2024 College Football Playoffs

[GreenGemsOmally]

On another note, Freeman looked pissed on that video of the team upon their announcement. I hope he & the team are just that..pissed

Is there a link for this? I'd love to see it.

 

[IrishTusker]

I’m sure it’s been said but Indiana optically will be the worst potential opponent for ND. Negates almost all of the home field advantage.

Only if ND fans sell out.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

SOS deserves more context b/c the baseline is unfairly set w/ pre-season polls. Here’s what this year’s pre-season poll looked like:

1	Georgia (46)	1,532
2	Ohio State (15)	1,490
3	Oregon (1)	1,403
4	Texas	1,386
5	Alabama	1,260
6	Ole Miss	1,189
7	Notre Dame	1,122
8	Penn State	1,060
9	Michigan	995
10	Florida State	971
11	Missouri	927
12	Utah	887
13	LSU	804
14	Clemson	689
15	Tennessee	629
16	Oklahoma	566
17	Oklahoma State	538
18	Kansas State	526
19	Miami (FL)	492
20	Texas A&M	292
21	Arizona	237
22	Kansas	231
23	Southern Cal	172
24	North Carolina State	171
25	Iowa	140

Bama, Ole Miss, Missouri, LSU, OU, aTm. All SEC teams. All overrated as proven by the final poll.

Kentucky had one conference win…over the mighty Ole Miss Rebels who have assured us they should be in CFP. Same KY that got boatraced in their rivalry game by ”ACC also ran” Louisville.

Bama lost to Vandy who lost to 3-9 Georgia State. Vandy is the one program that even SEC sycophants dismiss when announcing their conference strength. TBF, I think we have to give Vandy credit this year so I don’t think that loss would‘ve disqualified Bama. But losing by 3 TDs to a 5-6 B12…err SEC Team in November is what cooked Bama. It wasn’t a last second FG…It was a blow out when a team is supposed to be building on their CFP resume. But shouldn’t matter b/c “y’all just don’t know the grind of the SEC”. GTFO with that. Again OU was a B12 team less than a year ago. So was Texas BTW.

LSU lost to 6-6 Southern Cal who at last check was not in SEC & I‘m told by non-ND fans that they’re a joke of a team that no one should lose to. I guess LSU was tired of that SEC grind that led into the first game of the season.

UO HC Dan Lanning has a chance to change (or level) the narrative. His team is in the Pacific NW yet they had to travel cross country four times to secure the #1 seed. Tell those SEC schools to travel that far that much in a given season. I don’t care who the opponent is, your players are still adversely affected by the time change and travel…yes even 18-23 year olds.

The common refrain from SEC fans is “who would you pick to win in the following matchups”:
Bama vs SMU
Bama vs ASU
Bama vs BSU
Bama vs PSU
Bama vs ND
Bama vs IU

SEC is undefeated in hypotheticals & Vegas odds are always correct

Can’t have it both ways while proudly pronouncing your team playing the toughest conference of the past two decades but then whine when you aren’t afforded more mulligans b/c you’re team turns out to be not as invincible (3+ losses) as you claim.

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

I firmly believe ND is the best team in this playoff.

 

[Katzenboyer]

I’m sure it’s been said but Indiana optically will be the worst potential opponent for ND. Negates almost all of the home field advantage.

But doesn't negate the most important factor -- ND is the far better team.

 

[stlnd01]

I’m sure it’s been said but Indiana optically will be the worst potential opponent for ND. Negates almost all of the home field advantage.

Nah. It’ll still be a huge home night game. Last year Ohio State, or at least USC level. We may have been overhyping the weather part anyway.

 

[N_D_Fighting_Irish]

I’m sure it’s been said but Indiana optically will be the worst potential opponent for ND. Negates almost all of the home field advantage.

I agree. Worst possible match up. Refs will side with the underdogs which will help Indiana given how their Oline holds a lot.

 

[DontQuestionMyPorpoise]

Cignetti on Notre Dame matchup -

 

[MrNimbus]

 

[NDMatt91]

Cignetti on Notre Dame matchup -

Such a hardo

 

[NewEnglandGuy]

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Rich Eisen. A Michigan guy. Totally gets it.

 

[ACamp1900]

The backup wasn’t ready to play in that game but still led them to a win. He has weeks to get ready now.

Sometimes not being ready helps,… no time to think about it

 

[T Town Tommy]

If the committee values SOS and then puts in a team with the 60th ranked schedule and zero wins against top 25 teams over the 9th ranked SOS and three wins over current top 25 teams they sure didn’t show it.

End of the day, if this is how they are going to choose playoff teams, then it’s bad for CFB. There will be plenty of teams trying to cancel really good OOC games and just schedule down. It’s just bad for marquee matchups and bad for a team like Notre Dame. Who wants to play a perennial top 10-15 team anymore if this is the criteria that’s going to be used?

