For a team/coach that started his era by seemingly crushing the draft, they've certainly had some head scratchers lately.
'14 MI DE Malik McDowell (Momma Has To Put Up With MSU)
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For a team/coach that started his era by seemingly crushing the draft, they've certainly had some head scratchers lately.
TomHaverford
Banned
can't blame them for drafting Malik in the 2nd. I don't think that one was a head scratcher. Kid had top 10 NFL draft talent. He just happens to also be an idiot of epic proportions. It was worth the risk for a 2nd round pick imo. His talent was worth it.
Veritate Duce Progredi
A man gotta have a code
I'm guessing plenty of people can blame them for drafting Malik. If a guy has all world talent but no self-control, he's not going to add to your roster. This is hindsight but I'm sure there are plenty of people who are pissed off about this.
They could've selected:
4(36) Cardinals (From Bears) Baker, Budda S 5'10" 195 Washington 5.9
5(37) Bills (From Rams) Jones, Zay WR 6'2" 201 East Carolina 5.7
6(38) Chargers Lamp, Forrest OG 6'4" 309 Western Kentucky 6.2
7(39) Jets Maye, Marcus S 6'0" 210 Florida 5.8
8(40) Panthers Samuel, Curtis WR 5'11" 196 Ohio St. 5.8
9(41) Vikings (From Bengals) Cook, Dalvin RB 5'10" 210 Florida St. 6.2
10(42) Saints Williams, Marcus S 6'1" 202 Utah 5.8
11(43) Eagles Jones, Sidney CB 6'0" 186 Washington 5.8
12(44) Rams (From Bills) Everett, Gerald TE 6'3" 239 South Alabama 5.9
13(45) Bears (From Cardinals) Shaheen, Adam TE 6'6" 278 Ashland 5.8
14(46) Colts Wilson, Quincy CB 6'1" 211 Florida 5.7
15(47) Ravens Bowser, Tyus OLB 6'3" 247 Houston 5.8
16(48) Bengals (From Vikings) Mixon, Joe RB 6'1" 226 Oklahoma 6.0
17(49) Redskins Anderson, Ryan OLB 6'2" 253 Alabama 5.8
18(50) Buccaneers Evans, Justin S 6'0" 199 Texas A&M 5.8
19(51) Broncos Walker, DeMarcus DE 6'4" 280 Florida St. 5.6
20(52) Browns (From Titans) Kizer, DeShone QB 6'4" 233 Notre Dame 5.7
21(53) Lions Tabor, Teez CB 6'0" 199 Florida 5.7
22(54) Dolphins McMillan, Raekwon LB 6'2" 240 Ohio St. 5.5
23(55) Giants Tomlinson, Dalvin DT 6'3" 310 Alabama 5.6
24(56) Raiders Melifonwu, Obi S 6'4" 224 Connecticut 5.7
25(57) Texans Cunningham, Zach LB 6'3" 234 Vanderbilt 5.9
26(58) Seahawks Pocic, Ethan C 6'6" 310 LSU 5.7
27(59) Chiefs Kpassagnon, Tanoh DE 6'7" 289 Villanova 5.6
28(60) Cowboys Awuzie, Chidobe CB 6'0" 202 Colorado 5.8
29(61) Packers Jones, Josh S 6'1" 220 N.C. State 5.8
30(62) Steelers Smith-Schuster, JuJu WR 6'1" 215 USC 5.8
31(63) Bills (From Falcons) Dawkins, Dion OG 6'4" 314 Temple 5.8
32(64) Panthers (From Patriots) Moton, Taylor OG 6'5" 319 Western Michigan 5.6
dublinirish
Everestt Gholstonson
https://www.tmz.com/2019/07/09/malik-mcdowell-fights-cop-after-being-tased-insane-video/
I NEED A SUPERVISOR
I NEED A SUPERVISOR
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irishtrooper
Well-known member
See, you all have this guy wrong...... The taser was named “Supervisor”. He was simply making numerous requests for said taser and became enraged once it was deployed erroneously. Give the guy a break, he obviously deserves a second chance (since he’s never made any previous mistakes).
Me2SouthBend
Well-known member
What an asshole.
OhioIrish31
New member
That was simply CRAZY!
calvegas04
Well-known member
So where is everyone claiming racism? I know there are people saying the cop was wrong.
Andy in Sactown
Can't wait 'til gameday.
Wow. All that taser did was start an Oklahoma drill.
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Some Irish Bloke
Five foot nothin', a hundred and nothin'
Yep..basically looked like it tickled him.
I think the word "supervisor" will be stuck in my head all day
matman4593
Active member
they really need stronger tasers. dear lord.
