'18 OR ATH Braden Lenzy (Notre Dame Signee)

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BREAKING: 4-star WR Braden Lenzy commits to Notre Dame


Lenzy was recruited by most of the offensive staff at Notre Dame. However, it was special teams coordinator Brian Polian that played the biggest impact on his decision.

“Honestly, coach Polian was the biggest factor,” said Lenzy, when looking at the staff. “He made me feel at home. He said something that meant a lot to me and my dad. He was talking about how Notre Dame isn’t for everyone and that it’s much easier to stay with the local schools and that it’s going to be hard saying no to schools like Oregon and Oregon State. A lot of people stay home because it’s easy, but when I was at Notre Dame, although it’s hard to leave home and be far away, it seemed so easy to fit in there. I had the same goals and aspirations as everyone there. It made the distance so much easier to overcome.”

Coach Polian can recruit the West Coast, in case you hadn't heard.
 
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This kid's speed is no joke. I can't decide what side of the ball he would be better at. I say let him decide and then develop him.
 

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This kid's speed is no joke. I can't decide what side of the ball he would be better at. I say let him decide and then develop him.

WR. We have young corners who can play but we need another Will Fuller type on offense. Lenzy fits the bill.
 
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WR. We have young corners who can play but we need another Will Fuller type on offense. Lenzy fits the bill.

He wants to play WR. They said its up to him but that things could change.
 

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WR. We have young corners who can play but we need another Will Fuller type on offense. Lenzy fits the bill.

I'm normally hesitant to compare a 16 year old with a guy who took aim at ND record books but it's apt in this case. He has effortless acceleration combined with a true second gear. If he can manage the nuance of the position the sky is the limit.
 

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This kid's speed is no joke. I can't decide what side of the ball he would be better at. I say let him decide and then develop him.

We'll see how the rest of the class falls but right now, I think he's a WR. This offense needs speed on the outside.
 

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Congrats to Braden. What a incredible class this POTENTIALLY can be. Brian Kelly must be working his tail off. This is his due or die year. I'm not sure how this recruiting season could've turned out any better to start. We are reaching 2013 class hype.
 

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Lenzy continues Irish recruiting roll - Notre Dame - Scout
7:47 PM

Recruited by some programs as a defensive back, Alexander and offensive coordinator Chip Long described to Lenzy during his Junior Day visit their vision for him as a wide receiver. Think Will Fuller.

“Just being a playmaker,” Lenzy told Irish Illustrated after the trip. “They made it clear they want me to do kickoff return and use me as a deep threat, across the field. Just being kind of an athlete, similar to what I’ve been doing already in high school just on a bigger scale with a quarterback that can throw it a lot farther.”

Lenzy's Stats

Braden Lenzy @ Tigard High School - OregonLive.com

HTML:
YR    RUSH AVE	ATT	YD	REC     YD     YPC   LONG     TDS
2016	11.8	12	142	43	840	19.5	66	5
2015				18	524	29.1	83	6
CAREER	11.8	12	142	61	1364	22.4	83	11


At 6-1, 175, 4.47, I like him at CB or WR , versatile (KR/PR?), a welcome addition to the class.

The 4.47 (electronic) speed is good but not the Fuller NFL Combine 4.32.

At this point I prefer Braden's and Gervin's 4.38 (handheld?) speed at the corners. Depends on how they with a year of HS left, and others in HS and already on the team develop.
 
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I understand why Lenzy is being compared to Fuller and why everyone wants him to be used in a similar way. But I'm hoping Lenzy can be more dangerous (if that makes any sense).

Lenzy can be more dangerous by having a better understanding of the route tree; Fuller was most dangerous on the deep ball and on screens. Other than that, Fuller was better than average but he wasn't great.

Lenzy can use his hands, not his body, to catch the ball. This was, by far, my biggest pet peeve with Fuller. This is also why I think Fuller wasn't as good with other routes besides the deep ball and screens. The other routes require the ball to be caught with your hands.

Lastly, I'd like to see Lenzy used in an "athlete" role. Sure, he is more than fast enough to be a deep threat but I hope thats not all he's used for. I'd love to see him lined up in the slot and running across the middle (good luck keeping up with him). I'd love to see him get the ball on a reverse. I don't think I'd even mind if I saw him line up in the backfield in some occasions.

Utilize his speed and athleticism. Brian Kelly is setting himself up to have ATHLETES on offense in the future. Kmet, Wright, CJ, Claypool, Stepherson, Javon, Jones, Young, Stepp, Lenzy, and the list could go on. Add Wimbush and Phil to that and theres no reason why they should be able to score 35 a game. We just need to keep it up on the o-line.
 
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Why not allow him to play both ways? Like the kid from USC. PLay him at Corner and WR.

Because one of the very few bright spots from last season was our young secondary. I loved how Julian Love and Donte Vaughn were playing well and competing. Pride struggled at times but theres no reason to believe he won't improve. We'll have Shaun Crawford back as well. Also, we'll hopefully be bringing in 3-4 cornerbacks (that includes Gervin and Allen) in the 2018 class.

