2018 NFL Draft

[dang227]

Chubb, Garrett and Ogbah would give them an above average position group which they currently don’t have on the team and they haven’t had in a long time.

 

[dang227]

that 2022 draft could be straight fire tho....

I know. That’s all we ver hear. If they trade down again I might be done with them after 45 years. Pick two of the top 4 players in the draft and be done with it. I am sick of always waiting until next year’s draft.

 

[ACamp1900]

Chubb, Garrett and Ogbah would give them an above average position group which they currently don’t have on the team and they haven’t had in a long time.

I totally agree... tired of waiting/passing the buck til next year.

On the position groups point... I honestly think the front 7 is already above average. The secondary is what killed them last year. I also think the pass catching group they have now is well above average. O line is above average too... I think the moves they made in the secondary should put them above average and the addition of Chubb could make that a championship caliber defense. They need another running back and need to find the franchise QB along the way (hopefully with the first pick and one of the 2nd rounders).

 

[ND NYC]

have a feeling new England is going to take that qb from ok st if in round 1.

 

[ACamp1900]

have a feeling new England is going to take that qb from ok st if in round 1.

me too...

 

[dang227]

I totally agree... tired of waiting/passing the buck til next year.

On the position groups point... I honestly think the front 7 is already above average. The secondary is what killed them last year. I also think the pass catching group they have now is well above average. O line is above average too... I think the moves they made in the secondary should put them above average and the addition of Chubb could make that a championship caliber defense. They need another running back and need to find the franchise QB along the way (hopefully with the first pick and one of the 2nd rounders).

I did over exaggerate on the position groups. If Gordon stays out of rehab, the WR, OL and DL would all be playoff caliber position groups with the addition of Chubb. Secondary blew last year but I agree it should be better with the free agent additions. LB’s are okay. I really am not a Shobert fan. He makes a lot of tackles 5 yards down the field. If they trade down from 4 I wouldn’t mind them getting Roqaun Smith.

 

[ACamp1900]

Darnold is still the odds on fav in Vegas but everything I’m hearing/seeing from experts and such says it’s Allen... I also heard some breakdown today that had Allen as a second to third round talent so the Browns taking him 1st overall would about fit I guess...

 

[dang227]

I just don’t see it with Allen. Just because he was at a small school doesn’t mean his completion percentage had to suck. Rapistburger was at 69% as a senior.

 

[ACamp1900]

So in the span of the last hour I've seen reports that have Rosen and Darnold out and the first pick down to Mayfield and Allen... one that has Allen out and Darnold the pick... another that has it down to Darnold and BM with Allen and Rosen out...

it sure feels like Dorsey hasn't told a single person what he intends to do and everything else is just noise... it's crazy though, unless he is desperately trying to get someone to trade up to #2 what do they have to gain but being so tight at this stage???

 

[zelezo vlk]

So in the span of the last hour I've seen reports that have Rosen and Darnold out and the first pick down to Mayfield and Allen... one that has Allen out and Darnold the pick... another that has it down to Darnold and BM with Allen and Rosen out...

it sure feels like Dorsey hasn't told a single person what he intends to do and everything else is just noise... it's crazy though, unless he is desperately trying to get someone to trade up to #2 what do they have to gain but being so tight at this stage???

This is exactly what I've read. Dorsey won't tell anybody what his plan is until he makes the pick

 

[RDU Irish]

Good poker face here. Let everyone think the top three QBs are all being taken #1. That same attitude will have people think you are open to trading down if you aren't totally sold on one guy. I would rather walk out with one of the top 3 QBs AND some extra picks than just the favorite of the three. Hope someone is deathly in love with someone and pulls a Bears type move.

I still see the incredibly high probability that whoever the Browns picks at QB is the one who busts - first step to recovery is to admit you have a problem. WTF do they know about picking and developing a QB other than screwing it up?

Valid points about building draft capital - gotta cash in at some point.

 

[Irish#1]

Good poker face here. Let everyone think the top three QBs are all being taken #1. That same attitude will have people think you are open to trading down if you aren't totally sold on one guy. I would rather walk out with one of the top 3 QBs AND some extra picks than just the favorite of the three. Hope someone is deathly in love with someone and pulls a Bears type move.

I still see the incredibly high probability that whoever the Browns picks at QB is the one who busts - first step to recovery is to admit you have a problem. WTF do they know about picking and developing a QB other than screwing it up?

Valid points about building draft capital - gotta cash in at some point.

Have to agree. They didn't even give DK a chance to have a cup of coffee.

