'14 OH QB DeShone Kizer (Notre Dame Signee)

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Don't get me wrong, what I want as an Irish fan since '73 is two QB's of MZ and BW's on my roster but the reality of the Grad Transfer in today's game is the new normal.

Success in life is about managing your variables and respecting the odds. If he does GT, the tough guys will call him a quitter just like they did Golson but it's playing by the rules and in his best interest (once again, IMO) Once again, I personally hope he stays and everyone co-exists in harmony. I just don't see how each of these fine young men maximize their personal situation by anything but DK entering the draft, MZ GTing and BW taking over.

1. Golson is a quitter.
2. I don't think Malik Zaire is. Even if he chooses to exercise his graduate transfer option, I don't think he is a quitter.
 

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1. Golson is a quitter.
2. I don't think Malik Zaire is. Even if he chooses to exercise his graduate transfer option, I don't think he is a quitter.

Well did you ever send him a thank you?

I wish he wasn't a procrastinator and would've quit after turnover #1 in Tempe.
 

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Can't really blame the kid either to go somewhere and be the guy. I don't see Kelly keeping Wimbush out of the QB competition next year. I'd almost prefer that anyways, because 2018 could be brutal, returning talent wise. An experienced Wimbush could be the difference between 8-4 and 10-2. But I'm getting ahead of myself.

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I'm not so sure I agree with the lack of returning talent in 2018. At that point, all of this young talent on D with be Juniors. Studstill, Vaughn, Elliot, Love, D. Hayes, Okwara, Kareem. Plus Coney and Bilal will have been in the program for 4 years. The offense has a lot of playmakers on it with a lot of eligibility. I think the future looks bright.
 

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I'm not so sure I agree with the lack of returning talent in 2018. At that point, all of this young talent on D with be Juniors. Studstill, Vaughn, Elliot, Love, D. Hayes, Okwara, Kareem. Plus Coney and Bilal will have been in the program for 4 years. The offense has a lot of playmakers on it with a lot of eligibility. I think the future looks bright.

Agreed. If they can pull just one of the top CB's like Wade or Graham this cycle along with another solid 4 star+ prospect to pair with Robertson I think they are fine. The cream will rise to the top. Crawford, Studstill, Elliot, Morgan Love, Vaughn, Pride, Adebo, plus any top shelf '17 talent will be miles ahead of where they are now. DL and LB already have high end talent on the way to go with the guys that will still be here.
 

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Anyone else disappointed Kizer didn't have a 300 yard, 4 TD type of passing day vs Nevada? Would like to see some stat padding in these contests to help him establish as a de facto top 5 Heisman candidate.

Hopefully he is saving that for MSU - big highlight reel against those fools please!
 
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This kid is just special. Where did his accuracy come from? IIRC, that was his knock coming out of HS. He's just turning into a stud.
 

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Anyone else disappointed Kizer didn't have a 300 yard, 4 TD type of passing day vs Nevada? Would like to see some stat padding in these contests to help him establish as a de facto top 5 Heisman candidate.

Hopefully he is saving that for MSU - big highlight reel against those fools please!

Yea, I found myself split on this Saturday. I like the idea of getting Malik reps and letting some backups get a lot of run time. It's good motivation for those players. However, it certainly doesn't help his chances. Like you said, having some huge performances on what will be big stages going forward (MSU, Stanford, USC) could outweigh his stats from Saturday but again, I see where you are coming from.
 

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Anyone else disappointed Kizer didn't have a 300 yard, 4 TD type of passing day vs Nevada? Would like to see some stat padding in these contests to help him establish as a de facto top 5 Heisman candidate.

Hopefully he is saving that for MSU - big highlight reel against those fools please!

Yes. These are the kinds of games you need to pad those stats. 156 and 2 TD's against Nevada isn't impressive in that regard.

We got the win, but it's nice to see someone get on a list and light it up once in a while.
 
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QB recruiting is in great shape going forward, so I'm not personally concerned with how the QB position is impressing. Count me on the wagon that prefers low stats (as long as he's playing great) + keeping Malik happy + keeping Kizer healthy.

I'd rather Kizer come back than win a heisman. I know one doesn't necessarily negate the chance of the other, but I think it helps.
 

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Anyone else disappointed Kizer didn't have a 300 yard, 4 TD type of passing day vs Nevada? Would like to see some stat padding in these contests to help him establish as a de facto top 5 Heisman candidate.

Hopefully he is saving that for MSU - big highlight reel against those fools please!

No, because the Heisman is a bullshit award every other year. The writers are going to cast votes/push for whoever is going to make the most headlines, good or bad.

We need as many snaps for backups as we can get, who gives a shit about individual awards. This is especially true given our penchant for injuries, we need backups to get as many game reps as possible.

Now....if Kizer can do 300 yards and the backups still get reps, I'm all for it.
 
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I thought Kizer's interview was extraordinary. He was really upset about his pick. Not the pick itself, or that he was picked. But that he didn't 'trust Stepherson!' He said that was on him, and that it would 'eat him up a little bit.'

Expect the next level in DK's development in time for MSU.

And I believe Stepherson is about to take off, in more ways than one. With every week this receiving corps seems to become much more dynamic. I want to see Stepherson come on, and Boykin be worked in, especially in the red zone. With CJ, EQ, and THJr returning?

If DK keeps on track with the growth of his receivers, this could bode well against MSU.

And as far as the Heisman, fuck statistics! If they can even stretch to give it to Kizer they will. He is just a natural born hero! Everyone loves DK. Except Buckeye fans. Eat snot Urbie!
 

