'14 AL RB Bo Scarbrough (Alabama Verbal)

[Buster Bluth]

Oh it's not the premium seats that are the issue, I don't think you can price gouge too much on those no matter how desirable your ticket is, corporations and such don't care. It's maintaining the scarcity of the normal ticket, and even adding a top ring has a trickle-down effect, loosening up the nicer seats on stubhub and similar resale vendors. Why do you think Nebraska hasn't expanded their stadium? They could fill it without a doubt, but it's more important to make tickets scarce enough that people are willing to donate a lot to get preferred treatment. I think it makes sense for us to add another 5k or so, but you don't want to add so many that you even start to think about not selling out a game. You need that leverage to keep the donations flowing.

I get that and all, but not expanding the stadium now and building the luxury boxes has the effect of permanently capping the capacity of the stadium. They simply can't expand the bowl once the boxes are up.

I would question, and not that either of us have these answers, how much the income of additional seats ($70 x 20,000 x 6 = 8.4mil/yr) and dozens of luxury boxes would offset any donation loss. I'll also wonder what demand is present for season tickets. Michigan and Ohio State are expanding yet again because they have the demand; not saying the situations are identical, but they donation model exists there I know that firsthand. Could Notre Dame constantly sell out 100,000? I would have to believe that they would.

I don't have the answers, but I would sure as hell hope that Notre Dame is doing their homework on where they want to be in 25+ years in regards to their stadium, when dozens of schools will pass their capacity (i.e. experience) via that big conference cable money is pouring in and expanding stadiums.

 

[NDdomer2]

Frankly, I'm tired of people acting like Notre Dame has some horrible atmosphere. It's simply not true. USC people said it was the loudest place they had played in years.

Here's a news flash... you can still be loud sitting down... and the act of standing up for 100% of a game doesn't even really make sense. Who are you trying to intimidate when we have the ball on offense? Why would you want to stand during TV timeouts?

Notre Dame needs a jumbotron and it needs luxury boxes to get old rich people out of the important seats. Pumped in music was a step in the right direction and will hopefully continue to get better. For an 80k stadium though, it's pretty darn loud for important games when the team is putting a good product on the field. People who argue otherwise either don't know what they're talking about or want badly to prove how bad @ss of a fan they are vs all those sissies who sit sometimes.

What I want is an atmosphere that is loud and intimidating for our rivals. If USC says it's the loudest they've seen, then mission accomplished. For those of you want to go full retard... I mean... SEC... ask yourself if more "intimidation" is worth the corresponding increase of blackout drunk rednecks frequently getting into fights amongst themselves and engaging in other off-putting antics. I'm sorry, but I'll pass on the Preakness infield experience in favor of the one we currently have every time.

This. I have been going to ND games for around 20 years (very blessed) and I have never seen more trashy people (usually don't use terms like this but not really sure what else to classify) in the stadium as I have this year. There were multiple people kicked out during the first 5 minutes of the USC game just in my immediate sections. The stadium always rocks when the game is close and when we play rivals (when the product is worth rocking for as Lax points out). I certainly don't want to stand for over 3 hours straight. What is the point of that?

Stand when the game calls for it and cheer your *** off regardless.

 

[Cackalacky]

I get that and all, but not expanding the stadium now and building the luxury boxes has the effect of permanently capping the capacity of the stadium. They simply can't expand the bowl once the boxes are up.

I would question, and not that either of us have these answers, how much the income of additional seats ($70 x 20,000 x 6 = 8.4mil/yr) and dozens of luxury boxes would offset any donation loss. I'll also wonder what demand is present for season tickets. Michigan and Ohio State are expanding yet again because they have the demand; not saying the situations are identical, but they donation model exists there I know that firsthand. Could Notre Dame constantly sell out 100,000? I would have to believe that they would.

