2024-2025 ND Basketball Thread

Irish#1

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14 points with less than 4 minutes left in the half. Ouch
 

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Team is actually imploding. Christ. Shrewsberry was a big time hire at the time too.
 

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Mark Zackery (Butler bball offer)
Tae Johnson (D1 bball offers)
Raridon (second team all-Iowa in HS)
Greathouse (key member of dominant Westlake bball team)
Matty Augustine (captain of Brunswick School bball team)
Ethan Long (All-New England basketball player)
Jadon Blair (all area/conference)
Micah Gilbert (varsity baller, dad played d1 bball)

Would this team beat the current MBB squad? (kidding but damn)
 

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Mark Zackery (Butler bball offer)
Tae Johnson (D1 bball offers)
Raridon (second team all-Iowa in HS)
Greathouse (key member of dominant Westlake bball team)
Matty Augustine (captain of Brunswick School bball team)
Ethan Long (All-New England basketball player)
Jadon Blair (all area/conference)
Micah Gilbert (varsity baller, dad played d1 bball)

Would this team beat the current MBB squad? (kidding but damn)
Dunno. Who’s coaching?
 

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Prister went scorched earth on Shrewsberry today in his Thursday Thoughts article

 

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I agree with Shrews, the program has hit rock bottom. In watching the games the players look checked out. There has been little to no improvement. My biggest complain is leadership- something you cannot coach, no player has stepped up to be a voice.

June cannot get here fast enough where the incoming class will be on campus, to me that is where the future starts. Burton has too much on his shoulders and he has no surrounding support.

With this top 5 class I want to say that the university is allowing Shrews to do more with the program and want people to say I give a damn about the Notre Dame men's basketball program.

I expected better than last season and the team seems to be moving backwards; hopefully the saying it has to get worse before it gets better applies here.
 

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That’s a start. They’ve lost a lot of these games, so to win one is some growth.
 

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JRK stepped in for Shrews and had a good game. Hit 6-6 from the line in the last minute to clinch it
 

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Lord, that last half minute was a slug through the mud. Thank the skies that the one fellow made every free throw.

And thanks that we had enough time outs to protect the baseline passer. ... uncomfortable times. Does this team ever "cruise"?
 

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Nice win for the men's team yesterday and much needed. Burton played like Burton, Tae Davis was dominant on the inside, I felt like this team rebounded, JR came through with hitting free throws. It wasn't pretty down the stretch, but a win is a win. I think Njie and Davis need to be on the court together- it gives ND big men options. With Allocco being hurt it gives Mohammed a chance for PT. Certa had a heck of a game yesterday off the bench.

I agree with Cpnd1- keep Burton!
 

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Lord, that last half minute was a slug through the mud. Thank the skies that the one fellow made every free throw.

And thanks that we had enough time outs to protect the baseline passer. ... uncomfortable times. Does this team ever "cruise"?
They did against Georgetown way back in November...I feel like every game since then has been a nailbiter. Ironically that early road win in DC against the Hoyas made me think this might be a solid year...
 

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Looking at the positives....Notre Dame with that win has moved into the top 100 for both kenpom and bartorvik.

I just hope they can show some promise into March.
At minimum end the season 2-2 through the last four...and sneak your way into a Quarterfinal game for the ACC tournament.

If we could finish the season like that, it would at least give me some small belief Shrews has something brewing going into year 3.

I don't enjoy saying this, but I don't believe it should be lost that his son not playing in the best win in awhile doesn't seem ideal.
Braeden has always given off empty stats type of vibes to me whenever I watch him play, but he is the coaches kid some hopefully he can also improve going into year 3.
 

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I don't enjoy saying this, but I don't believe it should be lost that his son not playing in the best win in awhile doesn't seem ideal.
Braeden has always given off empty stats type of vibes to me whenever I watch him play, but he is the coaches kid some hopefully he can also improve going into year 3.
He's that streaky scorer that has him moments, but he doesn't seem like a starting caliber of player. We don't have enough fire power for this, but I think his role would be best served coming off of the bench to be that guy you look to score when a Burton or Davis take a break.

There's no doubt that he' got a nice shooting stroke and a very quick release, but that's really it, and teams can take it away if he's too one dimensional. It also doesn't help that we're not really moving the ball very well, so he's not exactly getting a ton of open look, either.
 

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He's that streaky scorer that has him moments, but he doesn't seem like a starting caliber of player. We don't have enough fire power for this, but I think his role would be best served coming off of the bench to be that guy you look to score when a Burton or Davis take a break.

There's no doubt that he' got a nice shooting stroke and a very quick release, but that's really it, and teams can take it away if he's too one dimensional. It also doesn't help that we're not really moving the ball very well, so he's not exactly getting a ton of open look, either.
Yes, my thought as well has been he would be more useful coming off the bench in a score first mentality...but we don't have the talent for that right now.
A cynic would also say it is likely Shrews hasn't aggressively recruited through high school or through the portal his replacement, or equal since he wants his son to start and play 30+ minutes a night.

It's just always murky when its the coaches son, and he is by far not the best player on the team.
Also, I don't have any advanced defensive stats to back it up, but whenever I watch him out there on defense he is a huge liability.
The only stat I see is in his career at ND he has 69 turnovers to 31 steals. Far from ideal for a shooting guard.
 

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Yes, my thought as well has been he would be more useful coming off the bench in a score first mentality...but we don't have the talent for that right now.
A cynic would also say it is likely Shrews hasn't aggressively recruited through high school or through the portal his replacement, or equal since he wants his son to start and play 30+ minutes a night.

It's just always murky when its the coaches son, and he is by far not the best player on the team.
Also, I don't have any advanced defensive stats to back it up, but whenever I watch him out there on defense he is a huge liability.
The only stat I see is in his career at ND he has 69 turnovers to 31 steals. Far from ideal for a shooting guard.

In the context of of this year alone as I am not going to predict how he is going to develop, I think he's the perfect 6th man on a good ND team. He'd be able to provide a real offensive spark off the bench and situationally would still play a lot some games. When he's cold or if the matchup is more athletic, he'd play less. As y'all have said, unfortunately the talent just isn't there for this to be the case.
 

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In the context of of this year alone as I am not going to predict how he is going to develop, I think he's the perfect 6th man on a good ND team. He'd be able to provide a real offensive spark off the bench and situationally would still play a lot some games. When he's cold or if the matchup is more athletic, he'd play less. As y'all have said, unfortunately the talent just isn't there for this to be the case.
If Mohammed develops and Haralson is as predicted BShrews becomes the 6th man next year (if no other starter leaves).
 
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