All Things SCOTUS

[Legacy]

Pithy comments and tweets are fine with me. As far as the tweet above, Peter Baker seems to be a reputable journalist working previously for a number of media including the NYT and Washington Post and others. Steve Cortes is a political operative who worked for the Trump Campaign. One can easily research for the Statute of limitations for civil suits and criminal prosecution of alleged perps of minors and of adults for D.C. and for Connecticut. Conn, after the Catholic priest abuses of minors reported by the Pennsylvania Grand Jury, is considering extending that statute of limitations.

K has been treated so unfairly, even though this time the woman is not a minor. Let them whither under the light of scrutiny for sake of fairness to K and his family of women. Why the rush? Get them all (alleged witnesses too) to testify. Let's see what they say under oath with the threat of prosecution should they lie to the FBI or to the Committee. The accusers (or victims) came out and told their stories to the public via the media. K can sue them in civil court anytime he wishes. Trump threatened that in the past for accusations of adultery.

Not...
“Let her testify, or not, and TAKE THE VOTE!” (Trump prior to the second accuser)

That way the optics are not sleezy and typical of Washington politics. An Iowa poll (Grassley's state) prior to the second accuser has 37% firmly for, 31% firmly against. The rest have not made up their minds (almost a third).

Over the past three decades, the Judiciary Committee has held a hearing an average of 45 days after a Supreme Court nomination and a final confirmation vote occurred an average of 26 days after that.
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(Heritage Foundation)

I assume Amy Coney Barrett would not have had these type of problems. I also assume that the righteous would still back K if a third or fourth accuser came forward. "Trump Derangement Syndrome" cuts both ways.

 

[ACamp1900]

Trump Derangement Syndrome.

They wonder why people call them Fake News. This is a great opportunity for NBC, CNN, Post, etc. to roast one of their own. Get some credibility back.

It works for who it's supposed to work with... I work with a couple of hard lined Linda Sarsour types who went to the Women's March and have a bunch of that stuff hanging in their offices.

Their narrative (and don't even bother chiming in otherwise you evil bigoted man) is as follows: Trump Kavanaugh and the right, as always, hate women and want to control our private parts. Kavanaugh is an evil rapist and these new allegations prove it. Get the vote out, women are not slaves, despite what these grotesque right wingers think....

it's,... interesting,... to watch.

 

[RDU Irish]

Diane Feinstein and Maxine Waters gang raped Bigfoot. Its why he is in hiding and so hard to find - ruined his life totally. I mean do you blame the guy for going completely off the grid?

I swear it's true - I'll even testify under oath. But they have to quit politics forever before I will testify. Loads of people were there and saw it but they don't remember b/c aliens abducted them later that same night so Elvis could wipe their memories. And thank God, b/c who deserves to live with that image in their mind.

 

[connor_in]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"I can't tell you how important I think it is for the future of the press in this country, if he's going to be brought down — we don't know that, but if he's going to be brought down — that the press isn't seen as complicit in that effort." —<a href="https://twitter.com/David_Gergen?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@David_Gergen</a> <a href="https://t.co/GgMbj06zqK">https://t.co/GgMbj06zqK</a></p>— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) <a href="https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/1044216170403037185?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 24, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Also, too late. <a href="https://t.co/Ud4OFGZTWZ">pic.twitter.com/Ud4OFGZTWZ</a></p>— Karol Markowicz (@karol) <a href="https://twitter.com/karol/status/1044083927290433537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 24, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[connor_in]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kavanaugh's letter to the Judiciary Committee is here: <a href="https://t.co/Egc0cGGysz">https://t.co/Egc0cGGysz</a></p>— Jennifer Haberkorn (@jenhab) <a href="https://twitter.com/jenhab/status/1044283266176569345?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 24, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Text:

Dear Chairman Grassley and Ranking Member Feinstein:

When I testified in front of the Senate three weeks ago, I explained my belief that fair process is
foundational to justice and to our democracy.

At that time, I sat before the Senate Judiciary Committee for more than 31 hours and answered
questions under oath. I then answered more questions at a confidential session. The following
week, I responded to more than 1,200 written questions, more than have been submitted to all
previous Supreme Court nominees combined.

Only after that exhaustive process was complete did I learn, through the news media, about a 36-year-old allegation from high school that had been asserted months earlier and withheld from me throughout the hearing process. First it was an anonymous allegation that I categorically and unequivocally denied. Soon after the accuser was identified, I repeated my denial on the record and made clear that I wished to appear before the Committee. I then repeated my denial to Committee investigators—under criminal penalties for false statements. All of the witnesses identified by Dr. Ford as being present at the party she describes are on the record to the Committee saying they have no recollection of any such party happening. I asked to testify before the Committee again under oath as soon as possible, so that both Dr. Ford and I could both be heard. I thank Chairman Grassley for scheduling that hearing for Thursday.

