'13 OH QB Malik Zaire (Notre Dame Early Enrollee)

[Irish#1]

I don't think anyone is faulting him for trying to generate publicity and hype.

I just think the video was cringe-worthy lol

It's been obvious to me for years and over many topics that I am more amused than appalled by our kids' antics than most of IE --- comes from having them in the classroom at that age probably. --- you realize that they haven't grown THAT much since they were little.

Plus the price was right on his effort on the video.

IrishLion is right. I've always supported Malik and hope he does well at UF. I don't fault him or UF for trying to drum up some publicity. It's just that the final product was amusing in a cringe worthy way..

 

[dshans]

P.S. By the way,* Gator Bait, shouldn't "Picky, picky picky" have a second comma?

Fine, fine, and fine. *Here's your damn comma!





I even used that Oxford comma thing. Not my favorite, but if it'll help keep you happy ...

 

[IrishLion]

Fine, fine, and fine. *Here's your damn comma!





I even used that Oxford comma thing. Not my favorite, but if it'll help keep you happy ...

The Oxford comma is important.

 

[dshans]

The Oxford comma is important.

Yes, the comma, Oxford or otherwise, is an important grammatical tool, when necessary, to establish clarity.

There are times, though, when the "Oxford" comma is superfluous and a waste of a perfectly good device.

 

[IrishLion]

Yes, the comma, Oxford or otherwise, is important an important grammatical tool, when necessary, to establish clarity.

There are times, though, when the "Oxford" comma is superfluous and a waste of a perfectly good device.

Ahem.

But yes, I agree with you. Sometimes it's necessary, sometimes it's not.

I've never been firmly in one camp or the other. My initial statement should have read, "the Oxford comma can be important."

I never understood the fanatics that stand firmly on one side or the other.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Separate thread needed badly for Oxford Comma.

Posters could band together as Commies vs Anti-Commies.

 

[dshans]

Separate thread needed badly for Oxford Comma.

Posters could band together as Commies vs Anti-Commies.

A round of commie-ty all around.



Please return to your regular programming.

 

[Valpodoc85]

I thought the comma hawk chop was more an FSU thing.......no?

 

[GBdomer]

Where is Allgator when we need him?

Anzalone dad wasn't he?

 

[BGIF]

Ahem.

But yes, I agree with you. Sometimes it's necessary, sometimes it's not.

I've never been firmly in one camp or the other. My initial statement should have read, "the Oxford comma can be important."

I never understood the fanatics that stand firmly on one side or the other.

You obviously didn't have Sister Vilma for 7th Grade English.

 

[dublinirish]

https://www.seccountry.com/florida/sec-analysts-malik-zaire

McFarland, however, does not think highly of Zaire. In an interview ESPN Nashville, McFarland expressed doubts about the kind of impact Zaire could have on the Gators.

“Florida doesn’t know who their quarterback is going to be,” McFarland said. “Don’t tell me Malik Zaire. He couldn’t cut it at Notre Dame. You don’t just let good quarterbacks walk out the door. He’s serviceable, but he’s not a good quarterback.”

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/f...ators-plans-graduate-transfer-qb-malik-zaire/

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/CoachMcElwain">@CoachMcElwain</a> said Malik Zaire didn't come to UF to hold a clipboard. "and if you're afraid of the depth chart you can run away."</p>— Garry Smits (@gsmitter) <a href="https://twitter.com/gsmitter/status/884829819468480512">July 11, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[NDShark]

https://www.seccountry.com/florida/sec-analysts-malik-zaire



https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/f...ators-plans-graduate-transfer-qb-malik-zaire/

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/CoachMcElwain">@CoachMcElwain</a> said Malik Zaire didn't come to UF to hold a clipboard. "and if you're afraid of the depth chart you can run away."</p>— Garry Smits (@gsmitter) <a href="https://twitter.com/gsmitter/status/884829819468480512">July 11, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Lol Booger McFarland thinks that because he didn't beat out a second round draft pick and proven QB, then he "can't cut it"? I think I understand why he was named as such.

 

[ulukinatme]

Lol Booger McFarland thinks that because he didn't beat out a second round draft pick and proven QB, then he "can't cut it"? I think I understand why he was named as such.

