2019 Master List

[fightingirish26]

It seems like a big chunk of the elite talent we bring in ends up as busts anyway. Something about elite talent and ND just doesn't mix.

The '18 and '19 classes in tandem are probably going to end up as my favorite classes since I started following recruiting when Kelly showed up. RB and TE are probably the only positions from these classes that don't have championship caliber talent, and it's hard to be upset about TE when you look at '17 and '20. We are recruiting great fits, and putting an emphasis on having the right coaching staff. This seems like an excellent strategy for a school like ND.

 

[NDMIA]

It seems like a big chunk of the elite talent we bring in ends up as busts anyway. Something about elite talent and ND just doesn't mix.

The '18 and '19 classes in tandem are probably going to end up as my favorite classes since I started following recruiting when Kelly showed up. RB and TE are probably the only positions from these classes that don't have championship caliber talent, and it's hard to be upset about TE when you look at '17 and '20. We are recruiting great fits, and putting an emphasis on having the right coaching staff. This seems like an excellent strategy for a school like ND.

.9500’s or higher since 2010

.9675 Louis Nix III - NFL
.9579 TJ Jones - NFL
.9947 Aaron Lynch - NFL, but didn’t wanna be at ND
.9888 Ishaq Williams - NFL, didn’t produce too much at ND
.9824 Stephon Tuitt - NFL
.9765 Ben Koyack - NFL
.9714 Matt Hegarty - Didn’t do much
.9545 DaVaris Daniels - NFL, decent year and then good year at ND
.9884 Gunner Kiel - 0
.9745 Davonte Neal - went to Arizona for kid purposes
.9604 Elijah Shumate - NFL
.9517 Sheldon Day - NFL
.9987 Jaylon Smith - NFL
.9856 Max Redfield - supremely talented, didn’t develop
.9768 Greg Bryant - RIP, talented dude. Had a tough time off the field at ND.
.9545 Hunter Bivin - serviceable backup
.9508 Tarean Folston - solid but injuries bested him
.9739 Nyles Morgan - NFL, solid starter
.9707 Quenton Nelson - NFL
.9554 Justin Brent - porn stars and BK doghouse
.9792 Brandon Wimbush - Starting QB ND
.9693 Alize Mack - unquestionably talented. Just needs to put it together
.9585 Tristen Hoge - left before we could see if he was good
.9564 Dexter Williams - doesn’t block but heck of a runner
.9835 Tommy Kraemer - average first year. Has the tools to be solid and maybe great in future
.9614 Liam Eichenberg - starting LT at ND. Big shoes to fill.

I didn’t have the time to check which guys are still in the NFL or their stats, but I think ND has definitely a pretty good hit rate when it comes to elite talent. I do agree that a lot of top talent doesn’t pan out while at ND, but I think that was a case of the BK staff going after the best possible dudes whereas now they have a really good understanding on what allows a student athlete to be successful at ND. Plus, most of the stars of the last couple of years come from this list. Obviously not all, but most of ND’s best players come from this list so definitely worth investing time in getting those elite guys onto campus.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Exactly. To get a top ranking, you need some top 50 guys. We aren't getting those guys right now... there aren't even many plausible targets among top 50 guys at this juncture. The way the formula is set up... and I think it's set up pretty well... you absolutely have to have some headliners to finish inside the top 10.

Even if you have a 20 person class of nothing but 90-93 rating 4 players that's not a top 10 class... it'd be somewhere between a 250 and a 260. You need about a 270 to be inside the top 10.

There is just effectively zero traction with any top rated guys... seriously it's like Brandon Smith (PSU)? And Hudson Henry (where we didn't make top 5)? The top 50 guys that we are "in" on is basically zero... not even any pipe dreams.

Right now, best case scenario for this class is around ~15 and that will only change if a bunch of people completely off the radar change their minds in the middle of the fall.

The top 50 guys would be great to add but we've never seen Kelly put together two back to back, complete recruiting classes. There have always been holes at positions of need. If 2019 continues to add quality 4 star players to finish the class, this will be the most complete effort I've seen.

