2018 CFP Rankings

[OhioIrish31]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">College Football Playoff committee chair Rob Mullens on Notre Dame’s proximity to Alabama/Clemson versus its proximity to Michigan/Georgia. Irish lumped with Wolverines and Bulldogs.<br><br>Personally, I’d consider them more a group of one at No. 3. But I’m not on the committee. <a href="https://t.co/GUVJWqaUKp">pic.twitter.com/GUVJWqaUKp</a></p>— Pete Sampson (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/1065051787458224129?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 21, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is fucking absurd. In no universe are we closer to Michigan than Clemson. The bias is insane they are fluffing SEC teams so hard and positioning ND to get the 4 seed after Michigan wins Big Ten. The disrespect of WSU is insane (even though they maybe lose to Washington this week) they are CLEARLY more deserving of a top ranking than LSU. LSU couldn’t even handle fucking Arkansas!

Every person on this committee should be fired and Rob Mullens lobotomized.

Let them (and everyone) underestimate ND to their demise.

 

[RallySonsOfND]

Sorry not sorry USC, but it looks like we need to score 100 on you just to prove a point to the committee.

 

[IrishLax]

I don’t know how this committee went downhill so fast. Anyone know how long this clown Mullens will be in charge? They are literally not even applying their own criteria... they are just making shit up as they see fit so they stick ND at #4 despite their being no objective or subjective argument to support that being reasonable.

Go Ohio State.

 

[NDMIA]

Let them (and everyone) underestimate ND to their demise.

ND has a better SOS, ESPN Strength of Record, and more top 25 wins than both teams ahead of them. Only thing that Bama and Clemson really have is margin of victory average (eye test is what they call it but it’s obviously margin of victory). Cause the eye test would also say we dominated Michigan except for them scoring at the end to make it look close. Bama’s best win was at an offense-less LSU and then Mississippi State who doesn’t have an offense either. The telling sign of fraudulence by the committee is this

Alabama - #1 (AP), #1 (Coaches), #1 (CFP)
Georgia - #5 (AP), #5 (Coaches), #5 (CFP)
LSU - #8 (AP), #8 (Coaches), #7 (CFP)
Florida - #13 (AP), #13 (Coaches), #11 (CFP)
Miss State - #22 (AP), #20 (Coaches), #18 (CFP)
Texas A&M - NR (AP), NR (Coaches), #22 (CFP)

There’s not one team rated below their rankings in the CFP Rankings. It’s ridiculous. Every single SEC team has been given brownie points which, in turn, makes their SOS look better cause they keep floating mediocre and flawed teams well above their actual level of talent. I mean the CFP committee should just take the 247Sports recruiting rankings and make a tournament with the 4 best teams cause they clearly just look at who has more stars and not what they are actually doing during the season.

 

[Circa]

ND has a better SOS, ESPN Strength of Record, and more top 25 wins than both teams ahead of them. Only thing that Bama and Clemson really have is margin of victory average (eye test is what they call it but it’s obviously margin of victory). Cause the eye test would also say we dominated Michigan except for them scoring at the end to make it look close. Bama’s best win was at an offense-less LSU and then Mississippi State who doesn’t have an offense either. The telling sign of fraudulence by the committee is this

Alabama - #1 (AP), #1 (Coaches), #1 (CFP)
Georgia - #5 (AP), #5 (Coaches), #5 (CFP)
LSU - #8 (AP), #8 (Coaches), #7 (CFP)
Florida - #13 (AP), #13 (Coaches), #11 (CFP)
Miss State - #22 (AP), #20 (Coaches), #18 (CFP)
Texas A&M - NR (AP), NR (Coaches), #22 (CFP)

There’s not one team rated below their rankings in the CFP Rankings. It’s ridiculous. Every single SEC team has been given brownie points which, in turn, makes their SOS look better cause they keep floating mediocre and flawed teams well above their actual level of talent. I mean the CFP committee should just take the 247Sports recruiting rankings and make a tournament with the 4 best teams cause they clearly just look at who has more stars and not what they are actually doing during the season.

Don't forget the opening 2nd half kickoff return. They scored 1 TD offensively against us In GARBAGE time. If we bring our juice today... They don't score 1 point.

