'15 NJ QB Brandon Wimbush (Notre Dame Signed NLI)

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There were two throws where I thought wtf. Both were under pressure just blind Chuck pop ups that could/prolly should have been INT.

Michigan had him running for his life quite a bit in second half. But he was legit last night and was getting some good praise by guys on college football final.
 

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I think Wimbush and the OL are going to only get better as the season goes on. Thought Long should have called more crossers in the 2nd half to help him again overall he stood calm in the pocket much more last night.
 

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Feel for the kid having such a good record and getting bench. Big test of his maturity here is how he carries himself for the season. I still think he can be a big weapon for this team, and I would hope that he would realize his chances at being an NFL qb are pretty slim at this point.
 

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Probably thinking about what time he wants to go to the pregame before going to Finny's
 

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Probably thinking about what time he wants to go to the pregame before going to Finny's

Lots of players do this crap and I don't know why. You have a chance to contribute something special. Why mess up your focus and fitness work by drinking, especially during the season? One thing for which I'll give credit to Bama is that their players have an extraordinary amount of focus, regardless of depth chart. I read about their players-only meeting before the NC in 2012-----that's a culture of professionalism. I still think they pay players but I can't fault the mental game.
 
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Lots of players do this crap and I don't know why. You have a chance to contribute something special. Why mess up your focus and fitness work by drinking, especially during the season? One thing for which I'll give credit to Bama is that their players have an extraordinary amount of focus, regardless of depth chart. I read about their players-only meeting before the NC in 2012-----that's a cultural of professionalism. I still think they pay players but I can't fault the mental game.

College kids are gonna college. Don't let the media and cameras fool you. Most of the kids on every team go out.

Brandon is a good kid and I highly doubt he gets into stupid things. I remember seeing quite a few players out and about when I was in college (still do sometimes, actually).
 

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I am quite sure we will need Wimbush to help us win football games this season. Hopefully he believes the same.
 

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I think Wimbush and the OL are going to only get better as the season goes on. Thought Long should have called more crossers in the 2nd half to help him again overall he stood calm in the pocket much more last night.

Hopefully his QB Coach can give him some insight on how to handle this from an in-game perspective - not the arrest part in the 2012 off season. Rees was something like 13-4 as a starter (end of 2010 and 2011 excl. USF) and was to be replaced by Golson for 2012.
 
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I wouldn’t expect him to be thinking anything less than how to earn the starting position again. That’s what competitors do and that mentality should keep him sharp and ready to go.
 

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I wouldn’t expect him to be thinking anything less than how to earn the starting position again. That’s what competitors do and that mentality should keep him sharp and ready to go.

I sure hope so. And after today, I hope BK is thinking very hard about how to start getting him the ball while Book is the starter. I don't care how. Use him as a RB. Use him as a WR. Get him doing something where he can contribute to the team, and has the opportunity to ball out. If he's just riding the bench, or sees only a little "change of pace" action, I think we all know hot that ends.
 

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Gotta wonder what the kid is thinking right now

Hopefully, Wimbush is thinking about the next time he is called on to run the offense. He needs to be ready to succeed when called upon.

If Book continues to be successful, Wimbush will need to think long-term just like Arnez Battle and Carlyle Holiday and be willing to play wherever he can help the team the most. However, I've got a feeling we will need him to play quarterback again before his days at ND are over, possibly as early as next week.

Book's performance today was spectacular, but he has yet to prove he can sustain that level of play over a full season.
 

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Book's performance today was spectacular, but he has yet to prove he can sustain that level of play over a full season.

Exactly. Better defenses than Wake Forest's will adjust, blitz, force Book to throw downfield, do things that make him uncomfortable. When that happens, Wimbush's experience, and legs, will be pretty valuable.
 

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He's watching Season 2 of Last Chance U and wondering if he could put up with Buddy for a year.

Nah, he aint going that path. He'll graduate in the spring, and head to another P5 if BK can't figure out how to get him on the field. Lot's of teams would love to have him. He's be a monster at GT.
 

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Nah, he aint going that path. He'll graduate in the spring, and head to another P5 if BK can't figure out how to get him on the field. Lot's of teams would love to have him. He's be a monster at GT.

He can't run the option...that'd require him to be decisive.
 

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He can't run the option...that'd require him to be decisive.

I think he could be successful in a run option. And toss an occasional long 50/50 ball. He has two close options in front of him, or he keeps it... I think he'd light it up.

I'd much rather see BK to make a call immediately to convert him to a RB/Slot guy.
 

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I feel bad for him, but he was struggling. Being replaced is just more public for a QB than other positions. Could he have made all the same throws that Book made today? Best guy has to be on the field, and right now, it is obviously Book.
 