Seriously though... shoutout to Malik for not being more violent? Kind of kidding?
When the taser didn't work, then he got up all pissed off...
YOU WOULDN'T LIKE ME WHEN I'M ANGRY!*
I thought for sure it was gonna get much worse for the cop.
Also shoutout to the cops for handling their business without totally freaking out or melting down.
*I NEED TO SPEAK TO A SUPERVISOR WHEN I'M ANGRY
When the taser didn't work, then he got up all pissed off...
YOU WOULDN'T LIKE ME WHEN I'M ANGRY!*
I thought for sure it was gonna get much worse for the cop.
Also shoutout to the cops for handling their business without totally freaking out or melting down.
*I NEED TO SPEAK TO A SUPERVISOR WHEN I'M ANGRY
ulukinatme
Carr for QB 2026!
3rd chance maybe?
NFL Player Malik McDowell Arrested After Stolen Truck Found On His Property: Report
https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/nfl-pl...-found-on-his-property-report-news.85180.html
This guy is all kinds of stupid.
edgesofsanity
Active member
bigedefense
New member
Think the reason the taser was ineffective was because he had a thick hoodie on. The prongs probably didn’t make it to his skin. Pretty sure they didn’t because they have barns on them and he wouldn’t have been able to reach and just tug them off had they went into his skin.
***Disclaimer- I say all that based solely off of my extensive knowledge gained from Live PD.
ACamp1900
Counting my ‘bet against ND’ winnings
I've seen quite a few videos where tasers didn't work...
dublinirish
Everestt Gholstonson
the cop was giving him the old "if you i have to ask you 13 or 14 more times I'm gonna" routine
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Irishcop
Well-known member
The officer was to close when he deployed his taser. The spread pattern was to close.
Seriously! He bought what would seem to be a brand new car "on the street" from some "random guy" for 5k. Yea, that seems like it's on the up and up. What a moron.
The old . . . No comment comment routine. Well played, good execution.
irishtrooper
Well-known member
I was joking.... Apologies if I didn’t make that clear.
The taser likely didn’t have the desired effect because-
-The leads(barbs) were too close. This would significantly reduce the “arc” that is necessary for the full effectiveness of the taser. This generally happens when the taser is deployed from close proximity. I’m not sure that’s the case here.
OR
-Only one lead actually landed. One lead landing does nothing (other than a possible minor injury from the barb). Both leads need to land to create the arc
OR
-The thick clothing prevented actual contact to the body. This would be the cause usually when the target wears thick jackets or several layers
I can say that the clothes need to be pretty thick for the barbs not to penetrate. Typically one of the barbs not landing usually causes the ineffectiveness. Generally there is a second charged cartridge carried for a quick retreat/redeployment. A last option (before transitioning to hands on or other less-lethal choice) would be a “drive stun”. This is when there’s no cartridge and the leads from the taser are pressed against the target. This is not recommended and is not nearly as effective.
All that being said, there are a lot of police that would have handled that waaaay more violently (firearm) based on the size/strength advantage. Not that it was perfect, but I give that officer a lot of credit for everyone walking away with their life. I don’t know why he didn’t use his gun, but I agree with a previous post saying that due to the immense (generally uninformed and unfair-NOT always, but generally) scrutiny, officers are afraid to go to the firearm. Intelligent people can argue both sides of the issue with regard to use of force. I think this subject is very lucky that he wasn’t shot, especially after grabbing the firearm of the female officer.
Veritate Duce Progredi
A man gotta have a code
I'll give Malik the smallest bit of credit. He was unruly, didn't comply and instigated the entire thing but if he wanted to put that officer down, he could have. Easily.
He actually held back multiple times. And the "reach" for her gun appeared to be him just reaching. It looked like he was just trying to grab anything. It looks like he let off when he realized he touched her gun.
This was a guy who didn't want to comply but who also didn't want to hurt anyone.
Kudos to the officer for trying as hard as he could to avoid the conflict. He gave Malik 37 attempts to listen. You could tell the last thing the officer wanted, was to end up on the news.
He actually held back multiple times. And the "reach" for her gun appeared to be him just reaching. It looked like he was just trying to grab anything. It looks like he let off when he realized he touched her gun.
This was a guy who didn't want to comply but who also didn't want to hurt anyone.
Kudos to the officer for trying as hard as he could to avoid the conflict. He gave Malik 37 attempts to listen. You could tell the last thing the officer wanted, was to end up on the news.
Irishcop
Well-known member
I agree. My teammates and I watched this video and pretty much came to the same conclusion about Malik's' actions. Actively resisting yes, fighting no. Malik could have crushed that officer if he had wanted to, which I my opinion would have more that likely led to a deadly force situation.