 

[IrishLax]

In the polls... which are frankly way more objective at this point than this “committee”... the gap between ND and Michigan is huge. The gap between ND and Clemson is small. There is not a single AP voter that has ND 4th... yet Rob Mullens is having a “tough time” debating ND and Michigan.

Get the fuck out of here.

 

[NDShark]

Imagine winning next week and missing the playoffs because Georgia and Michigan win the SEC and B1G

 

[Circa]

In the polls... which are frankly way more objective at this point than this “committee”... the gap between ND and Michigan is huge. The gap between ND and Clemson is small. There is not a single AP voter that has ND 4th... yet Rob Mullens is having a “tough time” debating ND and Michigan.

Get the fuck out of here.

Dude Ok'd their Uniforms and got his balls busted. Yet when Nike gets investigated he leads the committee? Even his team won on cheap shit like this mostly....

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I just wish I could hear George's voice.

 

[Irish YJ]

In the polls... which are frankly way more objective at this point than this “committee”... the gap between ND and Michigan is huge. The gap between ND and Clemson is small. There is not a single AP voter that has ND 4th... yet Rob Mullens is having a “tough time” debating ND and Michigan.

Get the fuck out of here.

Mullens went to Miami in the early/mid 90s, and worked in the ACC and SEC before going to Oregon. Might he dislike ND and favor the SEC?

i wish they published votes/points

 

[greyhammer90]

In all seriousness when did every football thread become Circa's shitty tumblr?

I'm more convinced than ever that we're getting dropped to 4 after the conference championships and will be made to play Bama. They're going to soft punish us for not re-beating a team we already beat in a 13th game scrimmage.

 

[Circa]

In all seriousness when did every football thread become Circa's shitty tumblr?

I'm more convinced than ever that we're getting dropped to 4 after the conference championships and will be made to play Bama. They're going to soft punish us for not re-beating a team we already beat in a 13th game scrimmage.

Seriously.
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I'm still working on my thesis to all those that are buthurt. Until then I'll try to be more on point.

 

[Luckylucci]

This is why I stopped watching the CFP rankings show 2 weeks ago. It’s all just complete BS and the committee is a complete joke.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Yall know they're just trying to get people worked up, right?

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[IrishFaninTX]

So in 2012 ND loses 42-14 to Bama. We are blasted in the media and generally thought to have not belonged in the title game despite being the ONLY undefeated team that season. Fast forward to 2018, LSU gets throttled 29-0 by Bama, they already have a loss so now 2 losses, and the CFP ranks them #7. SEC bias at it's finest!

 

[Crazy Balki]

Taking away FCS wins for the teams ranked 11-20

11. Florida (7-3)
Penn St (8-3)
West Va (7-2) (NC St game was cancelled)
Texas (8-3)
15. Kentucky (7-3)
Wash (7-3)
Utah (7-3)
Miss St (6-4)
NW (7-4)
20. Syracuse (7-3)

Big 10 teams and Texas did not play FCS teams.

Would you rerank any?

Penn State for sure. Penn State has beaten absolutely no one to date. The only legitimately good team they played throttled them. They lost at home to a bad Michigan State team. Also needed OT to edge out Appalachian State and looked terrible against Rutgers who is an FCS team in all but name.

 

[arrowryan]

I don't think UM will ever jump ND this year. Like some of you said, the playoff ranking reveals have been quite boring because everyone that should be winning has been doing just that. As long as Notre Dame takes cares of business this weekend, then Notre Dame secured the #3 spot with the impressive Syracuse win IMO. The committee chairmen can say whatever he wants, but I think its truly to add drama to the show.

Now, in the scenario that UM did jump Notre Dame, then everyone on the playoff committee should be fired.Michigan has shown literally nothing that would make anyone say "Michigan is better than Notre Dame". Notre Dame is better than Michigan and ND would beat UM by 10+ if they played again.

 

[Rack Em]

Something we haven't discussed yet is Syracuse dropping to 8 spots to #20.

To me that's an unprecedented drop for this committee and a drop that is setting ND up to be moved to #4 should Syracuse lose to BC this weekend.

In week 12, Miss St dropped 5 spots (16-21) for losing 29-0 to Alabama and Kentucky dropped 6 spots (11-17) for losing 24-7 to Tennessee! There is nothing consistent about dropping Syracuse (playing with a backup QB) 8 spots for losing to #3 ND. Nothing. Kentucky was penalized less for losing to an unranked, POS team.