That goes a long way to hitting double digit wins each year. Then you need a few more top 100 guys sprinkled in (or incredible talent mining) to make a run at the natty.

 

[Irish#1]

Unless we pull some crazy flips late, it seems very unlikely we finish with a top 10 class. There are not a lot of high star guys that we are in on to close things out... not even a lot of guys even on the radar to be honest.

Also rankings could change. Malik Langham form Alabama was so far in rankings nobody heard of him. A bunch of teams offer and he picks up steam he is a top 250 guy on 247 when all is said and done. Although nothing like that happens for ND so maybe I am dreaming. Ojabo, Hamilton and Kristofic seems like they could be those guys this year.

While I do think we slide from this 4 spot, I'm not sure we slide all the way out of the top 10. Not guaranteed but certainly possible that Kristofic, Hamilton, Wallace, Spears, and Kiser to see ratings bumps. Some maybe quite a bit. Plus, we are in on guys like Donavon Greene, Woodi Washington, Rutherford, Sheffield, Henrich, Wormley, Cornelius Johnson, and Asa Turner. Those are all composite 90's or better. Theoretically that'd keep our avg. rating above 90 and with 23 that'd put us right at the 8-12 range. For example, Miami was 8 last year with 23 players and an avg. rating of 90.99.

With all that said, I don't care if we are 8 or 11, this class is going to be pretty darn good.

In other words, a pretty typical BK class at ND w/r/t rankings. I don't mean that in a bad way either. There are/were some clear needs for the class and so far they have nailed them other than RB. I personally like doing a rolling 2 class view and I think this class and the last offers some of the best balance we have seen from Kelly (assuming RB is addressed).

You know it's never good when Illinois has 3 players committed right no that are higher rated then our best play. Yes i know that it doesn't mean they will finish there but that's sad.

That's fine.

But for people not opening the link, there is also 779 ranking spots between their 2nd and 3rd best player in the class.

I would rather have a team full of players ranked 75-250 than a team stocked with 3 or 4 superstars and not much thereafter.

Exactly. To get a top ranking, you need some top 50 guys. We aren't getting those guys right now... there aren't even many plausible targets among top 50 guys at this juncture. The way the formula is set up... and I think it's set up pretty well... you absolutely have to have some headliners to finish inside the top 10.

Even if you have a 20 person class of nothing but 90-93 rating 4 players that's not a top 10 class... it'd be somewhere between a 250 and a 260. You need about a 270 to be inside the top 10.

There is just effectively zero traction with any top rated guys... seriously it's like Brandon Smith (PSU)? And Hudson Henry (where we didn't make top 5)? The top 50 guys that we are "in" on is basically zero... not even any pipe dreams.

Right now, best case scenario for this class is around ~15 and that will only change if a bunch of people completely off the radar change their minds in the middle of the fall.

It seems like a big chunk of the elite talent we bring in ends up as busts anyway. Something about elite talent and ND just doesn't mix.
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Rankings are so subjective. It gives you something of a barometer to gauge against other teams, but the actual difference in a player ranked 50 and 100 is very subjective. Besides, when a ranking also takes total number of signees, it skews the results given some make take 25, some make take 20, etc.

You never know how a kid is going to turn out regardless of their ranking. I would guess our bust rate with upper talent is no different than most teams. I would prefer to get kids that will be there for at least three years if not four and five years where they can really develop physically and mentally to play the game.

 

[Andy in Sactown]

Rankings are so subjective. It gives you something of a barometer to gauge against other teams, but the actual difference in a player ranked 50 and 100 is very subjective. Besides, when a ranking also takes total number of signees, it skews the results given some make take 25, some make take 20, etc.

You never know how a kid is going to turn out regardless of their ranking. I would guess our bust rate with upper talent is no different than most teams. I would prefer to get kids that will be there for at least three years if not four and five years where they can really develop physically and mentally to play the game.

Here hear #1. I have to think that after all these years that Coach has a good idea about how to make a championship caliber team at Notre Dame. We're doing it right. Results to follow.

