continues to stress that a Kelly contract will get done sooner than later, it does appear that the Irish assistant coaches got a much deserved bump in their contracts as well as some other perks that kept the coaching staff in tact.

This from BGI’s conversation with Swarbrick:

One common complaint among former head coaches at Notre Dame is that they didn’t have the money to hang on to high quality assistants. Despite interest from several other teams, the Irish were able to keep its full 10-man staff intact this offseason. Swarbrick said that was an important focus for him and Kelly.

To get there Swarbrick said he loosened the purse strings to stay competitive with other top tier programs. He also said the assistants have more opportunities to add responsibilities and prepare for a future head coaching career than they have in the past.

“Certainly you have to respond to the market, and that’s an element of it, but it’s broader than that,” he said. “It’s about the level of engagement and responsibility you give them. Reinforcing the message that you are prepared to do whatever you can to help them achieve career objectives. Those are all pieces of it.”

***

Dealing with your bull shiit is like dealing with napalm. Once it is out of the can, shiit has to burn itself out. When it is done, nothing is left. I wish you could just stop with your disparaging comments.

Because that particular dude is a blowhard and consistently throws bullsh!t out there that simply isn't true, or as in his own words, "So when I jump on this site I say some things just for effect, because it is so damned fun, because there are few consequences. If they don't care for it, almost everybody (else) ignores it." His exact quote.

His exact quote taken totally out of context. This whole post of yours is laughable because your actions make you a far site worse that the liar you accuse me of being. That statement was about teasing someone, not about anything to do with facts posted in anyone of these threads.

Thanks for confirming what I had to say. What poster would be stupid enough to believe that anyone would cavalierly impugn themselves like you try to say? And me a blowhard? If that means that person that blew your @ss out of the water, by highlighting your anti-social, lying, words and actions? Then yes. I am a blowhard. I mean do you think anyone wants to hear this?

This is easy LA. You just try to turn what someone said about you around on them. Anyone can go back two years and see this in your behavior. You don't even have an ounce of creativity. Let's get back to the BK thread.

 

[phork]

First lets get this straight, Kelly is going no where for this season. I don't know how anyone got the idea that he wouldn't be here this year. Next year is a different story.

Frankly I just don't get why this is not a done deal right now. You sign your program saving coach the day after the NCG win or lose and make his assistants happy. If you don't pay your assistants you are as good as dead.
So suddenly this drags on for 6 months. Assistants appear to be paid and happy. Head coach is not. If BK keeps winning and shockingly wins the NC this year, your price tag probably atleast doubled.

I get that ND is wary of doing this, RE: Weis, Charlie, but I think all pertinent pointers show that this is different than Weis' heyday. If I am Swarbrick I give him what he wants with the implied tone of "Don't ask for more until you win a NC or your contract is done."

 

[irishpat183]

Frankly I don't trust any coaches and my green color'd shades were smashed when this Eagles thing broke. I remember posting my thoughts about it and people sloughing it off. My spidey senses are still tingling.

There is no reason to not have this done. If Kelly leaves, and ND doesn't hire within (Diaco, Martin) its back to 6-6. I hate to say this again but I am going to. ND isn't for everyone. The pressure cooker that exists here is beyond any other school out there. So right away your candidates are whittled down to a very select pool. Pools which generally are filled with people content at their current address.
Sometimes you catch lightning in a bottle. Mostly you get what ND has been the past 20 years..

Yep. I got banned for saying he was part of our losing 5 star guys and that his flirting with the NFL hurts.

I don't think he's coming back after this year. Unless he gets that deal done soon.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

First lets get this straight, Kelly is going no where for this season. I don't know how anyone got the idea that he wouldn't be here this year. Next year is a different story.

Frankly I just don't get why this is not a done deal right now. You sign your program saving coach the day after the NCG win or lose and make his assistants happy. If you don't pay your assistants you are as good as dead.
So suddenly this drags on for 6 months. Assistants appear to be paid and happy. Head coach is not. If BK keeps winning and shockingly wins the NC this year, your price tag probably atleast doubled.

I get that ND is wary of doing this, RE: Weis, Charlie, but I think all pertinent pointers show that this is different than Weis' heyday. If I am Swarbrick I give him what he wants with the implied tone of "Don't ask for more until you win a NC or your contract is done."

How many years does he have left on his contract?

 

[NDWorld247]

How many years does he have left on his contract?

Through 2016 per the extension he signed in January 2012.

 

[Rocket89]

I don't think he's coming back after this year. Unless he gets that deal done soon.

I bet that's not true.

See the thing with the "I lost trust in Kelly" crowd is that the new deal won't gain your trust back. Just wait until next off-season when a couple teams are interested in Kelly and the rumors start up again. How many of you will remain calm because Kelly got a raise a few months earlier? He received a contract extension not that long ago...did that comfort anyone during the Eagles business?

If Kelly wants to leave, he'll leave. No amount of money can keep him here if he really wants out or another opportunity in life. This whole "trust" thing is kind of funny, like he's your wife or something. If he hurt anyone's feeling by not taking another job, y'all will be gun shy and screaming "he's leaving" the next time other teams come after him.

So I'll lay that out there right now. The new contract will only placate some people until he's offered other jobs the next time around.

 

[irishpat183]

I bet that's not true.

See the thing with the "I lost trust in Kelly" crowd is that the new deal won't gain your trust back. Just wait until next off-season when a couple teams are interested in Kelly and the rumors start up again. How many of you will remain calm because Kelly got a raise a few months earlier? He received a contract extension not that long ago...did that comfort anyone during the Eagles business?

If Kelly wants to leave, he'll leave. No amount of money can keep him here if he really wants out or another opportunity in life. This whole "trust" thing is kind of funny, like he's your wife or something. If he hurt anyone's feeling by not taking another job, y'all will be gun shy and screaming "he's leaving" the next time other teams come after him.

So I'll lay that out there right now. The new contract will only placate some people until he's offered other jobs the next time around.

Its a whole lot harder to get a guy to leave when he's the best paid in the industry he's in at the level he's at.

So while you make a good point about opportunity, when you're making a ton, and have an opportunity to bring home the first title to THE historic program in CFB....you're more likely staying

 

[Rocket89]

Its a whole lot harder to get a guy to leave when he's the best paid in the industry he's in at the level he's at.

So while you make a good point about opportunity, when you're making a ton, and have an opportunity to bring home the first title to THE historic program in CFB....you're more likely staying

Yeah there is some truth to that. Although I don't think Kelly will be among the highest paid coaches in the game (top 3) but he might be in that area.

I'm just not sure when the Eagles rumors started that a lot of people thought it was about money. It was more "Kelly is a ladder climber" or "Kelly has always wanted to coach in the NFL." I think people coming to the realization that those motives could be true is a big part of the reason why they lost trust. If it was mostly about money the trust would have immediately shifted towards Swarbrick.

 

[ACamp1900]

If Notre Dame has another good/big year AND BK leaves right after because the admin wouldn't do what it takes to hold onto him... AFTER the previous four coaches...

well, if that happens, I'd seriously have to re-evaluate love affair/passion in this whole thing...

What would be the point of investing so much if the admin. is that self defeating... just the thought is frustrating.

 

[ThePiombino]

If Notre Dame has another good/big year AND BK leaves right after because the admin wouldn't do what it takes to hold onto him... AFTER the previous four coaches...

well, if that happens, I'd seriously have to re-evaluate love affair/passion in this whole thing...

What would be the point of investing so much if the admin. is that self defeating... just the thought is frustrating.

This pretty much sums it up for me.