Look at the rankings right now and who ND has beaten in the top 25. The most likely scenario moving forward is:
- Syracuse loses to BC
- Northwestern loses to OSU/Michigan in the B1GOT CC
- Pitt loses to Clemson in the ACC CC
- ND is left with 1 win over a top 25 opponent while Michigan would be left with wins over a ranked OSU team and #12 PSU

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Herbstreit seems to have developed a little attitude towards his co-workers recently

I've noticed this, it is more apparent on these rankings shows than it is on Gameday, but he has a really short fuse, particularly with Pollack. Interrupting and getting worked up for no reason. The panel is on the show to debate and disagree, that's the point.

I'm generally a big Herbie fan given his knowledge and (usually) unbiased opinions, but he's losing me a bit this year. (I'm sure this is keeping him up at night lol). The B1G is clearly down and not what people expect, yet he keeps propping up scUM regardless.

If OSU beat's scUM and beats NW, do they really jump up 6 spots to #4? that would be wild, considering how watered down the B1G truly is.

They AREN'T who we thought they were!

 

[koonja]

What is Herbies alleged beef with Pollack over? Or what was said?

 

[Rack Em]

I've noticed this, it is more apparent on these rankings shows than it is on Gameday, but he has a really short fuse, particularly with Pollack. Interrupting and getting worked up for no reason. The panel is on the show to debate and disagree, that's the point.

I'm generally a big Herbie fan given his knowledge and (usually) unbiased opinions, but he's losing me a bit this year. (I'm sure this is keeping him up at night lol). The B1G is clearly down and not what people expect, yet he keeps propping up scUM regardless.

If OSU beat's scUM and beats NW, do they really jump up 6 spots to #4? that would be wild, considering how watered down the B1G truly is.

They AREN'T who we thought they were!

And since the committee is giving soooooo much credence to the eye-test, it would be even crazier since OSU got buttfucked at Purdue and should have lost to Maryland.

Honestly, after Georgia I don't know how to rank anyone. 1-6 are pretty obvious. Wazzu at 7 seems okay, even though I'm not completely buying them.

8+ is just one big abyss. If the committee ranked Utah State #8, I'd probably be fine with it because the blue bloods in the top 15 don't scare me at all.

 

[Rack Em]

In all seriousness when did every football thread become Circa's shitty tumblr?

Thank God someone said it because I've been so confused.

Circa, your gifs don't even make sense!

 

[NorthDakota]

Imagine winning next week and missing the playoffs because Georgia and Michigan win the SEC and B1G

If they pulled that shit i would go postal.

 

[Irish8248]

Thank God someone said it because I've been so confused.

Circa, your gifs don't even make sense!

Hes like Quagmire when he discovers internet porn

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

What is Herbies alleged beef with Pollack over? Or what was said?

Herbie just has a short fuse lately and interrupts Pollack quite frequently. Pollack fired back a few weeks ago basically saying "Jeeze, we have an hour can I talk?" Mostly, their debates have been centered around ND/scUM and that ridiculous debate. Pollack is camp "why play the game if head to head doesn't matter" and herbie is "eye test eye test eye test." Which was kind of settled (for now) yesterday. Herbie still seems annoyed with the crew on the show for some reason.

He just seems off tbh. I'll see if i can dig up some vid but not sure. Kind of awkward lately between those guys, would be interested to see if there was a shakeup next season.

 

[irishnd31]

Herbie just has a short fuse lately and interrupts Pollack quite frequently. Pollack fired back a few weeks ago basically saying "Jeeze, we have an hour can I talk?" Mostly, their debates have been centered around ND/scUM and that ridiculous debate. Pollack is camp "why play the game if head to head doesn't matter" and herbie is "eye test eye test eye test." Which was kind of settled (for now) yesterday. Herbie still seems annoyed with the crew on the show for some reason.

He just seems off tbh. I'll see if i can dig up some vid but not sure. Kind of awkward lately between those guys, would be interested to see if there was a shakeup next season.

Yeah, yesterday really stands out and the one Im surprised no one mentioned yet is Rece Davis seemed annoyed last night. If I remember correctly he asked a question along the lines of "What would you do...….?" and there was a mix up with others thinking about what the committee would do. Was waiting for Rece to blow a fuse and fire back with a sarcastic remark as no one seemed to understand how to answer.

