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Oh son! You don't even know what OU is about to become after Venables has weeded out the rest of the leftover garbage and gets his own players on the field. His system works just fine, but you can't run a real system if you don't have the players. The best high school QB in America is on his way and the defensive talent is coming in without even having to pay kids. Ya'll can judge OU on this $#!+show of a season all you want, but trust me, We're comin!

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Oh son! You don't even know what OU is about to become after Venables has weeded out the rest of the leftover garbage and gets his own players on the field. His system works just fine, but you can't run a real system if you don't have the players. The best high school QB in America is on his way and the defensive talent is coming in without even having to pay kids. Ya'll can judge OU on this $#!+show of a season all you want, but trust me, We're comin!

Read this article. Especially where it says, “There is no team in the Big 12 not named Oklahoma or Texas who is even three strong classes away from joining the list.”

Coach Venables was getting out coached all year even with a massive talent gap at his advantage. That is why they sucked this year. No other reason.
 

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Oh son! You don't even know what OU is about to become after Venables has weeded out the rest of the leftover garbage and gets his own players on the field. His system works just fine, but you can't run a real system if you don't have the players. The best high school QB in America is on his way and the defensive talent is coming in without even having to pay kids. Ya'll can judge OU on this $#!+show of a season all you want, but trust me, We're comin!



Who the fuck is this jagoff?
 

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Oh son! You don't even know what OU is about to become after Venables has weeded out the rest of the leftover garbage and gets his own players on the field. His system works just fine, but you can't run a real system if you don't have the players. The best high school QB in America is on his way and the defensive talent is coming in without even having to pay kids. Ya'll can judge OU on this $#!+show of a season all you want, but trust me, We're comin!
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What inspires this confidence in Venables? That OU had one of the most talented teams in the conference and lost 49-0 to an average Texas team in the big rivalry? Or was it the defense really buying into the system and giving up 51 points at the end of the end of season to Texas Tech?
 
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Read this article. Especially where it says, “There is no team in the Big 12 not named Oklahoma or Texas who is even three strong classes away from joining the list.”

Coach Venables was getting out coached all year even with a massive talent gap at his advantage. That is why they sucked this year. No other reason.
This a million percent. The post above sounds exactly like what the Sooner staff would say to try to sucker good, honest people like the Bowens. I sure hope they see through the smokescreen and realize OU is bad because they got out coached. You cab bring in all the talent in the world, but if they are coached poorly, they aren't gonna look great.

Aside from that and the value of an ND degree, the difference for me is when I hear a young man speak that plays for ND compared to a place like OU. If you want to challenge yourself to become the best possible man you can be on and off the field, ND is for you. If you are just interested in having fun and not interested in becoming the best man you can be, I can see why Oklahoma may be appealing, other than the fact that this coaching staff isn't good and will average 7-5 over the next four years until they are shown the door, of course.
 

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Who the fuck is this
Who the fuck is this jagoff?

Honestly this sounds to me JUST like a recruiting pitch from Oklahoma to cover up for their crappy season. For all we know, this could be someone from a recruit's circle to come test the temperature over here. I think it is always best practice to answer with logic rather than alienation until it becomes apparent. You do you, of course, but I would rather help some people see the truth rather than just show them the door. After all, that's what separates ND. We value education rather than just fluff.
 

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Oh son! You don't even know what OU is about to become after Venables has weeded out the rest of the leftover garbage and gets his own players on the field. His system works just fine, but you can't run a real system if you don't have the players. The best high school QB in America is on his way and the defensive talent is coming in without even having to pay kids. Ya'll can judge OU on this $#!+show of a season all you want, but trust me, We're comin!
Bless your heart…
 

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Oh son! You don't even know what OU is about to become after Venables has weeded out the rest of the leftover garbage and gets his own players on the field. His system works just fine, but you can't run a real system if you don't have the players. The best high school QB in America is on his way and the defensive talent is coming in without even having to pay kids. Ya'll can judge OU on this $#!+show of a season all you want, but trust me, We're comin!

I remember the last time a Venable's team got the "best high school QB in America"--DJ Uiagalelei--we definitely couldn't have beaten them without him.

And Alabama and LSU just showed everyone what's coming from the SEC West from here on out: 2-3 losses per year minimum. But I'm sure Oklahoma will move straight to the top of the heap.
 
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I remember the last time a Venable's team got the "best high school QB in America"--DJ Uiagalelei--we definitely couldn't have beaten them without him.

And Alabama and LSU just showed everyone what's coming from the SEC West from here on out: 2-3 losses per year minimum. But I'm sure Oklahoma will move straight to the top of the heap.
I remember when a first year OC Rees beat Venable's defense in South Bend despite having a glorified TE at WR, a Northwestern transfer as WR# 2, and a coverted QB in the Slot.
 

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Yeah, I just don't really think so. I mean, I can totally see why their staff would try to spin it to recruits this way, but lets take a look at it. They aren't going to be beating Alabama. They are going to lose most, if not all to LSU, Sark is better than Venebles, so Texas will likely beat them more times than not. Kiffin is better than Venebles, so I see Mississippi beating them more times than not. In complete honesty, they strike me in the range of Miss. St. and Arkansas. I could see them being about on equal par to them. So many 7-5 type seasons, with an occasional 9-3 mixed in.

