All things Spartans

[dublinirish]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="de" dir="ltr">Michigan State coach Mark Dantonio statement on LJ Scott <a href="https://t.co/FgLQOAG6wV">pic.twitter.com/FgLQOAG6wV</a></p>— Matt Fortuna (@Matt_Fortuna) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matt_Fortuna/status/921444988659040257?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 20, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[zelezo vlk]

All it takes to get a drivers license is the national spotlight and your head coach holding your hand the whole way.

 

[dublinirish]

All it takes to get a drivers license is the national spotlight and your head coach holding your hand the whole way.

"he paid a price both fiancially and publicly" is coach speak for $500 and everyone thinking you are a total dumbass

 

[connor_in]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">LJ Scott driving to Spartan Stadium on Saturday. <a href="https://t.co/hmM5e8oYgl">pic.twitter.com/hmM5e8oYgl</a></p>— Psquaaaaa (@ItzPstein) <a href="https://twitter.com/ItzPstein/status/921447365323653120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 20, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A fully licensed LJ Scott on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MSUHomecoming?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MSUHomecoming</a> campus this afternoon . . . <a href="https://t.co/65lkK9pTky">pic.twitter.com/65lkK9pTky</a></p>— SPARTANTIQUES (@SPARTANTIQUES) <a href="https://twitter.com/SPARTANTIQUES/status/921448595164925953?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 20, 2017</a></blockquote>
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This last one brought a smile to my face...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I for one am glad LJ Scott is not being suspended for traffic tickets, especially when some other teams in MI don't suspend convicted felons</p>— Luke Dionise (@LukeDionise) <a href="https://twitter.com/LukeDionise/status/921447274311507970?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 20, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[connor_in]

LJ Scott accepts plea deal after arrest on driving with suspended license, will play vs. Indiana | MLive.com

Just for info on closure for this

 

[dublinirish]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some final thoughts on what's just the beginning of our coverage regarding Michigan State Athletics, including the basketball and football teams. Tune in to <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SportsCenter</a> at 6pm ET on ESPN <a href="https://t.co/GO1cJbfIgx">pic.twitter.com/GO1cJbfIgx</a></p>— Bob Ley (@BobLeyESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/BobLeyESPN/status/956958676845285376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"This essentially is a university that had their own in-house justice system running things their way." - <a href="https://twitter.com/ryansmithtv?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ryansmithtv</a> <a href="https://t.co/8txUFaoijI">pic.twitter.com/8txUFaoijI</a></p>— Outside The Lines (@OTLonESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/OTLonESPN/status/956956979808874503?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"Even MSU's most-recognizable figures, football coach Mark Dantonio and basketball coach Tom Izzo, have had incidents involving their programs" - <a href="https://twitter.com/pinepaula?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@pinepaula</a> <a href="https://t.co/FCYcF42KZK">pic.twitter.com/FCYcF42KZK</a></p>— Outside The Lines (@OTLonESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/OTLonESPN/status/956956033536098304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In what Title IX investigators called “a sexually hostile environment," at least 16 Michigan State football players have been named in accusations of rape or violence against women since Mark Dantonio became head coach in 2007.</p>— Outside The Lines (@OTLonESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/OTLonESPN/status/956954323338121217?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">DEVELOPING: Michigan State Athletic Director Mark Hollis resigns. Tune into OTL at 1pm ET on ESPN for continued Michigan State coverage.</p>— Outside The Lines (@OTLonESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/OTLonESPN/status/956945046242242560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[gkIrish]

This is crazy

 

[BobbyMac]

Why couldn't it be Michigan.

 

[IrishLax]

OK sooooooo on the surface this seems really bad and like they're all done for.

However, 16 accusations over 11 years isn't that insane and I'd like to know more about the nature of the accusations before passing judgment. Is this a Baylor style thing? Or were most of the accusations things like "he slapped me on the butt while drunk and laughed about it."? Were they investigated? Reported to the cops? Were any of the 16 false? Because we know for the most recent incident they kicked people involved out of school.

Did OTL already get into all of that?

 

[connor_in]

Weren't like 4 of them just last off season for them? The kid from Fort Wayne in one and three players on one girl in another incident (like some of their biggest recruits).

 

[zelezo vlk]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: Tom Izzo will announce upcoming retirement in the next few days. Izzo intends to finish the current season, sources tell <a href="https://twitter.com/TheVertical?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheVertical</a>.</p>— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojVerticalNBA) <a href="https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/956978587541889024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[koonja]

Why couldn't it be Michigan.

I would give up almost anything!

Out of sweet justice, would you rather this be Michigan or Texas A&M? My vote is Michigan, but Texas A&M is very tempting.

 

[connor_in]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: Tom Izzo will announce upcoming retirement in the next few days. Izzo intends to finish the current season, sources tell <a href="https://twitter.com/TheVertical?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheVertical</a>.</p>— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojVerticalNBA) <a href="https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/956978587541889024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There are "reports" popping up on these interwebs, I believe from fake or spoof accounts, that Izzo is planning on announcing his own retirement in the coming days. A source close to Izzo says this is "nonsense."</p>— Brendan F. Quinn (@BFQuinn) <a href="https://twitter.com/BFQuinn/status/956995195127595010?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[connor_in]

I would give up almost anything!

