I'm not actually sure what you're saying couldn't be more different?
I didn't say anything about him being an ND type kid I commented on not getting vested for now. Which I'm not sure how you could even disagree with considering he's never been to campus but has set 2 dates. Lastly, I commented on his support group. Which at this time is either all UM or all OK. That doesn't bode well for ND.
Sorry, I thought I bolded it.
"Insanely uphill battle with folks around him."
That isn't the case at all. Kelly doesn't have the connections at Oklahoma as some of the other kids that went there from the Fresno area. Michigan, he did take an unofficial to, but they were recruiting him much harder than Notre Dame at the time. I can tell you those around are extremely pro-Notre Dame and is a large reason he has had the fascination with Notre Dame for quite sometime.
It's just one of those things where when he did take the Michigan visit, there just simply wasn't much contact with Notre Dame in March, as the coaching change was just put into place and recruiting was on the backburner. Did that hurt Notre Dame? We will see, but it was definitely a missed opportunity to get on him on campus.
Also, there are many things that go into visits and the kid/kids family isn't always the one to drop the ball or blame.
Sorry, I thought I bolded it.
"Insanely uphill battle with folks around him."
That isn't the case at all. Kelly doesn't have the connections at Oklahoma as some of the other kids that went there from the Fresno area. Michigan, he did take an unofficial to, but they were recruiting him much harder than Notre Dame at the time. I can tell you those around are extremely pro-Notre Dame and is a large reason he has had the fascination with Notre Dame for quite sometime.
It's just one of those things where when he did take the Michigan visit, there just simply wasn't much contact with Notre Dame in March, as the coaching change was just put into place and recruiting was on the backburner. Did that hurt Notre Dame? We will see, but it was definitely a missed opportunity to get on him on campus.
Also, there are many things that go into visits and the kid/kids family isn't always the one to drop the ball or blame.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Elite CA LB Caleb Kelly (<a href="https://twitter.com/calebkkelly">@calebkkelly</a>) announced official visits, including one to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash">#NotreDame</a> on Dec. 11th</p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/636671744468754432">August 26, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Will this be for the football banquet? If so, do you guys feel that hurts or helps are situation? I've never understood the draw of the banquet when a recruit could come to a game and see the gameday atmosphere, what type of crowd support and fans we have, how coaches react in game situations, etc. The banquet would not be a big draw for me so curious to get others views.
IMO, this hurts with Kelly. This being the last possible visit, 1) He could commit before then and we'll never have had a chance. 2) If he has to cancel (he's already cancelled like 4 ND trips), there won't be another chance to visit, so it's an all or nothing deal. 3) It'll be cold AF. Would much rather him visit for USC/Texas. Bird in the hand.
Will this be for the football banquet? If so, do you guys feel that hurts or helps are situation? I've never understood the draw of the banquet when a recruit could come to a game and see the gameday atmosphere, what type of crowd support and fans we have, how coaches react in game situations, etc. The banquet would not be a big draw for me so curious to get others views.
If we picked him up it would go a long way into fixing my Fresno butthurtness.
We seem to have a lot of success during the Banquet. Won't be as many recruits so more one on one time. Plus get all the commits around him
I think it's good thing. Probably his last visit. We have gotten a lot of guys who visited at the banquet in the past.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">5 officials., Blessed for these opportunities�� s/o <a href="https://twitter.com/Claywill3_">@Claywill3_</a> for pic edits and <a href="https://twitter.com/valkel19">@valkel19</a> for setting up visits! <a href="http://t.co/rutHtuzsWV">pic.twitter.com/rutHtuzsWV</a></p>— KANAI™ (@calebkkelly) <a href="https://twitter.com/calebkkelly/status/636668503890636801">August 26, 2015</a></blockquote>
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the slate of games he will see is quite underwhelming - TCU @ Oklahoma will probably be the most electric (provided Oklahoma does not shit the bed before that)
wiltfong said this isn't like the long shot in getting iman but we do have a lot of ground to make up...says he is an ND kid, and IF we were able to get fuller they are friends and would like to play on same team IF possible...
The general feeling with five-star CA OLB Caleb Kelly is Michigan's visit went well but might not be enough to overcome Oklahoma's lead ($). Unless Kelly surprisingly declares Michigan his leader this week, that's to be expected—he still has four more official visits to go, including one to Norman.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">5 officials., Blessed for these opportunities s/o <a href="https://twitter.com/Claywill3_">@Claywill3_</a> for pic edits and <a href="https://twitter.com/valkel19">@valkel19</a> for setting up visits! <a href="http://t.co/rutHtuzsWV">pic.twitter.com/rutHtuzsWV</a></p>— KANAI™ (@calebkkelly) <a href="https://twitter.com/calebkkelly/status/636668503890636801">August 26, 2015</a></blockquote>
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the slate of games he will see is quite underwhelming - TCU @ Oklahoma will probably be the most electric (provided Oklahoma does not shit the bed before that)
Really wish he was coming for a gameday atmosphere, like when we host USC.
I just can't imagine overtaking Oklahoma without showing him what it's like for the team on gameday.
Can I admit something, maybe I'm not the only one,... when I open a recruiting thread and it's a defender and the stars are all fours and fives, I tend to immediately think, "no shot"...
Can I admit something, maybe I'm not the only one,... when I open a recruiting thread and it's a defender and the stars are all fours and fives, I tend to immediately think, "no shot"...