 

[Rogue219]

The Browns should pick Chubb first and Nelson 4th if Nelson is there. It would be the most non dumb thing they've done in forever.

 

[ACamp1900]

The Browns should pick Chubb first and Nelson 4th if Nelson is there. It would be the most non dumb thing they've done in forever.

Two best players in the draft but they aren't in need of guards and they have GOT to get a QB they can build around.

 

[woolybug25]

For the record, I dislike all of the quarterbacks in this draft. It’s bonkers to me that in a draft so inept of “sure thing” QB prospects that there will be such a run on them.

My faves are Baker and Lamar, and ironically, they aren’t the ones being coveted. They are the only ones where I look back on their college career and would have been scared to play them. The only ones that could be depended on to take over a game and put their team on their back. Hell... Allen couldn’t even throw for 60% at Wyoming for crying out loud. Just my take...

 

[ACamp1900]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: According to sources, the Cleveland Browns will draft Josh Allen, Sam Darnold, Saquon Barkley, Josh Rosen, Baker Mayfield, Bradley Chubb, AND Lamar Jackson, all with the #1 overall pick. That will likely set a record.</p>— NOTSportsCenter (@NOTSportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/NOTSportsCenter/status/988812164742991872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I don't hear y'all laughing now, bitches.......

 

[Legacy]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: According to sources, the Cleveland Browns will draft Josh Allen, Sam Darnold, Saquon Barkley, Josh Rosen, Baker Mayfield, Bradley Chubb, AND Lamar Jackson, all with the #1 overall pick. That will likely set a record.</p>— NOTSportsCenter (@NOTSportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/NOTSportsCenter/status/988812164742991872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I don't hear y'all laughing now, bitches.......

Or Browns will trade back to acquire more picks. But Dorsey seems to have hired staff from Green Bay and KC.

Browns hire Eliot Wolf as assistant GM and Alonzo Highsmith as VP of Player Personnel | cleveland.com

Report: Three NFL teams have called Broncos about draft trade
The Miami Dolphins, Buffalo Bills and Arizona Cardinals are interested in the No. 5 overall pick. https://247sports.com/nfl/denver-...alled-Broncos-about-NFL-draft-trade-117597872

Draft is 2 days, 3 hours away.

 

[ACamp1900]

yeah they seem to have hired a very well respected front office this time around... we will see.

 

[RDU Irish]

The thing that makes all of the Browns #1 rumors so great is that you could easily see them doing any of the above. Completely unpredictable except for the probability that one year later whatever QB they end up with will likely be on the street looking for a job.

 

[Legacy]

The surprising rankings of best and worst NFL teams at drafting (April 21, 2018)
https://nypost.com/2018/04/21/giants-jets-cant-crack-top-10-most-successful-teams-at-draft/

Most of the picks won’t work out. Some will be OK, and a few will be franchise changers. We examined the past five drafts (2013-17) to see which teams have been the best at drafting and which have been the worst to formulate our fourth annual draft rankings. Some teams have started to figure things out while others have slipped.

The rankings are based on: how many games the draft pick has played, Pro Bowl appearances, first-team All-Pro selections and awards like MVP and Rookie of the Year. We also factored in how much the team has won during the five years, because players on losing teams tend to have an easier path to playing time.

32. Colts
31. Bills
30. Broncos
29. Patriots
28. Saints
27. Browns
26. 49ers

Prior to the 2017 draft the worst teams drafting over the previous 5 years were:
32. Saints
31. Broncos
30. Browns
29. Jaguars
28. 49ers
27. Chargers
26. Jets

Studying 5 years of NFL drafts to find best, worst teams at picking (April 22, 2017)
https://nypost.com/2017/04/22/studying-5-years-of-nfl-drafts-to-find-best-worst-teams-at-picking/

We looked at who is best and worst at drafting over the past five years in our third annual team draft rankings. No one nails it year after year, but there are some teams doing a much better job than others.

The rankings are based on: how many games the draft pick has played, Pro Bowl appearances, first-team All-Pro selections, and awards like MVP and Rookie of the Year. We also factored in how much the team has won during the five years, because players on losing teams tend to have an easier path to playing time.

 

[ACamp1900]

I want Rashaad Penny in the later rounds... such better value than Barkley and I honestly think Penny's style and skills will translate better... If we come out of this with a QB to build with, Chubb, and Penny I can't really complain.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

So, there is a lot of smoke about 4 QBs being taken in the first 5 picks. New proposal for you Browns fans:

If you can still pick your top QB at #1 but somebody comes in an offers to trade for your #4 pick. They offer to swap you first rounders and give you a first and third next year. This team would hypothetically be trading up from 10-17th spot.