Last night, another false and uncorroborated accusation from 35 years ago was published. Once again, those alleged to have been witnesses to the event deny it ever happened. There is now a
frenzy to come up with something—anything—that will block this process and a vote on my
confirmation from occurring.

These are smears, pure and simple. And they debase our public discourse. But they are also a
threat to any man or woman who wishes to serve our country. Such grotesque and obvious
character assassination—if allowed to succeed—will dissuade competent and good people of all political persuasions from service.

As I told the Committee during my hearing, a federal judge must be independent, not swayed by public or political pressure. That is the kind of judge I will always be. I will not be intimidated
into withdrawing from this process. The coordinated effort to destroy my good name will not drive me out. The vile threats of violence against my family will not drive me out. The last minute character assassination will not succeed.

I have devoted my career to serving the public and the cause of justice, and particularly to
promoting the equality and dignity of women. Women from every phase of my life have come
forward to attest to my character. I am grateful to them. I owe it to them, and to my family, to
defend my integrity and my name. I look forward to answering questions from the Senate on
Thursday.

Sincerely,
Brett M. Kavanaugh

 

[NorthDakota]

Keg City Kav says he was a virgin through high school and college. Is that true? No idea. I'm inclined to think so. Got a bit emotional towards the end. I think he's going to get confirmed.

 

[SonofOahu]

Kava-nah is done. Once it was clear that this guy was/is a fucking DKE, it was over. The GOP knew this guy had a shady past, but Trump is only looking out for his own interests.

Should have put up Amy Barrett.

 

[NorthDakota]

Kava-nah is done. Once it was clear that this guy was/is a fucking DKE, it was over. The GOP knew this guy had a shady past, but Trump is only looking out for his own interests.

Should have put up Amy Barrett.

Someone is mad his girlfriend in college smashed a DKE. The frat guys at my school were harmless. I think he's getting confirmed.

Ford has cold feet, her lawyers are pissed about outside counsel(Aka....a woman) questioning her. Her own friend didn't have her back.

Barrett would have undergone borderline criminal character assassination too. Dems are terrified of 5 Conservatives on the Court. If RBG and/or Breyer kick the bucket/retire..I can only imagine the chaos. Rumor is if the GOP holds the Senate, Thomas will retire. We might get a clean line change lmao.

 

[Irish#1]

So one one the accusers admitted she was drunk and can't remember what year it happened because she's a little fuzzy on the details, but definitely remembers Kavanaugh standing next to her pulling up his pants?

To quote and old college drinking buddy of mine from about 400 years ago, "Something's rotten in the state of Denmark".

 

[wizards8507]

Someone is mad his girlfriend in college smashed a DKE. The frat guys at my school were harmless. I think he's getting confirmed.

Ford has cold feet, her lawyers are pissed about outside counsel(Aka....a woman) questioning her. Her own friend didn't have her back.

Barrett would have undergone borderline criminal character assassination too. Dems are terrified of 5 Conservatives on the Court. If RBG and/or Breyer kick the bucket/retire..I can only imagine the chaos. Rumor is if the GOP holds the Senate, Thomas will retire. We might get a clean line change lmao.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Kava-nah is done. Once it was clear that this guy was/is a fucking DKE, it was over. The GOP knew this guy had a shady past, but Trump is only looking out for his own interests.

Should have put up Amy Barrett.

Holy sh*t is this true? How'd he get this far??

 

[IrishLax]

Amy Barrett would already be confirmed. Should just nominate nothing but women from now on.

 

[NorthDakota]

Pretty much. Lmaooo

 

[Irishize]

Someone is mad his girlfriend in college smashed a DKE. The frat guys at my school were harmless. I think he's getting confirmed.

Ford has cold feet, her lawyers are pissed about outside counsel(Aka....a woman) questioning her. Her own friend didn't have her back.

Barrett would have undergone borderline criminal character assassination too. Dems are terrified of 5 Conservatives on the Court. If RBG and/or Breyer kick the bucket/retire..I can only imagine the chaos. Rumor is if the GOP holds the Senate, Thomas will retire. We might get a clean line change lmao.

Exactly, they could put Jesus Christ up and He would be crucified again. They should troll the Left and put up an imaginary candidate.

 

[ACamp1900]

Exactly, they could put Jesus Christ up and He would be crucified again. They should troll the Left and put up an imaginary candidate.