 

[Ndaccountant]

.9500’s or higher since 2010

.9675 Louis Nix III - NFL
.9579 TJ Jones - NFL
.9947 Aaron Lynch - NFL, but didn’t wanna be at ND
.9888 Ishaq Williams - NFL, didn’t produce too much at ND
.9824 Stephon Tuitt - NFL
.9765 Ben Koyack - NFL
.9714 Matt Hegarty - Didn’t do much
.9545 DaVaris Daniels - NFL, decent year and then good year at ND
.9884 Gunner Kiel - 0
.9745 Davonte Neal - went to Arizona for kid purposes
.9604 Elijah Shumate - NFL
.9517 Sheldon Day - NFL
.9987 Jaylon Smith - NFL
.9856 Max Redfield - supremely talented, didn’t develop
.9768 Greg Bryant - RIP, talented dude. Had a tough time off the field at ND.
.9545 Hunter Bivin - serviceable backup
.9508 Tarean Folston - solid but injuries bested him
.9739 Nyles Morgan - NFL, solid starter
.9707 Quenton Nelson - NFL
.9554 Justin Brent - porn stars and BK doghouse
.9792 Brandon Wimbush - Starting QB ND
.9693 Alize Mack - unquestionably talented. Just needs to put it together
.9585 Tristen Hoge - left before we could see if he was good
.9564 Dexter Williams - doesn’t block but heck of a runner
.9835 Tommy Kraemer - average first year. Has the tools to be solid and maybe great in future
.9614 Liam Eichenberg - starting LT at ND. Big shoes to fill.

I didn’t have the time to check which guys are still in the NFL or their stats, but I think ND has definitely a pretty good hit rate when it comes to elite talent. I do agree that a lot of top talent doesn’t pan out while at ND, but I think that was a case of the BK staff going after the best possible dudes whereas now they have a really good understanding on what allows a student athlete to be successful at ND. Plus, most of the stars of the last couple of years come from this list. Obviously not all, but most of ND’s best players come from this list so definitely worth investing time in getting those elite guys onto campus.

When ND dominated the late 80's and early 90's, they did so with great line play and suffocating D.

1988 - Gave up 1.2 TD's per game, had +1.7 yards per rush delta (ND average YPC versus YPC given up) - Natty
1989 - 1.9 TD's per game, +2.1 yards per rush - (finished 12-1)
1990 - 2.7 TD's per game, +1.4 per rush (finished 9-3)
1991 - 2.8 TD's per game, +1.3 per rush (finished 10-3)
1992 - 1.8 TD's per game, +2.5 yards per rush (finished 10-1-1)
1993 - 2.3 TD's per game, +2.1 yards per rush (finished 11-1)

Bama 2010 - 1.4 TD's per game, 1.8 yards per rush
Bama 2011 - 0.7 TD's per game, 3.1 yards per rush
Bama 2012 - 1.3 TD's per game, 3.2 yards per rush
Bama 2013 - 1.6 TD's per game, 2.5 yards per rush
Bama 2014 - 1.8 TD's per game, 1.9 yards per rush
Bama 2015 - 1.6 TD's per game, 2.3 yards per rush
Bama 2016 - 1.3 TD's per game, 3.8 yards per rush
Bama 2017 - 1.2 TD's per game, 2.9 yards per rush

Clemson 2015 - 2.4 TD's per game, +1.4 yards per rush
Clemson 2016 - 2.2 TD's per game, +0.6 yards per rush
Clemson 2017 - 1.5 TD's per game, +1.6 yards per rush

Best BK team - 2.3 yards per carry delta - 2017. Only year above 1.5 yard delta.
1.1 TD's per game, 2012 - only year below 2.0 TD's per game.

The reason I highlight this is that you two options to win big in CFB. One is to have a generational talent at QB. Watson was that for Clemson. The other way you win is by controlling the line and dominate on D. Bama clearly has done that. Ohio state has too, their yards per rush difference has increased significantly over the years. Ironically, the 2014 team that won the Natty had the worst metrics of any Meyer team 2014-2017. But either way, on average is usually at or below 2.0 TD's per game and 2.0 yards or more better per rush.

