2018 Fall Camp Thread

[Some Irish Bloke]

Not really.

Question though:

Couldn’t you strategically plan a season around two QBs that could actually work for everyone’s benefit?

I realize these are young atheletes we are talking about, but football is football. The physicality of it at the collegiate level has to fatigue the mental game.

In order to keep the legs fresh and the mind sharp, couldn’t you reserve Wimbush for games that would be more advantageous for a dual quarterback whose primary strength is running.

For the games that require more of the pass and are less daunting competitively, play Book.

How unorthodox of a strategy would this be? I know this is much like QB by committee, which goes against the general consensus for one guy at the helm. I don’t mean flip flopping throughout the game, plugging in QBs here and there. This would be more of a game by game rotation with BW seeing the majority of the games on the schedule with a few should-wins where Book can provide some reprieve.

Just wondering... I know this would never happen.

@ Texas 2016 says, "ew" to any multiple QB situation.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Last media day is today. Then we wait, for

 

[stlnd01]

Has anyone looked at RB production with the respective QBs under center? Seems to me BW takes carries away from the RBs so wouldn't it also be fair to look at total rushing production to see if Book is opening up the run game? All this credit is given to BW for adjusting his QBR for his rushing stats but what if total rushing production is just as good under Book?

I thought the general theory was that a running QB often opens up opportunities for the RBs because the defense also has to account for his legs on options, draw plays, etc. He may take carries from the RBs, but the carries they get may be more productive. In theory, at least.

 

[dublinirish]

Last media day is today. Then we wait, for

SCUM does not let any media in to see any of their practices. We are blessed with what we have tbh

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

SCUM does not let any media in to see any of their practices. We are blessed with what we have tbh

Sounds like Harbaugh is a nervous bird.

 

[arrowryan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Kelly Bunch <a href="https://t.co/fBcHmowuBC">pic.twitter.com/fBcHmowuBC</a></p>— One Foot Down (@OneFootDown) <a href="https://twitter.com/OneFootDown/status/1029517397592616960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 14, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[stlnd01]

SCUM does not let any media in to see any of their practices. We are blessed with what we have tbh

Doesn’t USC, though, typically have a very open practice policy?

 

[dublinirish]

Doesn’t USC, though, typically have a very open practice policy?

as far as i know under Carroll every single practice was open for media. I think it's still the same. Sam Darnold's grandparents attended every single one of his practices as invited guests. An NCAA rule makes August a recruiting dead period, so practices during fall training camp must be closed to the public, except invited guests of the athletic department

 

[Irish#1]

Football is about repetition not trial and error. It's much easier for the other players to groove around 1 QB than it is 2. The OL, for instance, adapts to the QB cadence to get off the ball quicker. There are 100 other reasons why a QB by committee does not work - Tebow and Leak say hello.

Please list #2 thru #100.

 

[IrishLion]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Kelly Bunch <a href="https://t.co/fBcHmowuBC">pic.twitter.com/fBcHmowuBC</a></p>— One Foot Down (@OneFootDown) <a href="https://twitter.com/OneFootDown/status/1029517397592616960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 14, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That is perfect, right down to Brandon's "aw dammit" clap.

 

[Irish#1]

as far as i know under Carroll every single practice was open for media and fans. I think it's still the same. Sam Darnold's grandparents attended every single one of his practices.

The must have wrapped up early enough so they could get the seniors discount before 4:00PM.

 

[ulukinatme]

If we go two QBs, I'm not worried. People will cite the 2016 Texas game, but there were a lot of factors going into that one that contributed to problems (Primarily on defense), and there's no guarantee we win if Kizer takes all the snaps because Zaire only had a few series when all was said and done.

Kelly has shown more often than not that he can win when he plays two different QBs: 2014 LSU, 2018 LSU, 2012 Purdue, and similar situations at Cincinnati.

 

[arrowryan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Walking out of Notre Dame’s final open practice of the year. Guys who stood out (in a good way):<br><br>Chris Finke<br>Avery Davis<br>Asmar Bilal<br>George Takacs<br>Cole Kmet<br>Ian Book<br>Alohi Gilman<br>Josh Lugg<br>Joe Wilkins<br>Nic Weishar</p>— Pete Sampson (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/1029763127578173441?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As for Brandon Wimbush, it was another mixed bag. Had a nice touchdown to Alize Mack in the red zone.<br><br>Also threw a couple picks (Gilman, Simon), with a third dropped (Fertitta).</p>— Pete Sampson (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/1029763895110582272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[arrowryan]

I have a weird feeling Ian Book will be the starter.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

I'd like to see how bad the ints are/aren't.

Could be wrong routes, tipped passes, or just play old ugly.

 

[Denny]

Isaiah Robertson moved to WR.

 

[arrowryan]

Isiah Robertson moved to WR.

