'24 UT ATH Davis Andrews (Utah Verbal '26)

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Athlete/Safety
American Fork, UT
American Fork HS

Measurements
Ht: 6'2"
Wt: 190

Ratings
247: :s::s::s: 84 Rating, #115 ATH
247 Comp: :s::s::s:
Rivals: :s::s::s:
ESPN:
On3: :s::s::s: 89 Rating,#37 ATH
On3 Cons: :s::s::s: 85.50 Cons, #55 ATH, #648 OA

Offers
Notre Dame
Arizona
BYU
Colorado
Nevada
Stanford
Utah
Utah State
-------------- Since ND
Tennessee
Wazzu
Cal
SDSU
UCLA
Northwestern
ASU


 

Rocketman84

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And he won't even be on the roster until 2026 at the earliest. And that's assuming he doesn't decide to go to BYU or Utah at some point on his mission.

He keeps reporting that Andrews is taking the mission so not much of a chance to say told you so when he's just saying what everyone else is. Though I'm sure he'll try.
Still trying to figure out how in a year where one of the best Mormon recruits and FASTEST one ever was available at a position of need (Gatlin Bair) we outdid ourselves again by pressing for a Chris Badger replica who's not even the best player NOR Safety in Utah, Badger was ranked about 275-300 spots higher as a Prep player🤷🤷 you can't seriously get paid to make decisions like this?! Can you?
 

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Still trying to figure out how in a year where one of the best Mormon recruits and FASTEST one ever was available at a position of need (Gatlin Bair) we outdid ourselves again by pressing for a Chris Badger replica who's not even the best player NOR Safety in Utah, Badger was ranked about 275-300 spots higher as a Prep player🤷🤷 you can't seriously get paid to make decisions like this?! Can you?
I really don't get the notion of Andrews being a Chris Badger replica. Because they're white, mormon safeties?

Their highlights are nothing alike. Andrews has a MUCH higher ceiling, is longer, more athletic and better in coverage.

ND's staff has shown already multiple times that they don't give a crap where Andrew Ivins or Charles Power rank a guy, and they shouldn't. The composite means nothing when you have those two hacks making up a huge chunk of the overall composite scores.

Keep in mind, if we were going by this logic, ND shouldn't have taken Bryce Young and Cole Mullins over the Smith twins. After all, both Smith twins are within the composite 250, while Young isn't even in the top 300, and Mullins isn't even in the top 600. Yet, it doesn't take a genius to see why ND chose them over the Smith twins. The film don't lie. It says Mullins and Young > Jerod and Jacob, and Power and Ivins are incompetent hacks.
 

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I really don't get the notion of Andrews being a Chris Badger replica. Because they're white, mormon safeties?

Their highlights are nothing alike. Andrews has a MUCH higher ceiling, is longer, more athletic and better in coverage.

ND's staff has shown already multiple times that they don't give a crap where Andrew Ivins or Charles Power rank a guy, and they shouldn't. The composite means nothing when you have those two hacks making up a huge chunk of the overall composite scores.

Keep in mind, if we were going by this logic, ND shouldn't have taken Bryce Young and Cole Mullins over the Smith twins. After all, both Smith twins are within the composite 250, while Young isn't even in the top 300, and Mullins isn't even in the top 600. Yet, it doesn't take a genius to see why ND chose them over the Smith twins. The film don't lie. It says Mullins and Young > Jerod and Jacob, and Power and Ivins are incompetent hacks.
Andrews is longer by a tad but he and Badger are nearly the same size coming out of HS 6'0 190 to 6'1 1/2 190 and Badger was a better player against better comp as a Prep not to mention a much better player against the run and tackler. Andrews might be a bit better in coverage but it's hard to say at this point and just seems odd considering how many other better prospects were out there.

This isn't solely about rankings but the caliber of recruit you take over others is alarming and the reason they didn't take the Smith twins is because they liked one alot better than the other and they want to play together. Not to mention Young is legacy and has a seriously high upside with his size and will end up as a 4* guy and Mullins as well being a key cog on one of the best Prep teams at the highest level in GA. The Smith twins are really good players but right now rely more on athleticism and strength as opposed to technique (like many Prep players) interested to see how they develop at Michigan.
 

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So when is he going to pick a school?

Also, I’d like to thank manti for not going on a 2 year mission
 

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I’m always a little torn when it comes to guys we’re recruiting taking a mission. While the ND fan in me understands the negative implications, the Christian in me gives these kids a lot of credit for adhering to one of the core tenets of their faith. I can’t say in the same situation I’d have that same conviction.
 

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I’m always a little torn when it comes to guys we’re recruiting taking a mission. While the ND fan in me understands the negative implications, the Christian in me gives these kids a lot of credit for adhering to one of the core tenets of their faith. I can’t say in the same situation I’d have that same conviction.
I give them a lot of credit too. But I’m not always sure we need to give them a scholarship over someone else who’s more likely to actually play football for and graduate from Notre Dame, which mission kids rarely seem to do in the end.

But, not my call. I understand why we do and it’s an admirable quality of Notre Dame’s.
 

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So when is he going to pick a school?