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No, because the Heisman is a bullshit award every other year. The writers are going to cast votes/push for whoever is going to make the most headlines, good or bad.

We need as many snaps for backups as we can get, who gives a shit about individual awards. This is especially true given our penchant for injuries, we need backups to get as many game reps as possible.

Now....if Kizer can do 300 yards and the backups still get reps, I'm all for it.

I don't give a shit about the Heisman trophy anymore. Kizer will not win it. Just play well, win some ballgames, and I'm happy.
 

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I thought Kizer's interview was extraordinary. He was really upset about his pick. Not the pick itself, or that he was picked. But that he didn't 'trust Stepherson!' He said that was on him, and that it would 'eat him up a little bit.'

Expect the next level in DK's development in time for MSU.

And I believe Stepherson is about to take off, in more ways than one. With every week this receiving corps seems to become much more dynamic. I want to see Stepherson come on, and Boykin be worked in, especially in the red zone. With CJ, EQ, and THJr returning?

If DK keeps on track with the growth of his receivers, this could bode well against MSU.

And as far as the Heisman, fuck statistics! If they can even stretch to give it to Kizer they will. He is just a natural born hero! Everyone loves DK. Except Buckeye fans. Eat snot Urbie!

Didn't see the interview but I like the sounds of that! Taking ownership and telling the frosh he's got game in the same breath.

As for Heisman - besides the bet I placed (admittedly poor bet but homer is me) - recruiting with a Heisman winner fresh under your belt counts for something. The award is a complete popularity contest. Light it up at ND and you should be a frontrunner.
 

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take it he ditched his girl that was having all the procedures? or did she pass away?
 

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take it he ditched his girl that was having all the procedures? or did she pass away?

Think they broke up last year. Feel like it was mentioned on the Showtime show but I could be wrong.

Yes - he was asked about it and said they are still very close friends but no longer dating. Also said she was doing well physically.
 

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He wants to get out of the friend zone? PIIHB

Feel like If you are a QB1 potential first round draft pick and her ex is a Canadian who went to Scum.. it shouldn't be that hard to get out of the friend zone and slide up in those Dms
 

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Without explosive threats, Notre Dame goes efficient behind DeShone Kizer | CSN Chicago

WITHOUT EXPLOSIVE THREATS, NOTRE DAME GOES EFFICIENT BEHIND DESHONE KIZER
By JJ STANKEVITZ September 12, 2016 3:10 PM

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Kizer completed 15 of 18 passes against Nevada on Saturday, and while he only threw for 156 yards, he accounted for three touchdowns in a brisk 39-10 win. More important than his yardage total was Notre Dame’s offense converting four of its five red zone opportunities into touchdowns with Kizer in the game, with the other stalling into a chip-shot field goal.

Through two games, the Kizer-led Irish offense has seven touchdowns on 10 red zone possessions with two field goals. The only miss came after Texas safety DeShon Elliott’s controversial hit on Torii Hunter Jr. in the end zone in Week 1, after which Justin Yoon’s field goal was blocked.

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I thought Kizer's interview was extraordinary. He was really upset about his pick. Not the pick itself, or that he was picked. But that he didn't 'trust Stepherson!' He said that was on him, and that it would 'eat him up a little bit.'

Expect the next level in DK's development in time for MSU.

And I believe Stepherson is about to take off, in more ways than one. With every week this receiving corps seems to become much more dynamic. I want to see Stepherson come on, and Boykin be worked in, especially in the red zone. With CJ, EQ, and THJr returning?

If DK keeps on track with the growth of his receivers, this could bode well against MSU.

And as far as the Heisman, fuck statistics! If they can even stretch to give it to Kizer they will. He is just a natural born hero! Everyone loves DK. Except Buckeye fans. Eat snot Urbie!

The problem with Stepherson is he is behind tori. And we don't know how long he will be available with the arrest and pending university sanctions.
 

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The problem with Stepherson is he is behind tori. And we don't know how long he will be available with the arrest and pending university sanctions.

I really, really don't think that's going to be anything that affects game time.
 

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The problem with Stepherson is he is behind tori. And we don't know how long he will be available with the arrest and pending university sanctions.

Good grief Debbie Downer.

Had there been a university sanction I feel that would have already been addressed IMO.
 

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"WITHOUT EXPLOSIVE THREATS, NOTRE DAME GOES EFFICIENT BEHIND DESHONE KIZER"

"WITHOUT EXPLOSIVE THREATS, NOTRE DAME GOES EFFICIENT BEHIND DESHONE KIZER"

Without explosive threats, Notre Dame goes efficient behind DeShone Kizer | CSN Chicago

WITHOUT EXPLOSIVE THREATS, NOTRE DAME GOES EFFICIENT BEHIND DESHONE KIZER
By JJ STANKEVITZ September 12, 2016 3:10 PM

...might also have something to do with him only playing 2.5 quarters...and not tipping their hand before the MSU game.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On passes of 20 yards or less, DeShone Kizer has more TDs (6) than incompletions (4). He’s 28-of-32 for 327 yards, 6TDs, 0INTs in that range</p>— Irish Illustrated (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/776061787489832960">September 14, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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Good grief Debbie Downer.

Had there been a university sanction I feel that would have already been addressed IMO.

Do you remember the 5 that were suspended 2 years ago? There was no word on their sanctions forever. I assume the university is likely waiting until the legal issues progress a little further. Charges like this get knocked down to misdemeanors due to amount and other circumstances. Happens all the time. The cops intiailly throw the book at them and see what sticks through the court process. By all means I hope it does get pushed by the wayside and he becomes a threat.
 
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