Lenzy can probably play cornerback but, at the moment, having him play both ways is unnecessary. We have a lot of young, talented corners to work with. Let Lenzy focus on one side of the ball.
 

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I understand why Lenzy is being compared to Fuller and why everyone wants him to be used in a similar way. But I'm hoping Lenzy can be more dangerous (if that makes any sense).

Hmmm... Lenzy looks good to me, but Fuller certainly took an unexpected turn. Obviously we can't expect him to be better than Fuller and his TD per game.

And, in my experience, it just generally doesn't work that way. There really aren't more than a handful of guys that can do it all. Golden Tate is the only one we've had in recent memory.

Why not allow him to play both ways? Like the kid from USC. PLay him at Corner and WR.

Again, Lenzy looks good. But Adoree Jackson's junior highlights were absurd.

To me, we've gotten a significantly faster Bennett Jackson.
 
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Hmmm... Lenzy looks good to me, but Fuller certainly took an unexpected turn. Obviously we can't expect him to be better than Fuller and his TD per game.

And, in my experience, it just generally doesn't work that way. There really aren't more than a handful of guys that can do it all. Golden Tate is the only one we've had in recent memory.



Again, Lenzy looks good. But Adoree Jackson's junior highlights were absurd.

To me, we've gotten a significantly faster Bennett Jackson.

I sure hope this isn't the case.
 

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Why not allow him to play both ways? Like the kid from USC. PLay him at Corner and WR.

This absurd and it's not the first time you wanted to force fit kids into two way play. It's stupid to set an expectation level up like you do.

Lenzy has a year of HS to go. Let's see how he developes. When he arrives at ND let him get acclimated to ND academics, and EITHER the ND offense OR the ND defense. He gets 20 hours of contact time to train and he has to maintain academic eligibilty something some others haven't focused on like they should have.

He does NOT have the speed of Adoree Jackson at this point. He doesn't have Fuller's either.



16 for '16: College football’s fastest players
Chase Goodbread
College Football 24/7 writer

2. Adoree' Jackson, CB, USC
The Trojans' do-it-all athlete on the football field is also a two-time All-American in track. His track specialty is the long jump. He finished 10th in the finals for the event at the U.S. Olympic Trials this month. His accomplishments as a sprinter leave no doubt about his speed. Jackson was clocked at 10.41 seconds in the 100 meters and 21.08 in the 200 meters during the 2016 outdoor season. He also blazed a 6.75 60-meter time in the indoor season. Jackson's wheels translate to the football field in all kinds of ways, such as this punt return for a score against rival UCLA last November.
 

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you cannot compare adore jackson/will fuller combine/collegiate times etc to Branden in high school...but for comparison lets take a look at Adore as a Senior vs Branden as a Soph

Adore as a senior best time in 200meters
21.77
Braden as a SOPH best time in 200m
21.79

400 meters
adore again as a SENIOR
53.48
Braden as a SOPH
48.16

Adore didn't race in the 100m in his senior year however as a junior

100m-10.68(pr) however is other times are 11, 10.89, 11, 10.97

branden
100m-10.86 his other times are 10.93, 11.05, 10.9, 10.94

so it appears that Branden doesn't have the elite initial burst as adore(although Branden is a soph vs a senior) which would make sense due to adore's smaller stature ...but Braden is flat out track fast and will only get better

Adoree Jackson - CA Track and Field Profile

Braden Lenzy - OR Track and Field Profile
 

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you cannot compare adore jackson/will fuller combine/collegiate times etc to Branden in high school...but for comparison lets take a look at Adore as a Senior vs Branden as a Soph

Adore as a senior best time in 200meters
21.77
Braden as a SOPH best time in 200m
21.79

400 meters
adore again as a SENIOR
53.48
Braden as a SOPH
48.16

Adore didn't race in the 100m in his senior year however as a junior

100m-10.68(pr) however is other times are 11, 10.89, 11, 10.97

branden
100m-10.86 his other times are 10.93, 11.05, 10.9, 10.94

so it appears that Branden doesn't have the elite initial burst as adore(although Branden is a soph vs a senior) which would make sense due to adore's smaller stature ...but Braden is flat out track fast and will only get better

Adoree Jackson - CA Track and Field Profile

Braden Lenzy - OR Track and Field Profile

To me, the difference is the athleticism. Jackson is clearly a better athlete, at least on their junior films. But I do agree that Lenzy and Fuller are comparable.

What made Golden so deadly (when he was focused) was that, on top of his speed, his balance, functional strength, hand eye coordination, timing, and hands were all deadly. He was an athlete's athlete, as evidenced by his being a great baseball player too. He could play full speed, while talking trash, and make athletic plays. He didn't just get to the ball, he took it away from other All-Americans.

A lot of track guys don't have the overall athleticism, so they don't play comparably as fast, and just aren't as good. (compare, Dayne Crist and DeShone Kizer. Same measurables and position, different athletes)

I sure hope this isn't the case.

Bennett Jackson was a tough kid and a good player who made the NFL. If he had had a little more speed he would have been significantly better. Hoping that is where Lenzy is.
 
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