 

[Legacy]

For those interested in SCOTUS history and the importance of investigating prior allegations, they can Google Abe Fortas and/or Samuel Chase. Fortas resigned from SCOTUS and Chase's impeachment trial in the Senate who found him not guilty.

The impeachment process is the same for any federal employee. Both Fortas and Chase were impeached after a change in power of Congress and revelations subsequent to their confirmations which were done with a vote of sixty or more Senators. Impeachment articles have reportedly been drawn up by conservative Reps in the House against Rothenstein.

In more recent history, Solicitor General Robert Bork nominated by Reagan withdrew his nomination. Bork, as SG, had fired Archibald Cox after Nixon in the infamous Saturday Night Massacre fired the AG and Assistant AG. Trump, at least, is not repeating the Massacre until after Kavanaugh's confirmation, but should he do so and there is a similar change in power in the Congress after no real investigation of allegations and a confirmation of 50 or 51 Senators we shall see if West Virginia's recent impeachment/dismissals of all their state Supreme Court justices adds to such history.

 

[IrishLax]

Pithy comments and tweets are fine with me. As far as the tweet above, Peter Baker seems to be a reputable journalist working previously for a number of media including the NYT and Washington Post and others. Steve Cortes is a political operative who worked for the Trump Campaign. One can easily research for the Statute of limitations for civil suits and criminal prosecution of alleged perps of minors and of adults for D.C. and for Connecticut. Conn, after the Catholic priest abuses of minors reported by the Pennsylvania Grand Jury, is considering extending that statute of limitations.

K has been treated so unfairly, even though this time the woman is not a minor. Let them whither under the light of scrutiny for sake of fairness to K and his family of women. Why the rush? Get them all (alleged witnesses too) to testify. Let's see what they say under oath with the threat of prosecution should they lie to the FBI or to the Committee. The accusers (or victims) came out and told their stories to the public via the media. K can sue them in civil court anytime he wishes. Trump threatened that in the past for accusations of adultery.

I've got two comments on the bolded:

To the first bolded, I don't understand the obsession in this day and age with *who* is saying what unless it's conspiracy/policy. I grabbed that tweet because it was in my feed from some ND fan that I follow. It's weird how I follow strictly sports and fan accounts yet my feed tens to be mostly politics because Twitter gonna Twitter... but I digress. I think the Tweets do a good job of illustrating the absurdity of the jump-to-conclusion in both directions. "BELIEVE SURVIVORS!" ... but we don't know yet that anyone survived anything, and we've routinely seen the danger of a rush to judgment with that mentality (see: Duke lacrosse, etc.). "IT'S A 35 YEAR OLD ALLEGATION! WHAT BS!"... we've also seen the danger of this mentality, with things like the Catholic Church scandals. So what the hell is up with taking "allegations" as true/false or even having merit worth reporting until due diligence has been done?

To the second bolded, I think the "let's investigate everything" viewpoint is fine but it's also incredibly transparent why that angle is being pushed how it is. Virtually all of my friends are left-of-center, as am I on most issues. We were at a brewery this weekend talking about this, and I was surprised that there was consensus on how no one could defend the timing of everything. Yes, there SHOULD be an investigation to get all the facts. But this was all sprung in the most calculated fashion possible to drag out the process through the midterms. The emphasis is not noble and it is not on truth, the emphasis is on making damn sure there is no vote until after November. It was a politically savvy move to save a Supreme Court seat, and people need to treat it as such. None of these Democrats give a single f*ck about "defending women" or "believing survivors"... if they did, where is the public outcry about Keith Ellison? Because whataboutism actually works in this situation when evaluating their motives.

 

[Wild Bill]

Amy Barrett would already be confirmed. Should just nominate nothing but women from now on.

Barrett, to my knowledge, has written nothing on the 2A. The GOP has been burned far too many times with SC appointments to take that risk, especially when they have Kavanaugh, a Judge with far more experience, who has made his position on the 2A very clear.

Barrett, assuming she is who we think she is, will be a perfect replacement for Ruth bad girl Ginsburg. She will be destroyed by the media, though. No doubt in my mind. It's going to be worse than this.

 

[drayer54]

Amy Barrett would already be confirmed. Should just nominate nothing but women from now on.

I saw some tits at a concert in 1994. I think they may have been hers. I’m not sure. Also, I was drunk.

Details are fuzzy. None of my friends can corroborate the story.

Disqualify her now. Get the media onboard.

 

[BGIF]

Exactly, they could put Jesus Christ up and He would be crucified again. ...

Well, he did embrace a woman of ill repute when he was a young man ... 2000 years ago.

And then there was that explosive anger issue at the temple.

Plus, the guy was prone to wandering off into the desert by himself and staying incommunicado.

