'24 UT ATH Davis Andrews (Utah Verbal '26)

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Athlete/Safety
American Fork, UT
American Fork HS

Measurements
Ht: 6'2"
Wt: 190

Ratings
247: :s::s::s: 84 Rating, #115 ATH
247 Comp: :s::s::s:
Rivals: :s::s::s:
ESPN:
On3: :s::s::s: 89 Rating,#37 ATH
On3 Cons: :s::s::s: 85.50 Cons, #55 ATH, #648 OA

Offers
Notre Dame
Arizona
BYU
Colorado
Nevada
Stanford
Utah
Utah State
-------------- Since ND
Tennessee
Wazzu
Cal
SDSU
UCLA
Northwestern
ASU


 

Crazy Balki

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In a year where the ND beat has seemingly been consistently taking it on the chin, no person has done a better job of trashing their credibility than Loy.

The past few years of building his credibility back up has seemingly been undone.
 

EvilleIrish

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In a year where the ND beat has seemingly been consistently taking it on the chin, no person has done a better job of trashing their credibility than Loy.

The past few years of building his credibility back up has seemingly been undone.
I think he has good intentions but he has been brutal.
 

ColinKSU

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In a year where the ND beat has seemingly been consistently taking it on the chin, no person has done a better job of trashing their credibility than Loy.

The past few years of building his credibility back up has seemingly been undone.
Just L after L after L this cycle for Loy.
 

calvegas04

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The staff isn't bringing in any top recruits, who else is he going to report on?
 

Chicago Domer

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Definitely need to start referring to Losses as Loy’s. It’s almost too perfect
I think Loy is terrific. He’s the only one going out on a limb. I could care less about the guys who put in a prediction at the last minute when everyone knows who a guy is choosing. Their job is to prognosticate to some degree. He does this well. I greatly enjoy the game, especially when it’s boring, with no real meaningful activity.
 

NDFAN2008

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Anyone remember Loys 10-12 predictions he put in after our first big visit weekend lol how many of those guys are coming here?
 

notredomer23

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Anyone remember Loys 10-12 predictions he put in after our first big visit weekend lol how many of those guys are coming here?

Styles Prescod- Commit
Bryce Young- Commit
Brauntae Johnson- Commit
Justin Scott- OSU'd
Payton Pierce- Laurenitis'd
Jacob Smith- Passed
Jerod Smith- Passed

Loy's got his problems (as seen in the Davis Andrews update), but I appreciate that Loy uses the Crystal Ball as it's intended and not exclusively when a recruit gives a silent. Prescod, Young, and Johnson were clearly projection picks. Nate Roberts he had in April. Loghan Thomas prior to his visit. Guerby Lambert back in October. Sure the misses catch him some flack, but the concept of the crystal ball needs to go away to begin with.
 

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I’ve been saying for years the only time to pay attention to Loy is when he picks someone else to win a recruit. Always right then
 

NDMatt91

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Should we be talking about all Loy’s losses or Freeman’s?
Serious question.
People seem to be more upset with Loy getting predictions wrong than Freeman losing recruiting battles.
Yep. Loy is simply reporting what he’s being told. It’s not his fault that the staff isn’t great at reading the room and misses out on guys they’re confident in landing. I suspect KVA will be the latest example.
 

BeauBenken

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Why are we spending a bunch of time talking about Loy in Davis Andrews' thread?
 

NDMatt91

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Why are we spending a bunch of time talking about Loy in Davis Andrews' thread?
It looks like Loy had an article hyping up a big 2024 target that is visiting soon and it's Andrews. People find it funny because he won't be on campus until 2026 and since he's from Utah, it's entirely possible that if he signs with ND he changes his mind in the next 2 years and enrolls at Utah or BYU.
 

CanadalovesND

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In a year where the ND beat has seemingly been consistently taking it on the chin, no person has done a better job of trashing their credibility than Loy.

The past few years of building his credibility back up has seemingly been undone.

Loy was the only one that stayed on the “Tae Johnson to ND” train after his junior day prediction in January.
 

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Loy has his flaws, but he nowhere near the worst on the beat. Hell, one could argue he's had a better cycle than ISD.

Not Loy's fault the staff hasn't closed. He reports what he hears. Which is from the staff..
 

Luckylucci

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going to lol if he knows something others don't and that Andrews is going to stay in 2024
He keeps reporting that Andrews is taking the mission so not much of a chance to say told you so when he's just saying what everyone else is. Though I'm sure he'll try.
 

Huntr

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I think the issue to be more critical of is his unwarranted sensationalism. He's kind of shotgun with his cb's, but talking about Andrews as a "huge target" for ND is something else.

Maybe that's how it's put to him from ND staff, but it's an inaccurate description.

Not that my opinion matters, I don't pay that dude.
 

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I think the issue to be more critical of is his unwarranted sensationalism. He's kind of shotgun with his cb's, but talking about Andrews as a "huge target" for ND is something else.

Maybe that's how it's put to him from ND staff, but it's an inaccurate description.

Not that my opinion matters, I don't pay that dude.
Why is it an inaccurate description?

I’ve heard from multiple people I trust that Andrews was a “take no matter what” kid for ND.
ND has 3 Safties already & Andrews was the one they were saving the 4th spot for.

You might not think he’s that good, but I can assure you that Marcus Freeman thinks he is that good. This kid is on ND’s board because of Marcus Freeman.
That would make him a “huge target” for ND, when he is the Head Coach’s guy.
 

Luckylucci

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Dude, c'mon. He's not going to play football at ND until 2026. It is completely and utterly inconsequential to all things Notre Dame for a very long time.
 

Reaper97

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Dude, c'mon. He's not going to play football at ND until 2026. It is completely and utterly inconsequential to all things Notre Dame for a very long time.
That’s an argument to have with Marcus Freeman, not me, or Loy.

ND holds Davis Andrews on some high pedestal.
So if a ND coach tells Loy that Andrews is their top guy, regardless if you or I agree with that, then that’s what Loy will, and should, report.
He can’t just ignore the actual coaches at ND & post what fans perceive.
 
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