Once again, I can see the Oklahoma staff trying to spin that Riley took all their talent to LA and once they reload they will be competing for the title, but lets be realistic. If you watch Oklahoma, their problem isn't that the talent left. They play in the Big 12. They are still way more talented than any team they are playing. The problem is coaching. The are very poor fundamentally. If you coach at all, you can tell they aren't coached well. The fundamentals are very poor. This isn't because they just inherited the program. Well coached teams are the opposite. In year one you can tell they are well coached and will improve because you can see their fundamentals. Poorly coached teams have bad fundamentals all year.

If the coaches are trying to tell players like Peyton that the reason they are struggling is because Riley took their talent to LA, but they will be good when they get "their" players in. That's just a falsehood. The reality is that staff isn't very good at coaching. Hence, usually around 7-5, 6-6 under this staff for Oklahoma for the next 4-5 years until the Sooners move on.
Sorry man, but that's just wishful thinking on your part. It's okay, we'll just see how it all plays out, but the chances of OU not getting much better are pretty slim. People are thrown off because of what OU had been doing before but they haven't actually thought about just how depleted this team was when this staff took over or the fact that running a new system with players that were already taught one way is not all that easy.

People also forget that OU wasn't even as good as their record showed last year with Riley. They went 10-2 but could've easily been 6-6. And that's with about 15-20 good players still on the roster making contributions. Imagine taking over a team that lost about 95% of it's real talent off a team that couldn't even defend at all or move the ball efficiently on offense either. Venables should be given a medal of honor.

You can say these coaches aren't making a difference, but you have to remember, these are not their guys. They're a bunch of kids that were recruited by the previous staff to play a very soft, finesse style of ball. And that doesn't line up with what Venables is trying to do. Even the strength and conditioning program now is on another level from what it was before, and most of these guys haven't been able to adjust to it because they were never asked to work that hard before. You can't make chicken salad out of chicken you know what.

Most of these kids would not be playing for Venables at Clemson and they certainly wouldn't be on the roster at any top tier program. They absolutely ARE leftovers, nothing more and nothing less. That's why they have to get their own players on the field, and when they do you're gonna see the difference, trust me. This staff is working their butts off to get good players and were not even buying kids like Texas, A&M, Georgia, and Notre Dame 😉. Nobody ever complained about the job Venables was doing when he had real talent. So let's just see what happens. And yes, he was just a DC before and he's a head coach now. It won't matter, trust me.
 

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I for one hope OU destroys the SEC... and yes, I think that is a possible outcome long term,... they can do so without Bowen however.
 

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Sorry man, but that's just wishful thinking on your part. It's okay, we'll just see how it all plays out, but the chances of OU not getting much better are pretty slim. People are thrown off because of what OU had been doing before but they haven't actually thought about just how depleted this team was when this staff took over or the fact that running a new system with players that were already taught one way is not all that easy.

People also forget that OU wasn't even as good as their record showed last year with Riley. They went 10-2 but could've easily been 6-6. And that's with about 15-20 good players still on the roster making contributions. Imagine taking over a team that lost about 95% of it's real talent off a team that couldn't even defend at all or move the ball efficiently on offense either. Venables should be given a medal of honor.

You can say these coaches aren't making a difference, but you have to remember, these are not their guys. They're a bunch of kids that were recruited by the previous staff to play a very soft, finesse style of ball. And that doesn't line up with what Venables is trying to do. Even the strength and conditioning program now is on another level from what it was before, and most of these guys haven't been able to adjust to it because they were never asked to work that hard before. You can't make chicken salad out of chicken you know what.

Most of these kids would not be playing for Venables at Clemson and they certainly wouldn't be on the roster at any top tier program. They absolutely ARE leftovers, nothing more and nothing less. That's why they have to get their own players on the field, and when they do you're gonna see the difference, trust me. This staff is working their butts off to get good players and were not even buying kids like Texas, A&M, Georgia, and Notre Dame 😉. Nobody ever complained about the job Venables was doing when he had real talent. So let's just see what happens. And yes, he was just a DC before and he's a head coach now. It won't matter, trust me.
OK. I mean, maybe, sure, guy.
 

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Sorry man, but that's just wishful thinking on your part. It's okay, we'll just see how it all plays out, but the chances of OU not getting much better are pretty slim. People are thrown off because of what OU had been doing before but they haven't actually thought about just how depleted this team was when this staff took over or the fact that running a new system with players that were already taught one way is not all that easy.

People also forget that OU wasn't even as good as their record showed last year with Riley. They went 10-2 but could've easily been 6-6. And that's with about 15-20 good players still on the roster making contributions. Imagine taking over a team that lost about 95% of it's real talent off a team that couldn't even defend at all or move the ball efficiently on offense either. Venables should be given a medal of honor.

