All Things SCOTUS

[ACamp1900]

Hear hear.

1) She can't remember anything about this "incident" and waited 36 years to tell the story.

2) Wake me up when leftists are appalled by Bill Clinton and Keith Ellison.

3) No matter who the Dem candidate is in 2020, I'm telling you he/ she fondled me several times when I was in 6th grade.

She can’t remember when it happened, but can remember she was 15 years old... as far as these snobby, lying leftists... someone should trump up fake allegations on every one of them because, you know, ‘shut up and believe the accuser’ is standard stuff suddenly.

 

[ACamp1900]

Someone needs to step up and tell them openly to sit down and shut up:

https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxn...league-who-admitted-hitting-his-wife.amp.html

 

[stlnd01]

Someone needs to step up and tell them openly to sit down and shut up:

https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxn...league-who-admitted-hitting-his-wife.amp.html

Yes, tell the shrill, snobby women to sit down and shut up. I'm sure that will go brilliantly for you.

 

[Wild Bill]

She can’t remember when it happened, but can remember she was 15 years old... as far as these snobby, lying leftists... someone should trump up fake allegations on every one of them because, you know, ‘shut up and believe the accuser’ is standard stuff suddenly.

Feinstein drugged me and tried to steal my virginity at a party my sophomore year of high school.

 

[ACamp1900]

Yes, tell the shrill, snobby women to sit down and shut up. I'm sure that will go brilliantly for you.

Call them out, it’s so obvuious they’re just using this accuser... think about if she really did have something happen... but men are the problem. No it’s women leaders like you who don’t give two shits unless it’s useful to them. Call them out

 

[stlnd01]

Call them out, it’s so obvuious they’re just using this accuser... think about if she really did have something happen... but men are the problem. No it’s women leaders like you who don’t give two shits unless it’s useful to them. Call them out

Call them out for what? Taking $1,000 from a fellow Senator who hit his wife 30 years ago? Big fucking deal.

I agree the Ford lady has been really badly handled, by all involved. And I'm not sure what to believe at this point, tbh. But telling her supporters to "sit down and shut up" over some trumped-up gotcha totally misunderstands how angry lots and lots of women are over the way this sort of thing has been ignored and dismissed (largely by men) for a very, very long time.

 

[ACamp1900]

Call them out for not really caring... I dont agree with your second paragraph at all but even if I did you don’t fix things by telling men “do what we say when it’s politically convienent or shut up”... women pretending to care and using potential victims as props is not solving a damned thing...

 

[NorthDakota]

Call them out for what? Taking $1,000 from a fellow Senator who hit his wife 30 years ago? Big fucking deal.

I agree the Ford lady has been really badly handled, by all involved. And I'm not sure what to believe at this point, tbh. But telling her supporters to "sit down and shut up" over some trumped-up gotcha totally misunderstands how angry lots and lots of women are over the way this sort of thing has been ignored and dismissed (largely by men) for a very, very long time.

This blew up in the Dems face.

They cant defend sitting on the allegations.
They cant defend rhe woman constantly moving the goalposts and making OUTRAGEOUS demands.
Heck I'm pretty sure the average person can see through the media's attempts at straight up lying about Republican orders.

I think they counted on Don making a big fuss about it. He actually held it together pretty well and the GOP bent over backwards to give this lady a shot.

She doesnt want to testify. Anyone with a brain can see that.

 

[ACamp1900]

This blew up in the Dems face.

They cant defend sitting on the allegations.
They cant defend rhe woman constantly moving the goalposts and making OUTRAGEOUS demands.
Heck I'm pretty sure the average person can see through the media's attempts at straight up lying about Republican orders.

I think they counted on Don making a big fuss about it. He actually held it together pretty well and the GOP bent over backwards to give this lady a shot.

She doesnt want to testify. Anyone with a brain can see that.

Nah, it’s all men’s fault... all of them... except those named Ellison, Clinton etc...

 

[stlnd01]

Call them out for not really caring... I dont agree with your second paragraph at all but even if I did you don’t fix things by telling men “do what we say when it’s politically convienent or shut up”... women pretending to care and using potential victims as props is not solving a damned thing...

I agree this all isn't solving much. But "tell them openly to sit down and shut up" - your words - is going to solve even less.

 

[ACamp1900]

I agree this all isn't solving much. But "tell them openly to sit down and shut up" - your words - is going to solve even less.

Letting them run unchallenged on this shit is worse... push back is my point.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Yes, tell the shrill, snobby women to sit down and shut up. I'm sure that will go brilliantly for you.

Ask them where their husbands are. They love that.

 

[Legacy]

GTFO with that lame bull shit. This is either the most naive, or dumbest, comment I've probably ever read on this site.

We don't need liberal democrats, such as yourself, lecturing us on sexual assault, family values, nor the physical attributes of any group.

I am crushed by your "oh, yeah" comment. Perhaps you want to comment on the point made, starting with the Fox News article. When did Trumpublicans lose their moral compass?

