2016 Presidential Horse Race

2016 Presidential Horse Race


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NDinL.A.

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Really? You'd be wrong, yet again.

He's not being serious man....I hope you know that....but...

He doesn't know that. How he couldn't see the hyperbole of an oft-used phrase is beyond me, but there's a reason Trump loves the "poorly educated".

Go fly a kite BGIF. You're WAY different than I had you pegged when we were both mods. Starting to think I backed the wrong horse when you banned Nuetered.
 

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30 years ago OC was much cheaper to live in

Yeah, it was much more white and working class. Not sure what you're point is? White people only live where it's expensive or working class whites moved to places like Riverside?
 
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Boss says employees who agree with Trump's rhetoric should resign | Fox News.

Grubhub faces backlash after CEO's anti-Trump email to employees - Chicago Tribune

Not the brightest move by a CEO. I imagine those he employs who did vote for Trump are consulting with attorneys now they know they work in a hostile work environment.

I couldn't see the actual phrasing on the letter...

I get sending out a message re-iterating corporate values etc. w/o accusing anyone or picking sides...sounds like that isn't what he did. If you are going to be dumb...you better be tough, because the world will come to kick your ass when you lash out like that...SMH.
 

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I couldn't see the actual phrasing on the letter...

I get sending out a message re-iterating corporate values etc. w/o accusing anyone or picking sides...sounds like that isn't what he did. If you are going to be dumb...you better be tough, because the world will come to kick your ass when you lash out like that...SMH.

Based on what I read it sounds like a smart move. If you're employees start acting like Donald you're going to have a sexual harassment lawsuit on your hands pretty quickly. If I said any of the crap he did during his campaign at work I have no doubt I would be fired.
 

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Based on what I read it sounds like a smart move. If you're employees start acting like Donald you're going to have a sexual harassment lawsuit on your hands pretty quickly. If I said any of the crap he did during his campaign at work I have no doubt I would be fired.

What, your HR department doesn't let you grab 'em by the pussy?
 

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Based on what I read it sounds like a smart move. If you're employees start acting like Donald and you're going to have a sexual harassment lawsuit on your hands pretty quickly.

I just read his message...Meh. I think he could have reinforced his values w/o naming Trump....VERY easily. He was lashing out.

I think most employees would just shrug, and do what they do...but I wouldn't be shocked if some clown who was going to get fired for sucking at his job doesn't try and use the hostile work environment thing...it is not at all a stretch to argue this email is making it permissible to his underlings to treat Trump supporters poorly.

As well, I don't know his business...but he just alienated a big chunk of people.

When you are a leader/business owner, your actions impact the lives of your employees. That is an AWESOME responsibility. So which of his employees will he lay off when the business feels repercussions from what he said. Wonder if they will wish he'd have just reinforced the corporate values.

I stand by my comment...if you are going to be dumb, you better be tough.

EDIT: And here is his walk back statement...which is the kind of message he should have sent in the first place...and apparently he knows it too.

"11/10/2016

This year’s presidential election was undoubtedly divisive and left many of our employees feeling concerned. In response, I wrote a company-wide email that was intended to advocate for inclusion and tolerance -- regardless of political affiliation -- during this time of transition for our country.

Some of the statements in my email (please see full text below) have been misconstrued. I want to clarify that I did not ask for anyone to resign if they voted for Trump. I would never make such a demand. To the contrary, the message of the email is that we do not tolerate discriminatory activity or hateful commentary in the workplace, and that we will stand up for our employees.

Grubhub welcomes and accepts employees with all political beliefs, no matter who they voted for in this or any election. We do not discriminate on the basis of someone's principles, or political or other beliefs.

I deeply respect the right of all citizens to vote for the candidate of their choice. In fact, I offered extra flexibility on Tuesday and encouraged all our employees to go vote. There is a place for all points of view at Grubhub. We value diverse perspectives and believe those perspectives help to create a better product and a better workplace culture.

Grubhub’s leadership team has worked for years to create a culture of support and inclusiveness. I firmly believe that we must bring together different perspectives to continue innovating. We are better, faster and stronger together, and so is America.

Posted by Matt Maloney, Grubhub CEO"
 
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What the hell is going on?

Heard a very good analogy on the way into work. A lot of democrats stayed home which hurt HRC big time. A lot of those that voted for HRC are the "participation trophies for everyone" generation that are crying, screaming and going to Twitter and FB trying to make everyone else feel bad because they do. Rather than playing sports and losing or participating in the science fair and not getting a ribbon (learning life lessons at the same time) they don't know how to handle losing because they've been coddled all their life. They all walked away with trophies and ribbons just for showing up and came to expect to be satisfied the same way with this election.
 

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That's a journalist for the Guardian. Not some troll high school student.

I'll bet the FBI has a little chat with her. They don't take these things lightly.
 

NDPhilly

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My FRENCH professor just spent the first 15 minutes of class literally holding back tears and sniffling talking to us about the rise of white rationalism across Europe and the US and how we, millennials, can stop it. Word for word after arriving 5 minutes late "Sorry...it's just been a really tough two days". I was holding back laughter the whole time.

My Financial Accounting class last night was even better than this. My usual financial accounting class that runs from 6:30 to 9:30 on Thursday nights what cut short by over 2 hours because the professor, who is a man in his mid 40s, was "too depressed to talk about accounting for 3 hours". We came in, took our usual 20 minute quiz, and then he just decided to dejectedly talk about how disappointed he was in the US for 30 minutes and how Hillary "as a woman" deserved it.
 