Out of sweet justice, would you rather this be Michigan or Texas A&M? My vote is Michigan, but Texas A&M is very tempting.

UM has had its problems too (Taylor Lewan and friends), the NCAA didn't care

 

[Luckylucci]

I would give up almost anything!

Out of sweet justice, would you rather this be Michigan or Texas A&M? My vote is Michigan, but Texas A&M is very tempting.

Fuck Mike Elko, forever

But certainly Michigan.

 

[Irish#1]

Sparty is going to have enough problems with Nassar, let alone this crap that's percolating.

 

[STLDomer]

I definitely wish we had Dantonio instead of BK

 

[stlnd01]

Didn’t read the whole thing - it’s a huge investigation into both football and basketball programs at MSU - but it’s a pretty tough and detailed story. Made a lot of hay about Dantonio’s comments last year about how they’d never had sex assault incidents before that stuff. Asks how he couldn’t have known about all these others.

In that climate there right now, with his AD gone, wouldn’t be surprised if DAntonio is next. Stewart Mandel seems to think he’ll be toast, fwiw.

https://theathletic.com/223266/2018...gnations-sexual-assault-scandal-larry-nassar/

The full OTL piece is linked in there.

 

[Irish2155]

I was wondering when MSU was going to get heat for this. Think I might have posted this before, maybe on the PSU thread, but this in my opinion is much worse than the Sandusky situation.

When the Institution knows there is a problem yet continues to feed the predator with victims the Institution should be just as much at fault. It is sickening.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Mark Emmert Was Made Aware of Michigan State Sexual Assault Reports in 2010 | Bleacher Report

 

[pumpdog20]

I would give up almost anything!

Out of sweet justice, would you rather this be Michigan or Texas A&M? My vote is Michigan, but Texas A&M is very tempting.

The saying is "Fuck Michigan".

Are you really trying to bring aTm in this discussion?

 

[IrishLax]

I’m watching the OTL thing on ESPN and this is pretty fucked up. A lot of it is really, really bad. A lot of it is sorta unverifiable conjecture and kind of sketchy... but other stuff makes you go “wow”.

 

[sharksamardzija8345]

Mark Emmert Was Made Aware of Michigan State Sexual Assault Reports in 2010 | Bleacher Report

Big if true. Might force that ass clown to resign if it gets any messier or deeper.

 

[Irishnuke]

I was wondering when MSU was going to get heat for this. Think I might have posted this before, maybe on the PSU thread, but this in my opinion is much worse than the Sandusky situation.

When the Institution knows there is a problem yet continues to feed the predator with victims the Institution should be just as much at fault. It is sickening.

I don’t see how it’s worse than the Sandusky situation. I think they’re pretty equal in terms of how f’ing disgusting they are. Maybe you’re referring to how many people are involved in the cover up and how many just turned a blind eye. I might agree with you there.

 

[tko]

Burn Sparty to the ground. Stay vigilant in your own communities as well.

 

[MNIrishman]

Burn Sparty to the ground. Stay vigilant in your own communities as well.

I'm going to wait until the state AG has completed his investigation. There's a lot that sounds pretty awful, but I don't trust ESPN as a journalistic organization. It's more a loose confederation of agenda-driven no-talent hypeclowns. You get clicks for extremity, not accuracy.

When the proper authorities who don't stand to profit from the victims' stories of suffering have drawn a conclusion on the extent and depth of this, I will listen.

 

[OhioIrish31]

I'm going to wait until the state AG has completed his investigation. There's a lot that sounds pretty awful, but I don't trust ESPN as a journalistic organization. It's more a loose confederation of agenda-driven no-talent hypeclowns. You get clicks for extremity, not accuracy.

When the proper authorities who don't stand to profit from the victims' stories of suffering have drawn a conclusion on the extent and depth of this, I will listen.

Agree on all counts.

 

[Irish2155]

I don’t see how it’s worse than the Sandusky situation. I think they’re pretty equal in terms of how f’ing disgusting they are. Maybe you’re referring to how many people are involved in the cover up and how many just turned a blind eye. I might agree with you there.

I agree, both situations are on the same level in terms of being disgusting. But MSU literally spoon fed this predator which makes it worse, IMO, from an institution standpoint. Sparty knew there was a problem, but continued to provide the predator with victims - that is where I think the difference is.

 

[condoms SUCk]

I would give up almost anything!

Out of sweet justice, would you rather this be Michigan or Texas A&M? My vote is Michigan, but Texas A&M is very tempting.

I second that motion.

 

[zelezo vlk]

So uhh. Spartans are gonna pay $500 million to the victims.

https://www.cbssports.com/general/news/michigan-state-reportedly-settles-with-larry-nassar-sexual-abuse-victims-for-500-million/