BK can win more than 10 per game at ND if he truly focuses on winning the LOS and locking down on D. That is why I was so impressed with the 2017 team, because you could see the transformation. The recruiting is focusing on that too. Having 5* across the board certainly helps Bama, but having depth and development of 4*'s can certainly do it too. Just can't have holes in recruiting.

 

[fightingirish26]

.9500’s or higher since 2010

.9675 Louis Nix III - NFL
.9579 TJ Jones - NFL
.9947 Aaron Lynch - NFL, but didn’t wanna be at ND
.9888 Ishaq Williams - NFL, didn’t produce too much at ND
.9824 Stephon Tuitt - NFL
.9765 Ben Koyack - NFL
.9714 Matt Hegarty - Didn’t do much
.9545 DaVaris Daniels - NFL, decent year and then good year at ND
.9884 Gunner Kiel - 0
.9745 Davonte Neal - went to Arizona for kid purposes
.9604 Elijah Shumate - NFL
.9517 Sheldon Day - NFL
.9987 Jaylon Smith - NFL
.9856 Max Redfield - supremely talented, didn’t develop
.9768 Greg Bryant - RIP, talented dude. Had a tough time off the field at ND.
.9545 Hunter Bivin - serviceable backup
.9508 Tarean Folston - solid but injuries bested him
.9739 Nyles Morgan - NFL, solid starter
.9707 Quenton Nelson - NFL
.9554 Justin Brent - porn stars and BK doghouse
.9792 Brandon Wimbush - Starting QB ND
.9693 Alize Mack - unquestionably talented. Just needs to put it together
.9585 Tristen Hoge - left before we could see if he was good
.9564 Dexter Williams - doesn’t block but heck of a runner
.9835 Tommy Kraemer - average first year. Has the tools to be solid and maybe great in future
.9614 Liam Eichenberg - starting LT at ND. Big shoes to fill.

I didn’t have the time to check which guys are still in the NFL or their stats, but I think ND has definitely a pretty good hit rate when it comes to elite talent. I do agree that a lot of top talent doesn’t pan out while at ND, but I think that was a case of the BK staff going after the best possible dudes whereas now they have a really good understanding on what allows a student athlete to be successful at ND. Plus, most of the stars of the last couple of years come from this list. Obviously not all, but most of ND’s best players come from this list so definitely worth investing time in getting those elite guys onto campus.

This conversation started because we weren't considering top 51-100 ish players high end talent, so that leaves us with Kraemer, Wimbush, Jaylon, Max, GB RIP, Gunner, Lynch, Ishaq, Tuitt and Koyack. I'd probably consider 5 of those players busts from a ND perspective, although Jaylon and Tuitt were probably the only ones who really lived up to their billing so far. Anyways, I'm only saying that I like the staff's current recruiting strategy and it's really nice to see so few holes on the roster. They're doing a great job of identifying good fits.

 

[NDMIA]

Just wanted to point out what the staff is looking at in terms of 2019 DL Roster

SDE
SR 4* Khalid Kareem
RS JR 3* Adetokunbo Ogundeji
RS FR 3* Justin Ademilola
FR 4* Howard Cross

DT
JR 3* Myron T-Amosa
JR 3* Kurt Hinish
RS FR 4* Jayson Ademilola
FR 4* Hunter Spears

DT
RS SR 3* Micah Dew-Treadway
RS SO 4* Darnell Ewell
RS FR 3* Ja’Mion Franklin
FR 4* Jacob Lacey

WDE
SR 5* Daelin Hayes
SR 4* Julian Okwara
SR 3* Jamir Jones
RS SO 3* Kofi Wardlow
FR 4* Nana Osafo-Mensah

So obviously I don’t have the positions down pat, but it’s a general idea of where the roster stands with the 2019 recruiting class. Jamir Jones was put at Drop and definitely cross trained a lot during the spring and even ended up more at SDE I think when it was all said and done. I think a few guys have positional flexibility which allows the staff to target their favorite DE target regardless of position. I think it was mentioned on IE and on a podcast that they believe the staff now only wants 1 more DE to close out the DLine, but some people have seen it be as much as 1 WDE and 2 SDE. There will be attrition at this position group because there is every single year so I think being at 18-19 guys would be fine to cover the future losses (2018 saw a lot of attrition but they had a lot of RS SR’s). So being at 17 right now I’d hope the staff has narrowed their gaze to the best overall DLine targets and are hoping to get 1-2 more guys. Some of the targets, regardless of position, would be...