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I think he could be successful in a run option. And toss an occasional long 50/50 ball. He has two close options in front of him, or he keeps it... I think he'd light it up.



I'd much rather see BK to make a call immediately to convert him to a RB/Slot guy.



I hear what you are saying. But that would leave only Book and Phil J as the only scholarship QB’s on the roster playing QB. Meaning they would be the only two taking QB reps during practice. And if Book goes down for extended period of time that is no bueno.


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I hear what you are saying. But that would leave only Book and Phil J as the only scholarship QB’s on the roster playing QB. Meaning they would be the only two taking QB reps during practice. And if Book goes down for extended period of time that is no bueno.


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I think it's the only way to keep him. He can always switch back if Book goes down. Rusty and without reps, but doable, and IMO the best thing for the team. If not, he's going to tune out, and start making plans for somewhere else. Maybe I'm wrong, and he'll be OK hanging around, but I just can't see it.
 

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I imagine BW fitting in our offense sort of like how Jalen Samuels was used by NCST the last couple of years. Put him in the slot, behind Ian Book, or as a flanker, and twice a game have him throw a ball on a trick play
 

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I imagine BW fitting in our offense sort of like how Jalen Samuels was used by NCST the last couple of years. Put him in the slot, behind Ian Book, or as a flanker, and twice a game have him throw a ball on a trick play

Wouldn't be surprised if Davis would be used in a similar manner this year.
 

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Not trying to be that guy, but...

With the current RB depth situation, any chance they experiment with BW there? Not only is there a depth need, but let's be honest - we are better off with an athlete like BW on the field, just not at QB. Could be a chance to kill two birds with one stone ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Not trying to be that guy, but...

With the current RB depth situation, any chance they experiment with BW there? Not only is there a depth need, but let's be honest - we are better off with an athlete like BW on the field, just not at QB. Could be a chance to kill two birds with one stone ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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agree. i'll be that guy with you. long shot, but would love to see him get touches at RB or slot, or some type of trickeration. If I was him, I'd be selling it BK. If I'm BK, I'd be open to it. Would probably prefer him catching the ball though, as I'd be more afraid of him getting injured running.
 

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agree. i'll be that guy with you. long shot, but would love to see him get touches at RB or slot, or some type of trickeration. If I was him, I'd be selling it BK. If I'm BK, I'd be open to it. Would probably prefer him catching the ball though, as I'd be more afraid of him getting injured running.

No. He's our second string quarterback and needs all the reps he can get. You don't wager the season on a second or third string RB at the expense of the QB position. PJ looks and sounds to be nowhere near ready.
 

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Yes let's burn our backup QB during the season at a position he hasn't played before. Nothing can go wrong there.
 

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No. He's our second string quarterback and needs all the reps he can get. You don't wager the season on a second or third string RB at the expense of the QB position. PJ looks and sounds to be nowhere near ready.

Yes let's burn our backup QB during the season at a position he hasn't played before. Nothing can go wrong there.

Here's my thoughts... we can agree to disagree
-Books performance last night made it clear, that he's the guy going forward. BK even was asked to clarify last night via post game presser, which he did. The "or" will be removed going forward.
-The fact there were zero BW QB packages last night surprised me. BK is full tilt a Book guy now.
-BW is a baller at heart, and he want's the be "the guy". I'd be ultra shocked if he didn't transfer next year. I'd bet had he not RS'd his soph year, he'd already be gone, or at least have told BK that he's not playing more than one more game (he's played 3)
-If he has made the decision (I'd bet money he and BK are going to talk this week) to leave, his best shot at success would be to grad transfer at the end of the semester (anyone know if he's on track to graduate a semester early?) so he can participate in spring ball.
-Next year, it will be a Book/PJ battle for the reigns.
-Relative to back up QB, It's not like freshman aren't starting or playing substantial minutes in major programs. If PJ is capable (not saying it's ideal), then risk is diminished.
-Book is going to get the majority of practice snaps. If you work him in at slot while Book is getting QB1 snaps, you are not taking away from BW getting QB2 snaps. BW already knows the WR playbook obviously, so it's not like he has to learn basics. If he can catch and run a decent route, it's not a monumental effort.

Lastly, the question is what is best for BW. Does he want to play on Sundays? I'd say yes, all guys do. How much? If it's a lot, and he's somewhat self aware, he's knows it's not going to be as a QB. Best shot would be as slot type guy. All the talk of him being too slow is just silly based on his camp stats. Has he lost a step, maybe, but he doesn't have to be a speed demon. We have plenty of not so fast WRs and TEs balling out. And... and it's a big IF... if things worked out, maybe he stays for another year, and sets himself up for some type of post college football career, while not having to learn a whole new system.

I agree though, it's risky, and not ideal,,,, , but the kid isn't going to be happy sitting and waiting on a Book injury.
 
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