I don't have the answers, but I would sure as hell hope that Notre Dame is doing their homework on where they want to be in 25+ years in regards to their stadium, when dozens of schools will pass their capacity (i.e. experience) via that big conference cable money is pouring in and expanding stadiums.

Another question is what would an extra 20,000 people on the campus be like (parking, activities, etc.)

 

[ulukinatme]

What do my relatives have to do with the recruitment of Bo?

Personally, I think there are several opportunities during a game in which to have a seat. TV timouts, regular timeouts, change of possessions, etc. Why not stand and cheer for your team?

Just watching ND on tv, it appears the crowd is in to the game pretty well. Of course, it isn't like being there but it still sounds pretty loud, especially at the appropriate times.

The stadium has been awful quiet at big moments in previous years. It's getting better lately. Part of the reason is we're winning more of course, but I think piping the music into the stadium has helped. Gotta stand and cheer during defensive plays, and after scores of course. I'm fortunate that I've only been asked to sit down once, but I've heard others being asked to sit down before. I do have the benefit/misfortune of having access to family tickets in the box seats though. Lot of older alumni down there, which kind of stinks since they're closest to the field and on the opponent's side no less. That would be a great place to put rowdy fans, but about 1/4 to 1/3 of those box seats are blue hairs. Some cheer loudly, others would rather sit and clap or just watch. I may just be 31, but if I ever got to the point where I couldn't physically stand and cheer, I'm going to just stay home. If I ever told someone to sit down, put me out to pasture.

The game is more fun if you're cheering the team on and everyone else around you is as well. The energy is electric when everyone is into the game. Makes me kind of sad if the stadium is somewhat quiet and we're in the thick of a tough match. The players feed off that energy too, and in some cases it's rattled the opposing team and makes it tough to go with a snap count. As fans you should be required to be loud if you want to help the team.

 

[dublinirish]

seriously if somebody asked you to sit down at ANY sports event wouldnt you tell them to go shove it up their hole? I just can't understand it

 

[anarin]

(Mental note-come to bo's thread for stadium discussion)

 

[Cackalacky]

(Mental note-come to bo's thread for stadium discussion)

Well Bo isn't coming here so this thread will probably morph into whatever we want it to.

 

[Irish#1]

Well Bo isn't coming here so this thread will probably morph into whatever we want it to.

Damn it Cacky, I was just getting ready to ask how Bo's recruitment was going? lol

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Visited Bama again this past weekend (2 times in 3 weeks). T Town is his comfort zone and per BOL he has improved in the classroom. The only concern on the Bama side is the depth chart.

 

[Irish#1]

Doesn't sound too promising, but it's not over until I say it's over.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Visited Bama again this past weekend (2 times in 3 weeks). T Town is his comfort zone and per BOL he has improved in the classroom. The only concern on the Bama side is the depth chart.

He could redshirt one year - but Saban won't do that as he puts the best guys somewhere on the field. Still, his biggest competition at rb will be Henry and Tenpenny after Yeldon and Drake leave. Bo is as good as Henry and Tenpenny so the depth chart concerns should not be an issue. Now... if Fournette comes to T Town all bets are off. And Bama is making up some ground with LF. Still, I think he stays in La so I think Bo comes home.

 

[Luckylucci]

According to Mike Farrell and his mind of Mike segment, Bo was seen hanging out with Hand all weekend and trying very hard to influence hand to come to Bama with him. Apparently everything is just noise outside of T Town and Bo will be Bama.

 

[pumpdog20]

believe it or not, if you love Notre Dame and her football team, you don't want to expand that stadium much more than they have planned. We keep demand for tickets artificially high by limiting the quantity (compared to the Michigans, OSU's and Penn States of the world) which allows us to get TONS of donation money from people looking for higher priority in the ticket lottery and such. More money in the long run than we'd generate in increased ticket revenue, I believe. I'm pretty sure that donation money makes the actual football profit (43.2 million in 2011 and definitely more last year) look like drops in a bucket. As a student who relies on financial aid to attend ND, I personally don't want anything to change with that scenario.