.9262 4* Laiatu Latu
.9261 4* Joshua Pakola
.9238 4* Ty Robinson
.8850 3* Bralen Trice
.8784 3* David Ojabo
.8730 3* Aeneas Dicosmo
.8540 3* Josiah Miamen

I think of the targets the top 3 guys are simply OV candidates and then if they do make an OV you just pray that ND blows them away. After that, I really think David Ojabo should be the major major priority because if you’re looking for something that ND doesn’t have in their DLine room, he’s pretty much it. I really hope they get someone like Ojabo or Dicosmo on board soon and then for their last spot they just do an OV lottery with guys like Latu, Pakola, Robinson, and guys like Nathan Pickering or some big time targets that you hope to blow away on their visit.

 

[NDMIA]

Another interesting position to me this cycle is WR. For the 2019 season we have

WR
RS SR 4* Miles Boykin
RS SR 2* Chris Finke
SR 4* Chase Claypool
RS JR 4* Javon McKinley
JR 3* Michael Young
RS SO 3* Jafar Armstrong
SO 4* Kevin Austin
SO 4* Braden Lenzy
RS FR 4* Micah Jones
RS FR 3* Lawrence Keys III

Being that Jafar Armstrong will likely be deployed as a RB in the future he seems to be doubtful to be counted as a WR. As for the numbers, ND has had a range of 9-12 receivers on scholarship in the past couple of years with I think 11-12 being the more desired number for proper depth purposes. The 2019 class should be small but I think will still end up being 2-3 guys in total. Of the targets left on the board, I’d say ND only has a legit shot at a few of them...

.9771 4* Kyle Ford
.9658 4* Joe Ngata
.9235 4* Trey Knox
.9173 4* Donovan Greene
.9115 4* TJ Sheffield - Purdue, Arkansas, Ohio State, ND
.9003 4* Cornelius Johnson
.8676 3* Cam Hart

Kyle Ford is an OV and pray kinda guy, but he’s too good to not go after. Joe Ngata is one who was visited twice during eval period and has visited before and loved it. Recently mentioned his 3 standing out are Washington, Clemson and USC which is disappointing but maybe he can be an OV guy. Trey Knox told Rivals he was coming to ND this summer but so far hasn’t made it and mentioned an unofficial top 3 of Arkansas, Tennessee, and Ohio State. Then comes the 4 WR prospects that ND actually has a chance at which includes Donovan Greene, a WR from NC that Matt Freeman mentioned has a lot of interest in ND according to a source of his. TJ Sheffield I think loves ND but idk how much love their showing him which is disappointing to hear cause they have 0 commits. Cornelius Johnson seems to be a Stanford and ND battle and still has 3 ND CB’s even after he visited Stanford in May. Cam Hart is making a decision on July 4th and signs point to ND, although to be honest, I like Donovan Greene better and think the staff can shoot for higher if they are only taking 1-2 guys this class. That’s not to say Cam Hart isn’t a good prospect cause he is, but I think ND can afford to be choosy at the WR position where not one guy from the 2018 roster loses their eligibility.

 

[BobbyMac]

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[NDIrish88]

Yeah I am also surprised more CBs didn't come from the huge visit weekend we just had. Also has anyone seen Cam Harts track numbers? Just curious?

