2022 Watch Party: BOWL SEASON

INLaw

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I'm not sure this was a good thing. It might've been more satisfying for Michigan to have made it to the NC game full of confidence and bravado, and then get the absolute living hell beaten out of them by Georgia. Seems more humiliating than losing a close one in the semis to TCU.
What’s best for Michigan is copious amounts of napalm. Barring that losing as soon possible and as often as possible is best.
 

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Exactly. I don’t get the influx of well this would have gone this way and this team is better than that. We just played the season! Alabama lost to LSU and Tennessee. Barely snuck by Texas and Ole Miss. These real things happened.
Playing a complete shit schedule and running the table does not make you one of the 4 most deserving teams. Hell they lost their conference championship, and worse, they lost to a 4 loss team that got poinded by Bama in their bowl game. K state was the beat team they played all year before the playoffs..that really happened too.
 

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Exactly. I don’t get the influx of well this would have gone this way and this team is better than that. We just played the season! Alabama lost to LSU and Tennessee. Barely snuck by Texas and Ole Miss. These real things happened.
Also go look at the list of crap teams that TCU didnt exactly blow out. They needed a last second FG to beat a terrible Baylor team for fucks sake.
 

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Also go look at the list of crap teams that TCU didnt exactly blow out. They needed a last second FG to beat a terrible Baylor team for fucks sake.
And Kansas! They gave up 35 points to Kansas!
 

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Playing a complete shit schedule and running the table does not make you one of the 4 most deserving teams. Hell they lost their conference championship, and worse, they lost to a 4 loss team that got poinded by Bama in their bowl game. K state was the beat team they played all year before the playoffs..that really happened too.

Also go look at the list of crap teams that TCU didnt exactly blow out. They needed a last second FG to beat a terrible Baylor team for fucks sake.

So who deserved it? Teams that lost to better teams are more deserving?

Why even keep score? We can just decide without regard to wins and losses

Reminder. They beat 13 - 0 Michigan.
 

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So who deserved it? Teams that lost to better teams are more deserving?

Why even keep score? We can just decide without regard to wins and losses

Reminder. They beat 13 - 0 Michigan.
This!!!

This shit is so stupid,… I’m not seeing who ‘deserved’ a shot more,… some team that played three above average teams all year and lost twice??? No thanks.

It worked out in the end lads,… the best team all year was the best team in the end,… wtf are y’all on about!?
 

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The final rankings had to end with a weird result based on the last week of the season and post season results.

TCU had to be ranked above Michigan, they beat them when the stakes were at their highest

Michigan had to be ranked ahead of Ohio State, they beat them when I the stakes were at their highest

It’s not like TCU beat Michigan in week 2 and then shit the end the rest of the season, and Michigan destroyed Ohio State. Fair is fair.


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Stetson Bennett is the most unlikeable guy with a great underdog story I’ve ever seen. My man was on silver singles while his teammates are on Tinder. And I would’ve loved to see Michigan give up 65 in a NCG.
 

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So who deserved it? Teams that lost to better teams are more deserving?

Why even keep score? We can just decide without regard to wins and losses

Reminder. They beat 13 - 0 Michigan.
By this logic, we should scrap clemson, ohio state, and usc next year and replace them with Wyoming, Kansas and Memphis.
Hell teams should be lining up to play the softest schedules possible if all you have to do is run the table and youre in just because you won all your games, especially when the whole conference Champ thing gets tossed out the window because thats right, they lost their conference championship too.

I guess I was under the crazy assumption the goal was to get the 4 best teams in the playoffs, not simply the teams with the 4 best records. We constantly trash Michigans schedule, but then say it shouldnt be questioned when a shit team plays a shit schedule, losses their conference championship, gets in anyhow, then gets exposed like the dog with fleas they were while the team that beat them in said conference championship gets their ass waxes too.
If who you actually played doesnt matter then THATS where I ask whats the point of playing the games. Im not interested in a bullshit watered down schedule for teams trying to win out to get in the playoffs and get blown out. I’d much rather see the 1 or even 2 loss team that played the far superior schedule and played neck and neck with the best teams get in the playoffs and actually have a chance to compete.
 

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By this logic, we should scrap clemson, ohio state, and usc next year and replace them with Wyoming, Kansas and Memphis.
Hell teams should be lining up to play the softest schedules possible if all you have to do is run the table and youre in just because you won all your games, especially when the whole conference Champ thing gets tossed out the window because thats right, they lost their conference championship too.