This is crazy talk. i love ND football and I want more seats.

This is all true.

One thing I've noticed is that the bigger games have a completely different crowd. That should be expected, but I feel like people judge us on our Temple crowd. When young fans only have it in the budget to make one game a year, they aren't choosing Purdue or Temple. They are going to Oklahoma or USC. My sections have been 100% rowdier for the Oklahoma and USC games, especially the latter. This isn't the section where they seat the young alumni either. Most of the season tickets have been in the families for 50+ years. If my section is rowdy, then the rest of the stadium is as well.

I think what you get with games like Temple is more families, so maybe that is a reason for a more somber crowd. It's easy to get 5 tickets for your wife and kids at face value for a temple game, than it is to pay $200 per for a Michigan.

 

[Emcee77]

BOL says that Bo is enjoying the OV process and telling all the schools involved the right things in order to minimize pressure. Sources at all the schools seriously recruiting him feel confident about landing him, based on what he's telling them. Still committed to Bama but he will sit down after the season and weigh his options.

My take: Interesting update coming from a Bama site. The writer definitely didn't sound like he thinks of Bo as a firm commit; kind of sounded like Bo doesn't know where he's going right now.

 

[TheTurningPoint]

Things are about to get interesting in this recruitment

 

[PANDFAN]

Things are about to get interesting in this recruitment

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

Things are about to get interesting in this recruitment

So the 247 update said he is basically telling every school what they want to hear to minimize pressure and that his decision isn't made yet. Yeah?

Edit: I took it to mean that Alabama isn't necessarily in the lead or that he isn't that set on Bama

 

[Cackalacky]

 

[PANDFAN]

So the 247 update said he is basically telling every school what they want to hear to minimize pressure and that his decision isn't made yet. Yeah?

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

So the 247 update said he is basically telling every school what they want to hear to minimize pressure.

I know you edited your response, but I honestly think it is this. Because he keeps saying all the right things everyone thinks that have a shot.


TP, could he get into ND as it stands today?

 

[TheTurningPoint]

Depends on who you ask. I think winning will help with the admissions process. And ND may have found an interesting angle that they are in the exploration process of.

 

[PANDFAN]

Depends on who you ask. I think winning will help with the admissions process. And ND may have found an interesting angle that they are in the exploration process of.

man it sucks when you're in the dark when someone sees the light!!!! i know you can't explain...

 

[Irish#1]

Depends on who you ask. I think winning will help with the admissions process. And ND may have found an interesting angle that they are in the exploration process of.

That can only mean one thing. Get your protractor and compasses out.

 

[koonja]

Interesting angle?

Maybe he looked at the depth at LB and figured out he could start vs. Pitt, lol.

 

[irishog77]

Depends on who you ask. I think winning will help with the admissions process. And ND may have found an interesting angle that they are in the exploration process of.

What do you mean here?

 

[NDohio]

Depends on who you ask. I think winning will help with the admissions process. And ND may have found an interesting angle that they are in the exploration process of.

So he will be playing full time both ways?

 

[koonja]

He got an ND girl pregnant during his visit?

About time the baby drama works for us, lol!

 

[gkIrish]

Depends on who you ask. I think winning will help with the admissions process. And ND may have found an interesting angle that they are in the exploration process of.

What do you mean here?

I don't follow either. How does winning help us in the short-term with a specific recruit's ability to be admitted?

 

[Emcee77]

What do you mean here?

I don't follow either. How does winning help us in the short-term with a specific recruit's ability to be admitted?

I was wondering about this too. Winning will help with admissions ... meaning Bo will be more motivated to go the extra mile for ND if he feels like ND is an elite program? That's my only thought.

 

[Luckylucci]

I'm assuming its the more we win, the more Kelly gets his way because nobody wants to see what happens if we were to start going 6-6 again.