 

[zelezo vlk]

Another interesting position to me this cycle is WR. For the 2019 season we have

WR
RS SR 4* Miles Boykin
RS SR 2* Chris Finke
SR 4* Chase Claypool
RS JR 4* Javon McKinley
JR 3* Michael Young
RS SO 3* Jafar Armstrong
SO 4* Kevin Austin
SO 4* Braden Lenzy
RS FR 4* Micah Jones
RS FR 3* Lawrence Keys III

Being that Jafar Armstrong will likely be deployed as a RB in the future he seems to be doubtful to be counted as a WR. As for the numbers, ND has had a range of 9-12 receivers on scholarship in the past couple of years with I think 11-12 being the more desired number for proper depth purposes. The 2019 class should be small but I think will still end up being 2-3 guys in total. Of the targets left on the board, I’d say ND only has a legit shot at a few of them...

.9771 4* Kyle Ford
.9658 4* Joe Ngata
.9235 4* Trey Knox
.9173 4* Donovan Greene
.9115 4* TJ Sheffield - Purdue, Arkansas, Ohio State, ND
.9003 4* Cornelius Johnson
.8676 3* Cam Hart

Kyle Ford is an OV and pray kinda guy, but he’s too good to not go after. Joe Ngata is one who was visited twice during eval period and has visited before and loved it. Recently mentioned his 3 standing out are Washington, Clemson and USC which is disappointing but maybe he can be an OV guy. Trey Knox told Rivals he was coming to ND this summer but so far hasn’t made it and mentioned an unofficial top 3 of Arkansas, Tennessee, and Ohio State. Then comes the 4 WR prospects that ND actually has a chance at which includes Donovan Greene, a WR from NC that Matt Freeman mentioned has a lot of interest in ND according to a source of his. TJ Sheffield I think loves ND but idk how much love their showing him which is disappointing to hear cause they have 0 commits. Cornelius Johnson seems to be a Stanford and ND battle and still has 3 ND CB’s even after he visited Stanford in May. Cam Hart is making a decision on July 4th and signs point to ND, although to be honest, I like Donovan Greene better and think the staff can shoot for higher if they are only taking 1-2 guys this class. That’s not to say Cam Hart isn’t a good prospect cause he is, but I think ND can afford to be choosy at the WR position where not one guy from the 2018 roster loses their eligibility.

Is Kendall Abdur-Rahman not considering ND anymore?

 

[NDMIA]

Is Kendall Abdur-Rahman not considering ND anymore?

Whoops. He’s a WR prospect. Sorry I forgot about him. He was mentioned on Power Hour podcast.

 

[irishff1014]

Exactly. To get a top ranking, you need some top 50 guys. We aren't getting those guys right now... there aren't even many plausible targets among top 50 guys at this juncture. The way the formula is set up... and I think it's set up pretty well... you absolutely have to have some headliners to finish inside the top 10.

Even if you have a 20 person class of nothing but 90-93 rating 4 players that's not a top 10 class... it'd be somewhere between a 250 and a 260. You need about a 270 to be inside the top 10.

There is just effectively zero traction with any top rated guys... seriously it's like Brandon Smith (PSU)? And Hudson Henry (where we didn't make top 5)? The top 50 guys that we are "in" on is basically zero... not even any pipe dreams.

Right now, best case scenario for this class is around ~15 and that will only change if a bunch of people completely off the radar change their minds in the middle of the fall.

Lax is on the money here.

 

[KizerWilhelm]

A fun tease on our QB recruiting if Clark falls through https://247sports.com/college/notre...-Notre-Dame-quarterback-recruiting-119225777/

 

[BobbyMac]

A fun tease on our QB recruiting if Clark falls through https://247sports.com/college/notre...-Notre-Dame-quarterback-recruiting-119225777/

It's a tease about the tease. Would've been a good Seinfeld episode.

 

[NDIrish88]

Anyone heard anything about Zach CHARBONNET lately? Can't seem to ind anything recent. Also I think the staff feels comfortable with some of the other RB's on the board because there are at least 3 they haven't offered who I think they could snag. Bivens, Garwo, Knight (maybe not). Glad they finally offered Brock though.