 

[arrowryan]

If the committee values SOS and then puts in a team with the 60th ranked schedule and zero wins against top 25 teams over the 9th ranked SOS and three wins over current top 25 teams they sure didn’t show it.

End of the day, if this is how they are going to choose playoff teams, then it’s bad for CFB. There will be plenty of teams trying to cancel really good OOC games and just schedule down. It’s just bad for marquee matchups and bad for a team like Notre Dame. Who wants to play a perennial top 10-15 team anymore if this is the criteria that’s going to be used?

The games, and the results, have to matter.

Alabama’s crown jewel OOC game was 5-7 Wisconsin.

 

[wizards8507]

James Franklin can eat a Costco size bag of dicks.

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

James Franklin can eat a Costco size bag of dicks.

Veiled shot at ND heard loudly.

 

[T Town Tommy]

The games, and the results, have to matter.

Alabama’s crown jewel OOC game was 5-7 Wisconsin.

That’s ridiculous and you know it. They have more top 25 wins than almost half the teams in the playoff COMBINED. That has to matter. But as I said, the criteria used by the committee is bad for CFB, bad for my team, and bad for the Irish in the future.

 

[greyhammer90]

If the committee values SOS and then puts in a team with the 60th ranked schedule and zero wins against top 25 teams over the 9th ranked SOS and three wins over current top 25 teams they sure didn’t show it.

End of the day, if this is how they are going to choose playoff teams, then it’s bad for CFB. There will be plenty of teams trying to cancel really good OOC games and just schedule down. It’s just bad for marquee matchups and bad for a team like Notre Dame. Who wants to play a perennial top 10-15 team anymore if this is the criteria that’s going to be used?

Really dont understand this argument. Alabama went 4-0 against their OOC schedule (which was a soft schedule, 49th, 83rd, 102nd and unranked FCS). Nothing about Bama's scheduling affected this. They weren't hurt for "choosing hard" here. They were elimimated because they lost to bad teams in their own conference to the point that you couldn't call it a fluke anymore.

If you have an issue with your conference schedule being overly taxing, get Greg Sankey on the phone. He's the one that created this unwieldy super conference that cares more about money than sense.

 

[thekid33]

They need to implement the following changes:

1) Ditch the auto byes for the Top 4 ranked conference champs. Guarantee the top 5 ranked conference champs a spot - no more or less than that.

2) Seed the field as they are ranked.

3) Reseed after each round

4) Tell the bowls to fuck off. On campus games for Round 1 and the Quarterfinals.

 

[arrowryan]

That’s ridiculous and you know it. They have more top 25 wins than almost half the teams in the playoff COMBINED. That has to matter. But as I said, the criteria used by the committee is bad for CFB, bad for my team, and bad for the Irish in the future.

I can’t argue the fact that they beat 3 top 25 teams. That was a great accomplishment by Alabama.

You brought up that teams will stop scheduling tough OOC games. I just don’t see the correlation there because Alabama didn’t have a tough OOC game.

Alabama’s performances against Vandy and Oklahoma did them in, not a OOC loss against a tough team.

 

[Irish4life]

If the committee values SOS and then puts in a team with the 60th ranked schedule and zero wins against top 25 teams over the 9th ranked SOS and three wins over current top 25 teams they sure didn’t show it.

End of the day, if this is how they are going to choose playoff teams, then it’s bad for CFB. There will be plenty of teams trying to cancel really good OOC games and just schedule down. It’s just bad for marquee matchups and bad for a team like Notre Dame. Who wants to play a perennial top 10-15 team anymore if this is the criteria that’s going to be used?

I understand the take, but at the same time Alabama isn't not in the CFP because of their OOC schedule. Same can be said for South Carolina and Ole Miss. If Alabama doesn't lose to Vandy they're in. If South Carolina wins @ Bama or vs LSU, they're in. If Ole Miss doesn't lose vs Kentucky or @ Florida....they're in. And ultimately you can't control the SOS you face.....I'm sure Bama didn't plan on their OOC road game at Wiscy being against the worst Wiscy team in 2 decades, for instance. Who knows, maybe if Wisconsin goes 8-4 or 9-3 instead of 5-7 Bama gets in.

 

[HouseofPain]

Bama shouldnt have made it this year. Fine you play some tough games but you lost a lot of bad games. This wasnt Bama's year to be in it and I feel the committee actually should be praised in not giving in to the pressure to add Bama just because they are Bama. They didnt get it done.
What if you lost 4 weak games but beat GA, TX, OSU, and Oregon. Should you be in the playoffs?