You can say these coaches aren't making a difference, but you have to remember, these are not their guys. They're a bunch of kids that were recruited by the previous staff to play a very soft, finesse style of ball. And that doesn't line up with what Venables is trying to do. Even the strength and conditioning program now is on another level from what it was before, and most of these guys haven't been able to adjust to it because they were never asked to work that hard before. You can't make chicken salad out of chicken you know what.

Most of these kids would not be playing for Venables at Clemson and they certainly wouldn't be on the roster at any top tier program. They absolutely ARE leftovers, nothing more and nothing less. That's why they have to get their own players on the field, and when they do you're gonna see the difference, trust me. This staff is working their butts off to get good players and were not even buying kids like Texas, A&M, Georgia, and Notre Dame 😉. Nobody ever complained about the job Venables was doing when he had real talent. So let's just see what happens. And yes, he was just a DC before and he's a head coach now. It won't matter, trust me.

We'll see is right and fair. Anyone can rise and fall with good/bad coaching...just look at Alabama. One thing is certain though with the OU move to the SEC, your road anywhere is gonna be so much harder than when you guys and Texas laughed off the rest of the Big 12.
 

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Sorry man, but that's just wishful thinking on your part. It's okay, we'll just see how it all plays out, but the chances of OU not getting much better are pretty slim. People are thrown off because of what OU had been doing before but they haven't actually thought about just how depleted this team was when this staff took over or the fact that running a new system with players that were already taught one way is not all that easy.

People also forget that OU wasn't even as good as their record showed last year with Riley. They went 10-2 but could've easily been 6-6. And that's with about 15-20 good players still on the roster making contributions. Imagine taking over a team that lost about 95% of it's real talent off a team that couldn't even defend at all or move the ball efficiently on offense either. Venables should be given a medal of honor.

You can say these coaches aren't making a difference, but you have to remember, these are not their guys. They're a bunch of kids that were recruited by the previous staff to play a very soft, finesse style of ball. And that doesn't line up with what Venables is trying to do. Even the strength and conditioning program now is on another level from what it was before, and most of these guys haven't been able to adjust to it because they were never asked to work that hard before. You can't make chicken salad out of chicken you know what.

Most of these kids would not be playing for Venables at Clemson and they certainly wouldn't be on the roster at any top tier program. They absolutely ARE leftovers, nothing more and nothing less. That's why they have to get their own players on the field, and when they do you're gonna see the difference, trust me. This staff is working their butts off to get good players and were not even buying kids like Texas, A&M, Georgia, and Notre Dame 😉. Nobody ever complained about the job Venables was doing when he had real talent. So let's just see what happens. And yes, he was just a DC before and he's a head coach now. It won't matter, trust me.
Your 247 Oklahoma beat writer literally had a post about Bowen visiting with his Dad to talk solely about NIL. Lolzzzzz
 

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Sorry man, but that's just wishful thinking on your part. It's okay, we'll just see how it all plays out, but the chances of OU not getting much better are pretty slim. People are thrown off because of what OU had been doing before but they haven't actually thought about just how depleted this team was when this staff took over or the fact that running a new system with players that were already taught one way is not all that easy.

People also forget that OU wasn't even as good as their record showed last year with Riley. They went 10-2 but could've easily been 6-6. And that's with about 15-20 good players still on the roster making contributions. Imagine taking over a team that lost about 95% of it's real talent off a team that couldn't even defend at all or move the ball efficiently on offense either. Venables should be given a medal of honor.

You can say these coaches aren't making a difference, but you have to remember, these are not their guys. They're a bunch of kids that were recruited by the previous staff to play a very soft, finesse style of ball. And that doesn't line up with what Venables is trying to do. Even the strength and conditioning program now is on another level from what it was before, and most of these guys haven't been able to adjust to it because they were never asked to work that hard before. You can't make chicken salad out of chicken you know what.

Most of these kids would not be playing for Venables at Clemson and they certainly wouldn't be on the roster at any top tier program. They absolutely ARE leftovers, nothing more and nothing less. That's why they have to get their own players on the field, and when they do you're gonna see the difference, trust me. This staff is working their butts off to get good players and were not even buying kids like Texas, A&M, Georgia, and Notre Dame 😉. Nobody ever complained about the job Venables was doing when he had real talent. So let's just see what happens. And yes, he was just a DC before and he's a head coach now. It won't matter, trust me.
This is hilarious.
 

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I won't sit here and claim that you are very wrong, nobody knows for sure. One thing I feel I am very, very good at (it has won me a ton of games) is breaking down film. And I can tell you with certainty (whether you choose to believe it or not) that Oklahoma was not very well coached this year. And that had nothing to do with talent. You can't blame poor fundamentals and scheme on the last staff. I can take kids with poor fundamentals and by the end of the year, you see DRASTIC improvements and they are playing good fundamental ball. And I have high school kids. I have watched Oklahoma at the beginning, middle, and end of the season, and without a doubt, they are not very well coached. If they get better athletes, they will just tackle poorly faster or get out of position quicker. Hate to be the bearer of bad news, and I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I don't think I'm wrong on this. If you want to see a well coached team, watch Clark Lea's defenses at ND. Those were some well coached defenses, even if not the most athletic.
 

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