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Heard a very good analogy on the way into work. A lot of democrats stayed home which hurt HRC big time. A lot of those that voted for HRC are the "participation trophies for everyone" generation that are crying, screaming and going to Twitter and FB trying to make everyone else feel bad because they do. Rather than playing sports and losing or participating in the science fair and not getting a ribbon (learning life lessons at the same time) they don't know how to handle losing because they've been coddled all their life. They all walked away with trophies and ribbons just for showing up and came to expect to be satisfied the same way with this election.

Very true!
 

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My Financial Accounting class last night was even better than this. My usual financial accounting class that runs from 6:30 to 9:30 on Thursday nights what cut short by over 2 hours because the professor, who is a man in his mid 40s, was "too depressed to talk about accounting for 3 hours". We came in, took our usual 20 minute quiz, and then he just decided to dejectedly talk about how disappointed he was in the US for 30 minutes and how Hillary "as a woman" deserved it.

He needs to grow a set.
 

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I'll bet the FBI has a little chat with her. They don't take these things lightly.

Pretty sure

1) This is explicitly against the law. Lots of extra hedging around presidential protection and
2) The SS investigates this, not the FBI. The SS investigates somewhat aggressively.
 

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Liberals are running around saying how Muslims, gays, etc., are still "loved," etc., etc., even though the election results "threaten" them. As I recall, the last time a bunch of gays were killed in this country, it was by a Muslim. But Trump is evil for wanting to ban new Muslims from coming. Or something.

The coalition of the fringes is fraying.
 

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My Financial Accounting class last night was even better than this. My usual financial accounting class that runs from 6:30 to 9:30 on Thursday nights what cut short by over 2 hours because the professor, who is a man in his mid 40s, was "too depressed to talk about accounting for 3 hours". We came in, took our usual 20 minute quiz, and then he just decided to dejectedly talk about how disappointed he was in the US for 30 minutes and how Hillary "as a woman" deserved it.

About the only place you won't find liberals on a college campus are in your economics department.
 

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About the only place you won't find liberals on a college campus are in your economics department.

Lol i'm an Econ major actually. Yeah the Econ professors have been pretty chill about it. We ran a school wide poll a week before the election and students of Fordham's business school actually favored Trump.

Trump actually went to Fordham for 2 years before transferring to Wharton and his dad graduated from here. Apparently he tried to donate millions of dollars here in the 90s but the administration refused his gift.
 

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About the only place you won't find liberals on a college campus are in your economics department.

Don't forget J-school!

The future journalists of America are undoubtedly unbiased, as we should all well know and trust.
 

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How is enforcing the law "systematic harassment"?

If someone who looked like me was wanted by the FBI and had his mug posted all over the news - I would be pissed at that dude, not the people stopping me constantly. The sooner he was caught and dealt with the sooner I could go back to a normal life. Now if police refused to do anything about the offender that I was lumped in with - I would take exception with the authorities refusal to enforce the law and the continued ostracizing I would feel from my fellow citizens. Don't hate the player, hate the game - yo.

Or I could just be pissed at the entire world forever.
 

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Based on what I read it sounds like a smart move. If you're employees start acting like Donald you're going to have a sexual harassment lawsuit on your hands pretty quickly. If I said any of the crap he did during his campaign at work I have no doubt I would be fired.
If I saved ESPN's long-range plan on my personal hard drive and then I was hacked by NBC Sports and FS1, you can bet I'd be fired too.
 
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How is enforcing the law "systematic harassment"?

Is it inconceivable to you that a certain portion of the population that is excessively exposed to "law enforcement" could develop a reasonable assessment of their reality as having been systematically harassed?

I mean as an extreme example, when the Nazis made very discriminatory laws that affected Jews, where they not harrassed by law enforcement?

If the laws are discriminatory, much like our current drug laws that disproportionately affect a specific demographic, then it has significant bearing on the perception of those on whom the law is being enforced. It is entirely possible that a law justly written by the majority can in fact be a discriminatory law affecting a minority, thusly producing a reaction by the minority.
 

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Is it inconceivable to you that a certain portion of the population that is excessively exposed to "law enforcement" could develop a reasonable assessment of their reality as having been systematically harassed?

I mean as an extreme example, when the Nazis made very discriminatory laws that affected Jews, where they not harrassed by law enforcement?

If the laws are discriminatory, much like our current drug laws that disproportionately affect a specific demographic, then it has significant bearing on the perception of those on whom the law is being enforced. It is entirely possible that a law justly written by the majority can in fact be a discriminatory law affecting a minority, thusly producing a reaction by the minority.

If I immigrated legally - I would be pissed at those that do so illegally. Especially if I shared the same ethnic make-up which resulted in a lot of folks questioning my legality. Solve the illegal immigration policy and the "bigotry" problem goes away. Really cannot comprehend people that can't draw that very simple conclusion.
 

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Lol i'm an Econ major actually. Yeah the Econ professors have been pretty chill about it. We ran a school wide poll a week before the election and students of Fordham's business school actually favored Trump.

Trump actually went to Fordham for 2 years before transferring to Wharton and his dad graduated from here. Apparently he tried to donate millions of dollars here in the 90s but the administration refused his gift.

And you wonder why all the people who study economics are typically conservative in their economic policies...

Don't forget J-school!

The future journalists of America are undoubtedly unbiased, as we should all well know and trust.

Don't get me started on journalists. The crap you can find in a student paper is laughable...actually, kind of frightening. I've only read a few things from our student paper, but one of the articles was an Op piece where the student tried to suggest that a CDC study performed by 3 female doctors was sexist because it told women that if they were planning to have a child, they shouldn't drink alcohol, and that alcohol lead to more unwanted sex, STDs, etc.
 

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