Even Herbie seems disenchanted and annoyed with Galloway. Two Buckeyes just not feeling each other right now.


Another thing that stands out is Herbie always preaches to everyone (fans) to relax and take a breather when the initial rankings come out and "let it play out". This is not the case this year as there has been little to no shake up below #6 and really nothing in the Top 4 after the LSU loss. I laughed when a few on the show made reference to the fact that this is an hour show and acted like, "What the hell are we supposed to talk about?"

 

[calvegas04]

Herbie just has a short fuse lately and interrupts Pollack quite frequently. Pollack fired back a few weeks ago basically saying "Jeeze, we have an hour can I talk?" Mostly, their debates have been centered around ND/scUM and that ridiculous debate. Pollack is camp "why play the game if head to head doesn't matter" and herbie is "eye test eye test eye test." Which was kind of settled (for now) yesterday. Herbie still seems annoyed with the crew on the show for some reason.

He just seems off tbh. I'll see if i can dig up some vid but not sure. Kind of awkward lately between those guys, would be interested to see if there was a shakeup next season.

I think Herbie is too biased every year, sadly he is ESPN's puppet and will be on air for many many more years

 

[wizards8507]

Something we haven't discussed yet is Syracuse dropping to 8 spots to #20.

To me that's an unprecedented drop for this committee and a drop that is setting ND up to be moved to #4 should Syracuse lose to BC this weekend.

In week 12, Miss St dropped 5 spots (16-21) for losing 29-0 to Alabama and Kentucky dropped 6 spots (11-17) for losing 24-7 to Tennessee! There is nothing consistent about dropping Syracuse (playing with a backup QB) 8 spots for losing to #3 ND. Nothing. Kentucky was penalized less for losing to an unranked, POS team.

Look at the rankings right now and who ND has beaten in the top 25. The most likely scenario moving forward is:
- Syracuse loses to BC
- Northwestern loses to OSU/Michigan in the B1GOT CC
- Pitt loses to Clemson in the ACC CC
- ND is left with 1 win over a top 25 opponent while Michigan would be left with wins over a ranked OSU team and #12 PSU

The whole thing is a cluster.

How is it mathematically possible that there are only TWO two-loss Power 5 teams in the entire country? At this point last year, there were eight. We have five one-loss teams, three undefeated teams, and only two two-loss teams. I see everyone from Florida down to Syracuse as basically tied for 11th.

The conferences themselves are also insanely imbalanced this year.

SEC West >>>>> SEC East
ACC Atlantic >>>>> ACC Coastal
Big 10 East >>>>> Big 10 West
Pac 12 North >>>>> Pac 12 South

Even in the Group of 5

American East >>>>> American West
C-USA East >>>>> C-USA West
Sun Belt Group A >>>>> Sun Belt Group B

MAC and Mountain West are fairly balanced.

 

[ND88]

Herbie just has a short fuse lately and interrupts Pollack quite frequently. Pollack fired back a few weeks ago basically saying "Jeeze, we have an hour can I talk?" Mostly, their debates have been centered around ND/scUM and that ridiculous debate. Pollack is camp "why play the game if head to head doesn't matter" and herbie is "eye test eye test eye test." Which was kind of settled (for now) yesterday. Herbie still seems annoyed with the crew on the show for some reason.

He just seems off tbh. I'll see if i can dig up some vid but not sure. Kind of awkward lately between those guys, would be interested to see if there was a shakeup next season.

They almost always conference the guy in from his glorified equipment manager's office so that he can pontificate to the pencil-necks who have to share cubicles next to each other. Only on Gamedays does he share space with the lessers so that he can rub Corso like he's the fountain of youth and sell more wieners to pad his check. He's always been kind of lame, but this year, he's really shown out.

 

[koonja]

Thanks guys.

I think Herbie is so used to being the only one on set with a brain, as Desmond and Corso aren't very intelligent.

Pollock and Jesse Palmer are actually intelligence and he doesnt like being challenged.

 

[wizards8507]

Thanks guys.

I think Herbie is so used to being the only one on set with a brain, as Desmond and Corso aren't very intelligent.

Pollock and Jesse Palmer are actually intelligence and he doesnt like being challenged.

Pollack. Pollock is a fish.