Also, I’d like to thank manti for not going on a 2 year mission
From what I remember Manti did do some sort of mission but it involved some work for a local LDS church in Indiana on weekends/offseason
 

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I give them a lot of credit too. But I’m not always sure we need to give them a scholarship over someone else who’s more likely to actually play football for and graduate from Notre Dame, which mission kids rarely seem to do in the end.

But, not my call. I understand why we do and it’s an admirable quality of Notre Dame’s.
I don't think they count vs the scholarship limit while they're on the mission. And if they come off the mission and decide to go somewhere else its the same as if we never had them. The coaches should treat someone like Andrews as a 2026 recruit in their internal counting.

BTW Prister and O'Malley went off topic on their Podcast today and after comparing the two predicted that Andrews and Luke Talich will both be on scholarship at ND. Didn't say how soon.
 

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Loy is saying he thinks it’s more likely he picks Utah, which like … yeah, fine. As much as I love bitching about O’Leary and his recruiting, I’m not going to lose sleep over a BYU 2026 signee going somewhere else.
 

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Loy is saying he thinks it’s more likely he picks Utah, which like … yeah, fine. As much as I love bitching about O’Leary and his recruiting, I’m not going to lose sleep over a BYU 2026 signee going somewhere else.
I'm fine with that. If you're not a Manti or KVA talent then I don't want to take a player who will be taking a 2 year mission.
 

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It is is Andrews best interest to go to Utah. ND has had two players take LDS missions in the last fifteen years. I couldn't tell you how much Utah has had, but it's likely they've had the most outside of BYU. Their program is better designed for it.
 

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It is is Andrews best interest to go to Utah. ND has had two players take LDS missions in the last fifteen years. I couldn't tell you how much Utah has had, but it's likely they've had the most outside of BYU. Their program is better designed for it.
Utah had 25 players who returned from missions on their roster a couple of years ago. It was the second-most outside of BYU and I’d imagine that number is still somewhere in that range.

I’d imagine if you have a number of kids on missions any given cycle, it’s a lot easier to build a roster than it is to rely on one kid who may or may not return to the not LDS-affiliated school in Indiana.
 

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If he doesn't come here we will need another safety in this class or they need to go hit the portal again
 

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If he doesn't come here we will need another safety in this class or they need to go hit the portal again


The portal is probably better. Our safety recruiting has don’t a lot. Might be a easier to get someone who has played a little.
 

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our safety recruiting is on par with a middling power 5 team. Not a team with playoff aspirations
 

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our safety recruiting is on par with a middling power 5 team. Not a team with playoff aspirations

I beat this one to death over the summer, but Tae Johnson is the only thing saving O'Leary at this point. He's not a good recruiter. I'd be surprised, and annoyed, if he is retained this offseason.
 

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I beat this one to death over the summer, but Tae Johnson is the only thing saving O'Leary at this point. He's not a good recruiter. I'd be surprised, and annoyed, if he is retained this offseason.
But all the recruits rave about him…
 

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I beat this one to death over the summer, but Tae Johnson is the only thing saving O'Leary at this point. He's not a good recruiter. I'd be surprised, and annoyed, if he is retained this offseason.
Can't really blame him for Bowen or Hillman both were out of his control
 

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Can't really blame him for Bowen or Hillman both were out of his control
I agree, but he basically struck out in 2022 and in the 2024 class he’s betting on guys like TBP and Urlacher. I actually like Urlacher but I’m not sold that he’s a natural safety.
 

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I beat this one to death over the summer, but Tae Johnson is the only thing saving O'Leary at this point. He's not a good recruiter. I'd be surprised, and annoyed, if he is retained this offseason.
My biggest disappointment is he could get carter ready to take over Henderson and possibly brown. Henderson is not good at
All, brown is very very assignment correct but can’t make a play. That isn’t just Ohio state.
 

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They’re definitely going to need a Safety from the portal. IMO, they’re gonna need a QB, DE (that can actually rush the passer), and DT as well. The frustrating thing is that since they aren’t paying elite recruits they’re sticking to buying grad transfers. If that’s the case, then they should’ve gotten the Sam Hartman of Safety, DE, DT, etc. Why only spend big at one position (QB)? They should be getting the top grad transfer available at every position of need. Braden Fiske, for example, should be on this team right now.
 

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Can't really blame him for Bowen or Hillman both were out of his control

IMO, the best way to grade him is who’s on the roster. Outside of Watts, his group is very mid.

The difference in Mickens’ group and O’Leary’s group is honestly laughable.
 

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Commitment date set for 10-2. Conflicting reporting here as Loy said he doesn't feel good. IB reporting that they think ND is clear favorite and ND feels really good.
Am I actually going to side with Loy on this one?
 

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My biggest disappointment is he could get carter ready to take over Henderson and possibly brown. Henderson is not good at
All, brown is very very assignment correct but can’t make a play. That isn’t just Ohio state.
I agree on Brown. Don’t get me wrong - Seems like a great dude. I will never forget that dropped interception on the final drive vs Ohio State. In 30 years I will remember watching that and the transition from joy to anger. You will never have an easier opportunity. I still cannot freaking believe he dropped that.
 
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