And then, there was that penchant to imbibe. The man liked his wine.

Hey, did you hear the one about him walking on water ... and speaking to Satan ... on a first name basis.


But no, He would not be crucified again. Legacy would list a dozen articles about the inhumanity of crucifixation quoting Booker that Spartacus was the last great crucifixation. The gladiator slave died to end slavery. Jesus merely wanted to die for the salvation of mankind.

The Left would just smear Jesus and leave him to live thus defeating his purpose in life and guaranteeing eternal damnation for all whether they wanted it or not. If that didn't work they'd threaten impeachment from the carpenter's union.

 

[connor_in]

Well, he did embrace a woman of ill repute when he was a young man ... 2000 years ago.

And then there was that explosive anger issue at the temple.

Plus, the guy was prone to wandering off into the desert by himself and staying incommunicado.

And then, there was that penchant to imbibe. The man liked his wine.

Hey, did you hear the one about him walking on water ... and speaking to Satan ... on a first name basis.


But no, He would not be crucified again. Legacy would list a dozen articles about the inhumanity of crucifixation quoting Booker that Spartacus was the last great crucifixation. The gladiator slave died to end slavery. Jesus merely wanted to die for the salvation of mankind.

The Left would just smear Jesus and leave him to live thus defeating his purpose in life and guaranteeing eternal damnation for all whether they wanted it or not. If that didn't work they'd threaten impeachment from the carpenter's union.

You can't use these...unlike with Brent, these items have been corroborated

 

[connor_in]

THIS IS JUST A RUMOR RIGHT NOW, NOT CONFIRMED.

There seems to be rumors swirling in social media circles last hour or two. Avenatti, aka creepy porn lawyer, who claimed to have a third woman ready to come forward to allege rape trains and drugs and alcohol on Kavanaugh was actually punked by 4chan users and disabled his twitter.

Will continue to follow to see if it is true or not

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If Avenatti actually got pranked by 4Chan, my entire year has been made<a href="https://t.co/ZNwADUaCQJ">https://t.co/ZNwADUaCQJ</a> <a href="https://t.co/4gku9vtZ82">pic.twitter.com/4gku9vtZ82</a></p>— Caleb Hull (@CalebJHull) <a href="https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1044654371030650880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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others says 99% chance it is NOT true, but it'd be funnier if it was


Apparently Avenatti denying he was 4chan prankedand is claiming his twitter is down due to too many bots attacking him...his statement is here along with some guys ironic comment

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Avenatti officially denies 4Chan prank but...I believe the accuser! Isn't that how this works now? <a href="https://t.co/CNaBKTLCNW">https://t.co/CNaBKTLCNW</a></p>— Shadowed Shinobi (@BrandonHathaw12) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonHathaw12/status/1044679298668359680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[wizards8507]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2nd Kavanaugh accuser Ramirez won't speak to committee. GOP Sen. Kennedy says her lawyer told Rs, "if you want our statement, read the New Yorker.” <a href="https://t.co/JSFGNvDsOU">https://t.co/JSFGNvDsOU</a> Via <a href="https://twitter.com/susanferrechio?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@susanferrechio</a></p>— Philip Klein (@philipaklein) <a href="https://twitter.com/philipaklein/status/1044680065869651968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[BGIF]

You can't use these...unlike with Brent, these items have been corroborated

Actually they haven't been corroborated; they been believed as The Word of God. They were oral stories written down centuries to millennia later in the case of the Old Testament. And perhaps, 50 to 100 years later in the case of the New Testament by anonymous authors who were subsequently assigned pen names.

The actual Bible was compiled several hundred years to a millennia later depending upon which tribe of Christianity one chose to belong. Thus there are more than one hundred varieties of corroboration ... or not ... depending upon which spin doctor one chooses to by faith, or by narrative from an accident of birth.

Like the accusers (and the defenders) in this situation, many believe without actual proof as it fits their belief system or their desired outcome. But none of the claims were corroborated by those in attendance at the high school party, the college party, or the wedding at Cana nor is the time, date, or place of such events known.

 

[loomis41973]

Vote on Friday for confirmation.

Done

 

[connor_in]

Vote on Friday for confirmation.

Done

Isnt the Friday vote the committee vote and not the full Senate?

 

[loomis41973]

Every circus must eventually come to an end...
The animals get tired.

 

[BGIF]

Isnt the Friday vote the committee vote and not the full Senate?

That's how I read it. There was talk about holding the Senate over the weekend to possibly have a Senate vote.

 

[loomis41973]

Isnt the Friday vote the committee vote and not the full Senate?

You are correct.

Senate will follow.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Every circus must eventually come to an end...
The animals get tired.

Leave Hillary out of this