Not great optics:
Spokesman for GOP on Kavanaugh nomination resigns; has been accused of harassment in the past

I realize I'm in the minority in not accepting:
"And I can tell you this, there's nobody — nobody — that has more respect for women than I do."

The Reps quickly responded then:
Leaked tape captures Trump in crude rant with TV host (Fox)

 

[irishog77]

I am crushed by your "oh, yeah" comment. Perhaps you want to comment on the point made, starting with the Fox News article. When did Trumpublicans lose their moral compass?

Not great optics:
Spokesman for GOP on Kavanaugh nomination resigns; has been accused of harassment in the past

I realize I'm in the minority in not accepting:
"And I can tell you this, there's nobody — nobody — that has more respect for women than I do."

The Reps quickly responded then:
Leaked tape captures Trump in crude rant with TV host (Fox)

No, I just wanted to comment on how stupid your comment was.

 

[NorthDakota]

No, I just wanted to comment on how stupid your comment was.

Legacy just posts links...you cant ezpect any of his actual posts to have any valuable insight.

 

[Legacy]

Legacy just posts links...you cant ezpect any of his actual posts to have any valuable insight.

With the shoe on the other foot, I have no doubt that Trumpublicans would be whining that a nominee's accuser should be heard and outraged that a one vote majority on the Committee and in the Senate where the rules were changed to allow a tie vote to lead to a confirmation by a VP affirmation. She should be heard. We should also appreciate the kind of backlash she has endured prior to her testimony and the difficult decision she had to make, especially if her husband, parents, and, of course, her children as well as her students were unaware of her secret. That took guts, which many of us may not have had. The questions that posters here and those who have already attacked her in the media politicizing such an intimate, life-altering experience is shameful. I want to see how credible she is in her testimony before any final conclusion. But she should be heard as well as Kavanaugh. She may well be regretting coming forward but I imagine she expected the pushback and even some threats to her and her family. The degree that social media and some mainstream conservative media like Fox and big monied interests who are slamming her prior to any testimony may have been expected but is symptomatic of decay of any political morality (if those words can be used together) and a semblance of ethical standards. I saw my first commercial touting Kavanaugh's character and experience. Have we ever seen any commercials for a SCOTUS nominee before? I can't remember one. She should be heard. I posted McConnell's remarks. I posted a Fox News article by a woman explaining why she did not report her rape. I posted a link to Jeff Flake's call to Republicans to step back from the party it is becoming since the election. That's also been addressed in many posts and reservations about Trump's character others on the board from both political sides. Article links with excerpts allow anyone on the thread to choose to read them or not. Perhaps I shall choose one in the future and post the entire content as Whiskey does. But for now, like the issues raised in my original post often have multiple aspects. I don't regret posting comments that may engender any negative responses. These are political threads after all. To watch the level of discourse become two dimensional or see personal attacks as has driven some to abandon this thread is not only anathema to intelligent exchanges and a loss to all of us.

 

[Irishize]

With the shoe on the other foot, I have no doubt that Trumpublicans would be whining that a nominee's accuser should be heard and outraged that a one vote majority on the Committee and in the Senate where the rules were changed to allow a tie vote to lead to a confirmation by a VP affirmation. She should be heard. We should also appreciate the kind of backlash she has endured prior to her testimony and the difficult decision she had to make, especially if her husband, parents, and, of course, her children as well as her students were unaware of her secret. That took guts, which many of us may not have had. The questions that posters here and those who have already attacked her in the media politicizing such an intimate, life-altering experience is shameful. I want to see how credible she is in her testimony before any final conclusion. But she should be heard as well as Kavanaugh. She may well be regretting coming forward but I imagine she expected the pushback and even some threats to her and her family. The degree that social media and some mainstream conservative media like Fox and big monied interests who are slamming her prior to any testimony may have been expected but is symptomatic of decay of any political morality (if those words can be used together) and a semblance of ethical standards. I saw my first commercial touting Kavanaugh's character and experience. Have we ever seen any commercials for a SCOTUS nominee before? I can't remember one. She should be heard. I posted McConnell's remarks. I posted a Fox News article by a woman explaining why she did not report her rape. I posted a link to Jeff Flake's call to Republicans to step back from the party it is becoming since the election. That's also been addressed in many posts and reservations about Trump's character others on the board from both political sides. Article links with excerpts allow anyone on the thread to choose to read them or not. Perhaps I shall choose one in the future and post the entire content as Whiskey does. But for now, like the issues raised in my original post often have multiple aspects. I don't regret posting comments that may engender any negative responses. These are political threads after all. To watch the level of discourse become two dimensional or see personal attacks as has driven some to abandon this thread is not only anathema to intelligent exchanges and a loss to all of us.

The shoe has been on the other foot....numerous times over multiple decades. Just ask the family of Mary Jo Kopechne. Ask Juanita Broaddrick, Paula Jones, Gennifer Flowers, Kathleen Willey & now Karen Monahan.

One of the aforementioned victims actually lost her life but the person responsible was hailed as a hero of the Left. The others had their lives & reputations ruined. While Keith Ellison has said Monahan’s allegations are “made up”.