If you say yes, then there is no reason to have a playoff with anyone other than the top 5 SEC and top 5 Big 10.

 

[mrmcgrail]

Winning has to matter at some point especially when teams are dropping games against bad teams and ooc from the sec is trash

 

[T Town Tommy]

Really dont understand this argument. Alabama went 4-0 against their OOC schedule (which was a soft schedule, 49th, 83rd, 102nd and unranked FCS). Nothing about Bama's scheduling affected this. They weren't hurt for "choosing hard" here. They were elimimated because they lost to bad teams in their own conference to the point that you couldn't call it a fluke anymore.

But the 60th ranked schedule and zero top 25 wins outranks it? And then have the committee state SOS was a determining factor? The future of CFB took a huge hit today and if I were an Irish fan I would be highly concerned. Phones will be ringing wanting to cancel marquee games are probably taking place right now. And with the Irish not being in a conference the ability to schedule marquee games that they will need goes down. A one loss ND will probably make the playoffs most years but a two loss Irish team without marquee matchups to help their resume… forget it. If anything, this will push the Irish closer to joining a conference just to be competitive schedule wise.

 

[NewEnglandGuy]

AP vs college football committee seeds:

Oregon: 0 (1st for both)
Georgia: 0 (2nd for both)
Notre Dame: +4 (3rd and 7th)
Texas: +1 (4th and 5th)
Penn St: +1 (5th and 6th)
Ohio St: +2 (6th and 8th)
Tennessee: +2 (7th and 9th)
Boise State: -5 (8th and 3rd)
Indiana: +1 (9th and 10th)
Arizona State: -6 (10th and 4th)
Alabama: +2 (11th and 13th)
SMU: -1 (12th and 11th)
Clemson: -1 (13th and 12th)
South Carolina: +1 (14th and 15th)
Miami: -1 (15th and 14th)

ND has double the largest negative movement from 62 voter ranking to the seeding of a 13 person committee.

 

[wizards8507]

AP vs college football committee seeds:

Oregon: 0 (1st for both)
Georgia: 0 (2nd for both)
Notre Dame: +4 (3rd and 7th)
Texas: +1 (4th and 5th)
Penn St: +1 (5th and 6th)
Ohio St: +2 (6th and 8th)
Tennessee: +2 (7th and 9th)
Boise State: -5 (8th and 3rd)
Indiana: +1 (9th and 10th)
Arizona State: -6 (10th and 4th)
Alabama: +2 (11th and 13th)
SMU: -1 (12th and 11th)
Clemson: -1 (13th and 12th)
South Carolina: +1 (14th and 15th)
Miami: -1 (15th and 14th)

ND has double the largest negative movement from 62 voter ranking to the seeding of a 13 person committee.

The seeding isn't the committee's fault though. They have to do what they're told by the commissioners who set the playoff rules.

 

[greyhammer90]

But the 60th ranked schedule and zero top 25 wins outranks it? And then have the committee state SOS was a determining factor? The future of CFB took a huge hit today and if I were an Irish fan I would be highly concerned. Phones will be ringing wanting to cancel marquee games are probably taking place right now. And with the Irish not being in a conference the ability to schedule marquee games that they will need goes down. A one loss ND will probably make the playoffs most years but a two loss Irish team without marquee matchups to help their resume… forget it. If anything, this will push the Irish closer to joining a conference just to be competitive schedule wise.

How many games do you think Bama should have been allowed to lose before being eliminated for SMU? You're arguing about 3 losses so thats clearly not enough, should they have been able to lose a full third of their games and still get in?

 

[T-Boone]

Got to give some respect to the committee for not stiffing SMU when they would have been tempted to.

 

[mrmcgrail]

But the 60th ranked schedule and zero top 25 wins outranks it? And then have the committee state SOS was a determining factor? The future of CFB took a huge hit today and if I were an Irish fan I would be highly concerned. Phones will be ringing wanting to cancel marquee games are probably taking place right now. And with the Irish not being in a conference the ability to schedule marquee games that they will need goes down. A one loss ND will probably make the playoffs most years but a two loss Irish team without marquee matchups to help their resume… forget it. If anything, this will push the Irish closer to joining a conference just to be competitive schedule wise.

It would be one thing if bama lost to good teams they didn't they lost to two bad teams

 

[Old Man Mike]

Almost no matter what, losing three games and expecting to be in the championship mix just doesn't make sense (or "justice") to me. Unless the game gets to the point where you can't even FIND twelve two-loss-or-less-credible teams, I think that three losses out of twelve should be a show stopper (even if it was my school.) Just think about how serious anyone would take the three loss argument in a four team play-off scenario? We'd say OBVIOUSLY not champ material wouldn't we and laugh?