Yup. Wondering if they put him there because they like the starters and depth at linebacker, so they moved him to WR to use his athleticism elsewhere?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NotreDame</a> has a new WR on the roster...sophomore Isaiah Robertson has moved to WR from LB.</p>— Matt Freeman (@mattfreemanISD) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattfreemanISD/status/1029766653947641856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[arrowryan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brian Kelly says WR Kevin Austin Jr. has volume and skill set to get on the field.</p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/1029767346964111365?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kelly states they are working on situational football to end practices.</p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/1029767624811532288?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[arrowryan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kelly states OL Robert Hainsey will return on Tuesday.</p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/1029767807511224321?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brian Kelly says Robert Hainsey will be back Tuesday, following a 7-to-8 day recovery from lower leg injury. Starting right tackle missed the past few practices.</p>— Pete Sampson (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/1029767997429374976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Standouts from Wednesday's Practice <br><br>- CB Troy Pride Jr. <br>- WR Chris Finke<br>- WR Kevin Austin Jr. <br>- LB Asmar Bilal <br>- RB/WR Avery Davis <br>- DE Khalid Kareem</p>— Matt Freeman (@mattfreemanISD) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattfreemanISD/status/1029767457744015360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[arrowryan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kelly says freshman CB TaRiq Bracy can go all day and has been impressive during Sp.Teams work.</p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/1029768827930898433?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brian Kelly again raves about Jafar Armstrong and his ability to take massive amount of reps in camp. "I haven’t seen a guy like him."</p>— Pete Sampson (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/1029769066490351616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BK says DE Daelin Hayes went light today because of tendonitis.</p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/1029769122232639489?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kelly says DE Daelin Hayes has patella tendinitis, adds that it’s not serious and more of a “camp injury.”</p>— Alex Wilcox (@AlexWilcoxTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlexWilcoxTV/status/1029769356232798208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[zelezo vlk]

Getting Hainsey back is big

 

[Luckylucci]

I'd like to see how bad the ints are/aren't.
Could be wrong routes, tipped passes, or just play old ugly.

It wouldn't surprise me if some of those INT's are because he's forcing the ball. Similar to what we've been told in the past, coaches want him to hang in their and throw the ball so he can work on his accuracy. Though he struggles with accuracy, he actually doesn't throw a lot of INT's. He's actually quite conservative with regards to that, as he'll either take off and run, or just eat it. INT's haven't been the issue.

In fact, statistically Wimbush has less of a problem with INT's than Book. If you look at INT to TD ratio and INT per attempts or completions.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

It wouldn't surprise me if some of those INT's are because he's forcing the ball. Similar to what we've been told in the past, coaches want him to hang in their and throw the ball so he can work on his accuracy. Though he struggles with accuracy, he actually doesn't throw a lot of INT's. He's actually quite conservative with regards to that, as he'll either take off and run, or just eat it. INT's haven't been the issue.

In fact, statistically Wimbush has less of a problem with INT's than Book. If you look at INT to TD ratio and INT per attempts or completions.

Yep, this is what I'm curious about. It's practice, so I doubt he's going to be throwing too many into the stands to play it safe.

 

[arrowryan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Avery Davis (had a nice practice today) still learning how to recover from the grind of playing running back. Brian Kelly doesn’t think he ever really had to do that as a quarterback.</p>— Pete Sampson (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/1029771003176673280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kelly says they want to be demanding but never demeaning in S&C program.</p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/1029771211969110023?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brian Kelly addresses culture in a football program: “Everything is my responsibility.”</p>— Pete Sampson (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/1029771379045003264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kelly says RB Tony Jones Jr. has run physical. Challenged him to be consistent in all situations.</p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/1029771442303459329?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[arrowryan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brian Kelly talking running backs and that quote includes: "Obviously Dex is going to continue to work and see how that plays out."</p>— Pete Sampson (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/1029771642661208065?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brian Kelly on the situation surrounding Maryland football- he said the line that he has drawn for his program is "being demanding, not demeaning"<br>He also noted importance of relationship between Strength staff & Head Coach.</p>— Olivia Ray (@OliviaRayWSBT) <a href="https://twitter.com/OliviaRayWSBT/status/1029771669727006720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[NDMIA]

Getting Hainsey back is big

Yea and luckily he’s got another 8-9 practices left before Michigan so that starting unit can continue to gel. If he were practicing just the day before Michigan there might be some issues but it’ll be nice for them to get more cohesive as a unit especially with Michigan coming to town.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Yea and luckily he’s got another 8-9 practices left before Michigan so that starting unit can continue to gel. If he were practicing just the day before Michigan there might be some issues but it’ll be nice for them to get more cohesive as a unit especially with Michigan coming to town.

It's weird though, somebody must be wrong. Jamie at ISD has it that BK said Hainsey is being shut down for a week or so

 

[greyhammer90]

It's weird though, somebody must be wrong. Jamie at ISD has it that BK said Hainsey is being shut down for a week or so

I think that's consistent with what is being reported. 7-8 days, he's expected back next Tuesday.

 

[dublinirish]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A very good article summing up the Fuente-to-Beamer transition. Interesting tidbits in there include fact that Brian Kelly offered Bud Foster the Notre Dame DC position in January and he declined. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Hokies?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Hokies</a> <a href="https://t.co/z0HGDkntoz">https://t.co/z0HGDkntoz</a></p>— Andy Bitter (@AndyBitterVT) <a href="https://twitter.com/AndyBitterVT/status/1029767730843529216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[zelezo vlk]

I think that's consistent with what is being reported. 7-8 days, he's expected back next Tuesday.

Damn it, I thought it was still Monday and am thinking tomorrow