Everyone of those women has more credibility & proof than Kavanaugh’s accuser. Yet nothing happened and those pols went on to enjoy power & glory the remainder of their lives.

 

[Irishize]

So then what are your thoughts on this?
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BELIEVE WOMEN!* <a href="https://t.co/9NEWUSFTTX">https://t.co/9NEWUSFTTX</a></p>— Guy Benson (@guypbenson) <a href="https://twitter.com/guypbenson/status/1043172963112165377?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 21, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Mind you, Keith Ellison's accuser has physical evidence, corroboration, and a timeline of reporting accusations that stand in stark contrast to the accusation against Kavanagh. How do you reconcile the above with pretending that this is a "Republican" problem?

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-s-...ison-very-obvious-double-standard-in-outrage/

 

[Irish YJ]

and a new accusation

College classmate says Kavanaugh exposed himself to her at Yale party | Fox News

 

[drayer54]

Nobody really believes this loon. Only people who are desperate for a lib victory or enjoy chipping away at an honest judge for political gain are buying this.

Confirm him and move on. He should get the same vote count Scalia, Ginsburg. And Breyer got.

 

[Irish YJ]

supposedly a third accusation coming as well

 

[loomis41973]

Maybe we can reach a bakers dozen by Thursday.

 

[Irish YJ]

I guess the third is, per Stormy's creepy lawyer (who said he may run for prez), Kavvy likes to find women for training...

Kavanaugh denies 2nd accuser's sexual misconduct allegation as Avenatti claims 'evidence' of 'targeting' women for gang rape | Fox News

 

[NorthDakota]

This is all so transparent lmao. I cant take any of it remotely seriously. They are trying to destroy a dude entirely because of his views on Roe v. Wade.

 

[Irish YJ]

This is all so transparent lmao. I cant take any of it remotely seriously. They are trying to destroy a dude entirely because of his views on Roe v. Wade.

I don't even think it's that. I think it's just politics in 2018, and Trump hate.

There's a reason the first sent a letter to a Dem. And a reason it was held for months. If something did happen, the accuser is getting used so bad by the left. And a reason the 2nd story was broke by far Left paper (allegations her supposed best friend at the time has no recollection of). Avenatti is simply in it for his own personal gain and fame. I'm sure he will have some allegations in his back pocket to play off the letter he wrote. Have to wait and see if those have any corroboration. Likely those too, just like the first two, will be fuzzy and almost impossible to prove or disprove.

 

[Irish#1]

It's times like this and issues like this when I really miss bogtrotter to explain this all to me.

I miss Bogs, but not for his political rantings. Hope he's doing well.

 

[Irish#1]

Call them out for what? Taking $1,000 from a fellow Senator who hit his wife 30 years ago? Big fucking deal.

I agree the Ford lady has been really badly handled, by all involved. And I'm not sure what to believe at this point, tbh. But telling her supporters to "sit down and shut up" over some trumped-up gotcha totally misunderstands how angry lots and lots of women are over the way this sort of thing has been ignored and dismissed (largely by men) for a very, very long time.

It's not largely by men. My wife couldn't give a crap about politics. When she heard how long ago this allegation was supposed to have occured, she said there needs to be a statute of limitations on these type of allegations as this has gotten out of hand. Two ladies that work for me are questioning the validity and timing of Ford's allegation.

 

[IrishLax]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"Could find no one with firsthand knowledge." <br><br>So this sham story couldn't even meet the low standards of The NY Times. Journalism is largely dead in America, very damaging to our Republic. <a href="https://t.co/uMWUDJc731">https://t.co/uMWUDJc731</a></p>— Steve Cortes (@CortesSteve) <a href="https://twitter.com/CortesSteve/status/1044216268994347008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 24, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I mean....... what are we even doing at this point?

 

[Irishize]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"Could find no one with firsthand knowledge." <br><br>So this sham story couldn't even meet the low standards of The NY Times. Journalism is largely dead in America, very damaging to our Republic. <a href="https://t.co/uMWUDJc731">https://t.co/uMWUDJc731</a></p>— Steve Cortes (@CortesSteve) <a href="https://twitter.com/CortesSteve/status/1044216268994347008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 24, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I mean....... what are we even doing at this point?

The NYTimes refused to run it b/c there was no story...which is saying something. The New Yorker didn’t let that stop them.

 

[NorthDakota]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"Could find no one with firsthand knowledge." <br><br>So this sham story couldn't even meet the low standards of The NY Times. Journalism is largely dead in America, very damaging to our Republic. <a href="https://t.co/uMWUDJc731">https://t.co/uMWUDJc731</a></p>— Steve Cortes (@CortesSteve) <a href="https://twitter.com/CortesSteve/status/1044216268994347008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 24, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I mean....... what are we even doing at this point?

Trump Derangement Syndrome.

They wonder why people call them Fake News. This is a great opportunity for NBC, CNN, Post, etc. to roast one of their own. Get some credibility back.