I guess I was under the crazy assumption the goal was to get the 4 best teams in the playoffs, not simply the teams with the 4 best records. We constantly trash Michigans schedule, but then say it shouldnt be questioned when a shit team plays a shit schedule, losses their conference championship, gets in anyhow, then gets exposed like the dog with fleas they were while the team that beat them in said conference championship gets their ass waxes too.
If who you actually played doesnt matter then THATS where I ask whats the point of playing the games. Im not interested in a bullshit watered down schedule for teams trying to win out to get in the playoffs and get blown out. I’d much rather see the 1 or even 2 loss team that played the far superior schedule and played neck and neck with the best teams get in the playoffs and actually have a chance to compete.

They got exposed? They accomplished more they we ever have in the playoff. At last check last night was the Championship not the semi. Your entire argument is invalidated by TCU actually winning the semi. If being better than Michigan doesn’t make them deserving, let’s cross out the entire Big 12 and Big Ten then. Heck we know the ACC isn’t cross them off too. So Pac 12 and SEC? Or we taking out the Pac 12 too? Just the SEC Playoff sponsored by ESPN is what you want? Even though Georgia could have hung just as much on Tennessee had they wanted to.

Yeah put in Bama, played neck and neck with the best like Texas! I wonder if TCU could do that.

You’re right. Don’t play the games. Put in OSU, Alabama and Georgia every year and then a lucky 4th out of like a select 10 other teams. Maybe just base it off recruiting rankings at this point? Sick sport.
 
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They got exposed? They accomplished more they we ever have in the playoff. At last check last night was the Championship not the semi. Your entire argument is invalidated by TCU actually winning the semi. If being better than Michigan doesn’t make them deserving, let’s cross out the entire Big 12 and Big Ten then. Heck we know the ACC isn’t cross them off too. So Pac 12 and SEC? Or we taking out the Pac 12 too? Just the SEC Playoff sponsored by ESPN is what you want? Even though Georgia could have hung just as much on Tennessee had they wanted to.

Yeah put in Bama, played neck and neck with the best like Texas! I wonder if TCU could do that.

You’re right. Don’t play the games. Put in OSU, Alabama and Georgia every year and then a lucky 4th out of like a select 10 other teams. Maybe just base it off recruiting rankings at this point? Sick sport.
Just cancel the season and give the title to the Vegas favorite on August 1st.
 

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Georgia by the way has a laughing stock of a 2023 schedule. You keeping them out next year?

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In the non con. We should keep our teams that water down there schedule right?

But wait till Kentucky and Missouri come to town. SEC! SEC! SEC!
 

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Don’t play the games. Put in OSU, Alabama and Georgia every year and then a lucky 4th out of like a select 10 other teams. Maybe just base it off recruiting rankings at this point? Sick sport.
Seriously, this is what people seem to be getting at with these arguments. Except, of course, if ND is in playoff contention then this board will scrutinize season resumes to no end.
 

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By this logic, we should scrap clemson, ohio state, and usc next year and replace them with Wyoming, Kansas and Memphis.
Hell teams should be lining up to play the softest schedules possible if all you have to do is run the table and youre in just because you won all your games, especially when the whole conference Champ thing gets tossed out the window because thats right, they lost their conference championship too.

I guess I was under the crazy assumption the goal was to get the 4 best teams in the playoffs, not simply the teams with the 4 best records. We constantly trash Michigans schedule, but then say it shouldnt be questioned when a shit team plays a shit schedule, losses their conference championship, gets in anyhow, then gets exposed like the dog with fleas they were while the team that beat them in said conference championship gets their ass waxes too.
If who you actually played doesnt matter then THATS where I ask whats the point of playing the games. Im not interested in a bullshit watered down schedule for teams trying to win out to get in the playoffs and get blown out. I’d much rather see the 1 or even 2 loss team that played the far superior schedule and played neck and neck with the best teams get in the playoffs and actually have a chance to compete.
I think it should be categorized as the "four best seasons" rather than best teams.

TCU had one of the best seasons.
 

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Football is a weird game of match-ups and momentum. Every year a team that has clearly earned their spot gets shit on for catching the wrong end of an ass beating, and every year people act like this is some sort of indictment on the cfb playoff system. This isn't some unique cfb thing. Remember when Peyton Manning took a record breaking offense to the Super Bowl and then lost to the Seahawks 43-8? Or the Super Bowl where the Buccaneers beat the Raiders 48-21? Or John Elway losing by an average margin of 32 points in his first 3 Super Bowls? Shit happens in football. Good teams can run into a buzzsaw. Doesn't mean they didn't deserve to be there.
 