Would you make that deal?

Again, it's imperative the Browns keep their draft capital high before they start winning. They will lose much of their draft placement equity built up from the abysmal past seasons. I'd make that trade in a heartbeat.

 

[Rack Em]

So, there is a lot of smoke about 4 QBs being taken in the first 5 picks. New proposal for you Browns fans:

If you can still pick your top QB at #1 but somebody comes in an offers to trade for your #4 pick. They offer to swap you first rounders and give you a first and third next year. This team would hypothetically be trading up from 10-17th spot.

Would you make that deal?

Again, it's imperative the Browns keep their draft capital high before they start winning. They will lose much of their draft placement equity built up from the abysmal past seasons. I'd make that trade in a heartbeat.

Not a Browns fan, but I'm interested to see where they take this team.

If Chubb is available, no trade. Because, for the most part, the teams in the 10-17 range aren't likely to bottom out and net the Browns a top 10 pick next season. I think the Browns will already have a top 10 pick next draft and at some point you have to stop "rebuilding" and start playing.

If Chubb isn't available, I'd 100% take that trade from the Bills if they net 12 and 22. Draft a combination of DB/DT/OT with those picks.

Actually, I might make the trade you proposed if the Browns felt like they could trade that pick during this draft and move back into the first round and have 3 first rounders in this draft. But ONLY if that was a slam dunk.

 

[IrishLion]

For the record, I dislike all of the quarterbacks in this draft. It’s bonkers to me that in a draft so inept of “sure thing” QB prospects that there will be such a run on them.

My faves are Baker and Lamar, and ironically, they aren’t the ones being coveted. They are the only ones where I look back on their college career and would have been scared to play them. The only ones that could be depended on to take over a game and put their team on their back. Hell... Allen couldn’t even throw for 60% at Wyoming for crying out loud. Just my take...

Here here.

I'd rank them 1a and 1b, and the designation doesn't matter.

I think Lamar Jackson is falling victim to a bunch of old white guys that are still kind of scared of black QB's (look no further than his accomplishments vs Allen's, and against vastly superior competition, and then look at how Allen's flaws are written off while Jackson's are expounded upon).

I think Baker Mayfield is head-and-shoulders above Darnold and Rosen, but that's just my opinion. I think people are too concerned with his on-field antics and that ONE time he got in trouble off the field, and they end up looking past how solid he is from top-to-bottom as a pure QB prospect.

Darnold is turnover prone and looks like maybe he's mentally fragile, while Rosen can't protect himself in the pocket or stay healthy. Mayfield is neither of those things. He only lacks height, and he proved at Oklahoma that he's fine throwing with anticipation over the middle to make up for that.

I'd honestly love to see Hue Jackson build an offense around Mayfield if I were a Browns fan. He's not gonna turn the ball over like Darnold, he's not fragile like Rosen, and he doesn't have the accuracy questions like Allen. Most importantly, you know he's going to be the most pissed off guy in the football building if they keep losing games... and I think you need that from the franchise QB, especially when it's a guy like Mayfield that appears capable of shouldering the criticism and pulling his teammates along with him.

 

[connor_in]

SIAP


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AM | The trend of underclassmen leaving for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFL</a> is more prevalent at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LSU?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LSU</a> than anywhere else. <br><br>Over the past 6 seasons, the Tigers lead the nation with 32 (~6 a year) non-seniors to leave early, 8 more than the next team.<a href="https://t.co/NQVo1Ibbhy">https://t.co/NQVo1Ibbhy</a> <a href="https://t.co/jnpzX1AUz4">pic.twitter.com/jnpzX1AUz4</a></p>— Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) <a href="https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/989121094320840704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[beryirish]

^^am i missing something as to why the numbers breakdown don't match the total reported?

 

[ab2cmiller]

Josh Rosen calls out 4 QB's in one fell swoop. One of those being our buddy Blake Barnett. LOL

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">josh rosen snapped on em <a href="https://t.co/NVqYk6b7M2">pic.twitter.com/NVqYk6b7M2</a></p>— Jordan Heck (@JordanHeckFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/JordanHeckFF/status/988870462443835393?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Irish#1]

^^am i missing something as to why the numbers breakdown don't match the total reported?

Looks like Ross failed basic math.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

^^am i missing something as to why the numbers breakdown don't match the total reported?

I'm thinking they are including guys who declared this year, in which they have not been drafted yet.

 

[Irish#1]

Read on ESPN that the rumors of the Browns going with Mayfield is just a smoke screen.