'17 IL TE Cole Kmet (Notre Dame Signee)

[FightingIrishLover7]

He has an elbow injury. He will be back on the baseball team next season according to the article.

Not if he's being selected #1 overall April 2020.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Not if he's being selected #1 overall April 2020.

What stats/testing numbers could a TE put up to deserve a #1 pick?

I'm thinking something along the lines of: 1500 yds receiving, 14+ TDs, 10+ pancake blocks and he'd have to be graded out as a 90+ blocker.

Testing would also have to be absurd: 4.55 or better 40, 25+ reps on bench, 37+ vertical, great shuttles as well.

Basically he'd have to be a perfect blend of OL/WR/TE.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

What stats/testing numbers could a TE put up to deserve a #1 pick?

I'm thinking something along the lines of: 1500 yds receiving, 14+ TDs, 10+ pancake blocks and he'd have to be graded out as a 90+ blocker.

Testing would also have to be absurd: 4.55 or better 40, 25+ reps on bench, 37+ vertical, great shuttles as well.

Basically he'd have to be a perfect blend of OL/WR/TE.

I would love that player.

Obviously, the simple truth is that TE just doesn't have as much value on every down as other positions such as EDGE, OT, or QB. These are normally your #1 overalls. So, you're spot on in the bold; you have to have a generational player who is a stud in run blocking, serving as a glorified extra OT, but can become an absolute nightmare match up against even the elite OLBs and Safeties in coverage alike. Otherwise the value will never be there at #1.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

I would love that player.

Obviously, the simple truth is that TE just doesn't have as much value on every down as other positions such as EDGE, OT, or QB. These are normally your #1 overalls. So, you're spot on in the bold; you have to have a generational player who is a stud in run blocking, serving as a glorified extra OT, but can become an absolute nightmare match up against even the elite OLBs and Safeties in coverage alike. Otherwise the value will never be there at #1.

Exactly. I guess if Cole Kmet turns out to be a combination of Lebron James/Zion Williamson and Gronk, then he might have a chance?

 

[Irish YJ]

Exactly. I guess if Cole Kmet turns out to be a combination of Lebron James/Zion Williamson and Gronk, then he might have a chance?

but but but, does he like cats?

 

[zelezo vlk]

Per ISD's interview w/ Chip Long, Kmet will be playing on Saturday

 

[IrishLax]

Per Twitter, left practice with a right shoulder injury. Could be a collar bone fracture, could be separated shoulder.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

This is a big time loss if he is out. Dude looked prime to explode this fall.

 

[Big23Head]

Per Twitter, left practice with a right shoulder injury. Could be a collar bone fracture, could be separated shoulder.

An II poster just reiterated from his earlier post that it is a broken collar bone. He's had correct and incorrect info in the past, we shall see.

 

[IrishLax]

An II poster just reiterated from his earlier post that it is a broken collar bone. We shall see.

If it's a broken collarbone, that typically fewer long term issues than a shoulder injury. It'll also be a quicker return to play where he'll likely only miss a few games. So all things considered that would not be the worst injury he could've gotten.

 

[JD Irish]

Need him against Georgia.

 

[IrishFanJMercy]

Recovery time 4-8 weeks for collarbone usually

 

[Irish2155]

I personally think this is the best team BK has ever had. The only thing to stop this train, minus maybe Clemson or 'Bama, is injury.

Hope it isn't too bad.

 

[IRISHMAN]

I hope brock wright can do more than play fullback also excited to see if tommy tremble gets more practice time.

 

[Big23Head]

If it's a broken collarbone, that typically fewer long term issues than a shoulder injury. It'll also be a quicker return to play where he'll likely only miss a few games. So all things considered that would not be the worst injury he could've gotten.

O’Malley stated it as broken collarbone pending confirmation from BK Saturday so it seems he’s heard something.

 

[greyhammer90]

If it's 4 weeks he misses Louisville.
If it's 6 weeks he misses New Mexico.
If it's 7 weeks he misses UGA.
If it's 8 weeks he misses UVA.

Let's hope it's just 4 and he gets the bye and New Mexico to knock the rust off.

 

[Irish#1]

Recovery time 4-8 weeks for collarbone usually

I would be surprised if he cleared to play before six weeks, but it depends on the severity of the fracture/break. I hope I'm surprised.

Update
From our friend Google

The time for a broken collarbone to fully heal depends on the severity of the injury. In children, complete healing may take as little as three to six weeks. In adults, six to 16 weeks or more are often necessary for a collarbone to heal solidly.Jun 29, 2012

 

[IrishFanJMercy]

The good news is we will be fine without him until Georgia.

 

[ResLife Hero]

The good news is we will be fine without him until Georgia.

Some of you must have been lucky enough to miss or forget USF. I'm not sure you can line up a week 1 opponent I'll ever be confident in after that.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Cole is also the one that recovered from a high ankle sprain in about 1.5 weeks, right?

Maybe he has some miracle recovery body?

 

[Crazy Balki]

Some of you must have been lucky enough to miss or forget USF. I'm not sure you can line up a week 1 opponent I'll ever be confident in after that.

This season is DOA if we can't handle Louisville sans Kmet.

 

[Irish#1]

Some of you must have been lucky enough to miss or forget USF. I'm not sure you can line up a week 1 opponent I'll ever be confident in after that.

Different talent level on this team.

 

[Irish2155]

The good news is we will be fine without him until Georgia.

I think we'll be fine against GA regardless.

 

[dublinirish]

Cole is also the one that recovered from a high ankle sprain in about 1.5 weeks, right?

Maybe he has some miracle recovery body?

he played but was never himself until clemson game

 

[ulukinatme]

Some of you must have been lucky enough to miss or forget USF. I'm not sure you can line up a week 1 opponent I'll ever be confident in after that.

I was there...I was there when they cleared the stadium for lightning...twice! I was there when Jonas Gray fumbled at the goal line. I was there when they trotted Crist back out there when we had a proven winner in Tommy on the bench. I was there when Tommy almost brought the team back. I was there when Floyd had a chance to get the onside kick and the ball was snatched from him. I was there...

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

I think we'll be fine against GA regardless.

Does ND have a front 7 ready for that Georgia O line that only you know about?

 

[Irish2155]

Does ND have a front 7 ready for that Georgia O line that only you know about?

Georgia lost 3 games last year. Let's not forget.

 

[greyhammer90]

Georgia lost 3 games last year. Let's not forget.

This. It won't be easy, but let's not forget that they got smoked by LSU last year in a very hyped game. They will be tough. They might even beat us badly if we have an off night a la Miami. But they're much more mortal than everyone is acting like.

 

[General Colon Bowel]

Georgia lost 3 games last year. Let's not forget.

To teams that finished the season 2, 6, and 9 in the final poll while also beating two top 12 teams. They're a very strong team.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Georgia lost 3 games last year. Let's not forget.

Last year is gone. ND might lose 3 this year. They have a stud QB, stud RB, mammoth OL going up against a smaller and inexperienced ND front 7. In Athens at night.

They're not perfect, but there are several reasons why Vegas has ND as a big underdog here.