 

[NDMIA]

Anyone heard anything about Zach CHARBONNET lately? Can't seem to ind anything recent. Also I think the staff feels comfortable with some of the other RB's on the board because there are at least 3 they haven't offered who I think they could snag. Bivens, Garwo, Knight (maybe not). Glad they finally offered Brock though.

I think the staff probably feels comfortable with their offered group. They seem to have a shot with Jirehl Brock, Zach Charbonnet, King Doerue, and Kenan Christon. I think they want to take a guy from that group so I don’t think they’ll go for more offers until they have a better feel for what that foursome will do

 

[Luckylucci]

Anyone heard anything about Zach CHARBONNET lately? Can't seem to ind anything recent. Also I think the staff feels comfortable with some of the other RB's on the board because there are at least 3 they haven't offered who I think they could snag. Bivens, Garwo, Knight (maybe not). Glad they finally offered Brock though.

247 took Charbonnet off the board, as he's not a realistic target at this point.

 

[BobbyMac]

Anyone heard anything about Zach CHARBONNET lately? Can't seem to ind anything recent. Also I think the staff feels comfortable with some of the other RB's on the board because there are at least 3 they haven't offered who I think they could snag. Bivens, Garwo, Knight (maybe not). Glad they finally offered Brock though.

I've seen nothing on Charbonnet for 4-5 months. Westcoast stories were connecting him to ND and then poof.

Gonna be funny when ND has to beg TJ McDaniels to visit.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Jamie U at ISD said he'd be fine passing on a 2nd RB, which doesn't sound so bad to me either

 

[NDIrish88]

Jamie U at ISD said he'd be fine passing on a 2nd RB, which doesn't sound so bad to me either

Wouldn't mind passing on one but 2020 doesn't seem really great like it is for TE/WR, etc.

 

[Luckylucci]

Jamie U at ISD said he'd be fine passing on a 2nd RB, which doesn't sound so bad to me either

I think it should certainly be considered. For me, a 2nd RB falls into the BPA category now. Continue to recruit players that you think add talent to the depth chart, not just numbers and see where it goes.

With that said, I think a lot of that opinion depends on how much the individual likes Williams.

 

[NDIrish88]

I think it should certainly be considered. For me, a 2nd RB falls into the BPA category now. Continue to recruit players that you think add talent to the depth chart, not just numbers and see where it goes.

With that said, I think a lot of that opinion depends on how much the individual likes Williams.

I like Kyren but I alsolik Jirehl Brock, Zach Charbonnet, King Doerue, and Kenan Christon. I also think there are others I would take as well. If we have to be choosy later on that opinion may change. I also like Jafar Armstrong as a true RB as well. I think we should be more choosy at WR than any other position.

 

[stlnd01]

I don’t think we should take any old second RB just to have a body. I worry a little we did that last year with C’Bo Flemister and risk a glut of never-gonna-plays like we’ve had on the DL.

But I do think a second, top-tier RB would be good to have in this class. Someone capable of contributing as a freshman in 2019 when things could really get thin at RB.* If there are kids on the board who might be able to do that we should go after them hard.

*This assumes CJ Holmes is gone. If he comes back, the 2019 depth chart is considerably less scary.

 

[BobbyMac]

Anthony Williams Jr. visiting with Bolingbrook, IL teammate Cameron Mitchell for UGA.

Scout has Mitchell as the #19 RB in the country. Played at Simeon last year.

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Some serious follows in past few days. IL guys Rees and Plantz + Alexander.

He's started to pull in the P5 offers in the past week or two. BC, Mich St and Ore St.

Had a 122 Nike Score where he measured in at 5-11.5/191

40 = 4.71
Sht = 4.00
PB = 40.5
Vrt = 36.5

His film clips from camp season are excellent.

 

[dublinirish]

Recruiting dead period begins today until July 24th FYI

 

[zelezo vlk]

Great, the board will be dead for a month now

 

[dublinirish]

Great, the board will be dead for a month now

I had some good tacos the other day if anyone is interested

 

[zelezo vlk]

I had some good tacos the other day if anyone is interested

I definitely wanna hear more about these tacos