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This was the top of the SEC outside of Georgia during the actual season, since folks love that KSU bowl loss to Bama as proof of something.

Alabama: W 20 - 19 at Texas
LSU: L 24 - 23 vs FSU
Tennessee: W 34 - 27 (OT) @ Pitt

Yes those teams are so much better than every other conference because they beat each other. So deserving of praise of their own losses. CLEARLY losing to those teams is more impressive than winning actual games.
 

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They probably should have beaten TCU if they were a few scores better, huh?
I think UM got exposed. McCarthy is good but I think he’s benefiting from the run game. His great OSU game was all on OSU selling out on the run. TCU played the run well and didn’t have to sell out.

UM says they played their worst game but sometimes you don’t play well because of the team you are facing.
 

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Georgia by the way has a laughing stock of a 2023 schedule. You keeping them out next year?

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In the non con. We should keep our teams that water down there schedule right?

But wait till Kentucky and Missouri come to town. SEC! SEC! SEC!

Georgia's schedule next year is kind of embarassing. They also miss Bama and LSU and even A&M. Toughest team they play from the SEC West is probably Ole Miss. They should schedule one of those season openers in the Georgia Dome just to feel something.
 

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This was the top of the SEC outside of Georgia during the actual season, since folks love that KSU bowl loss to Bama as proof of something.

Alabama: W 20 - 19 at Texas
LSU: L 24 - 23 vs FSU
Tennessee: W 34 - 27 (OT) @ Pitt

Yes those teams are so much better than every other conference because they beat each other. So deserving of praise of their own losses. CLEARLY losing to those teams is more impressive than winning actual games.
But two can play that game Dale.

The @SEC played.....

The Big 12 Champion
The Big 12 Runnerup
The Big 10 Runnerup
The ACC Champion

4-0 & outscoring them 204-48.

The argument for/against TCU doesn't matter at this point. The real indictment isn't the playoff committee and who made it in... the real issue is the lack of parity most years between the Ga's, tOSUs, Bamas and the rest of CFB. The 12 team playoff will allow more participation... sadly I think most years the results will be the same. CFB is really a two conference sport now and will continue to be moving forward... especially with the expansion in to the two dominant conferences coming up.
 

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But two can play that game Dale.

The @SEC played.....

The Big 12 Champion
The Big 12 Runnerup
The Big 10 Runnerup
The ACC Champion

4-0 & outscoring them 204-48.

The argument for/against TCU doesn't matter at this point. The real indictment isn't the playoff committee and who made it in... the real issue is the lack of parity most years between the Ga's, tOSUs, Bamas and the rest of CFB. The 12 team playoff will allow more participation... sadly I think most years the results will be the same. CFB is really a two conference sport now and will continue to be moving forward... especially with the expansion in to the two dominant conferences coming up.
big discussion on this topic yesterday across most radio shows it seemed.

Collin Cowherd was saying he doesnt see the expanded playoffs impacting parity at all. Klatt (i believe) was saying that allowing more people to participate should disperse the talent better in recruiting and that the exclusivity of the currently playoffs has lead to the hoarding of talent by the big 3 or so.

I disagree because those schools mostly had that talent to begin the CFP era.
 

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But two can play that game Dale.

The @SEC played.....

The Big 12 Champion
The Big 12 Runnerup
The Big 10 Runnerup
The ACC Champion

4-0 & outscoring them 204-48.

The argument for/against TCU doesn't matter at this point. The real indictment isn't the playoff committee and who made it in... the real issue is the lack of parity most years between the Ga's, tOSUs, Bamas and the rest of CFB. The 12 team playoff will allow more participation... sadly I think most years the results will be the same. CFB is really a two conference sport now and will continue to be moving forward... especially with the expansion in to the two dominant conferences coming up.

I mean that’s exactly part of my point, it’s a stupid game to play and proves nothing. Math also seems a bit off regardless but idk which games you chose to include versus omit. Did you include KSU - Alabama but not KSU - Missouri? Exactly.

Georgia’s triumphs does not mean a team that didn’t even play Georgia is somehow automatically better for sharing a conference. You’re, and I, are cherry picking results and deciding it retroactively proves something, it doesn’t.
 
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