Well said. Pre-injury, Malik was pretty good. MVP of that bowl game against LSU. He was good enough to hold off Kizer from taking his job in summer camp in 2015. Thoroughly dismantled a floundering, but still Power 5 team in Texas. Struggled against Virginia (The whole offense did), but started mounting a comeback as the injury happened. He was at least a decent QB before the injury, and it's tough to give him a complete analysis last year as he was interjected at the most random times last season and always in limited capacities. Lets not forget that the offense was tailored for Kizer once Malik went down, we completely got away from the run game that worked well for Malik. If Malik is 100% and Florida runs an offense that suits his skill set, I think he'll be good for them.

 

[BobbyMac]

Well said. Pre-injury, Malik was pretty good. MVP of that bowl game against LSU. He was good enough to hold off Kizer from taking his job in summer camp in 2015. Thoroughly dismantled a floundering, but still Power 5 team in Texas. Struggled against Virginia (The whole offense did), but started mounting a comeback as the injury happened. He was at least a decent QB before the injury, and it's tough to give him a complete analysis last year as he was interjected at the most random times last season and always in limited capacities. Lets not forget that the offense was tailored for Kizer once Malik went down, we completely got away from the run game that worked well for Malik. If Malik is 100% and Florida runs an offense that suits his skill set, I think he'll be good for them.

ND was leading 19-14 and was driving when he was injured on the UVA 24 with a minute left in the 3rd. Kizer comes in, first play hands to CJ and he goes in for the TD. Score now 26-14.

A whole quarter, two stalled DK drives and two UVA TD's happened before DK mounted the game winning, "comeback" drive that bailed BVG's defense out and didn't waste the 26-14 lead CJ and Malik built through the first 3 Qtrs.

 

[PANDFAN]

ND was leading 19-14 and was driving when he was injured on the UVA 24 with a minute left in the 3rd. Kizer comes in, first play hands to CJ and he goes in for the TD. Score now 26-14.

A whole quarter, two stalled DK drives and two UVA TD's happened before DK mounted the game winning, "comeback" drive that bailed BVG's defense out and didn't waste the 26-14 lead CJ and Malik built through the first 3 Qtrs.

i was at the game and besides the trick play, and a play here and there of chunk yardage, we were not looking good at all on offense...the tenuta blitzes actually were getting to him and throwing off the timing routes

 

[ulukinatme]

ND was leading 19-14 and was driving when he was injured on the UVA 24 with a minute left in the 3rd. Kizer comes in, first play hands to CJ and he goes in for the TD. Score now 26-14.

A whole quarter, two stalled DK drives and two UVA TD's happened before DK mounted the game winning, "comeback" drive that bailed BVG's defense out and didn't waste the 26-14 lead CJ and Malik built through the first 3 Qtrs.

Sorry, was going off memory, but you're right. The point is that Zaire was a pretty good QB prior to the injury, and it's a shame some schmuck is trashing him before he takes a snap at Florida. If he can get back to where he was before the injury, and the offense is tailored to his strengths, I think he'll be successful.

i was at the game and besides the trick play, and a play here and there of chunk yardage, we were not looking good at all on offense...the tenuta blitzes actually were getting to him and throwing off the timing routes

This. Zaire gets blamed much for the way that Virginia game went (As well as some games last year, which is silly), but it was a lack of adjustment and poor execution by the offense as a whole. We should have executed some screens along with getting the ball into the flat more often to counter the Tenuta blitzes. I'm sure Jon had something to prove after his career at ND, but we were playing right into his defense for a good part of the game.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

It is obvious Zaire belongs in an Auburn or Oregon-type system. Quick read, ever-present option systems. He's a run first QB with a strong arm but not great touch.

He wasn't the most accurate but he was good at evading pressure and making things happen when plays collapsed. And he's a tough runner.

I really hope he wins the job and does well while those around him fail.

 

[BobbyMac]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">#8 <a href="https://t.co/IwNhnRTqOR">pic.twitter.com/IwNhnRTqOR</a></p>— Malik Zaire (@MalikZaire8) <a href="https://twitter.com/MalikZaire8/status/891299229544665088">July 29, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[GainesvilleIrish]

As both a UF Grad and fan as well as a ND fan, I can shed some light onto the QB situation at UF for anyone interested. Florida plays Michigan first week at Jerry World so it's a big decision coming up for Coach Mac & Co.

Florida fans are almost totally divided 50/50 on Zaire and Franks. Florida has had such poor QB play since Tebow that a lot of people are just pessimistic about everything. Florida actually has a lot of skill on the offensive side of the ball. The WR corps are among the best in the country, the top RB Scarlett is being moved into some NFL boards and runs hard and for the first time under Mac, the OL has some experience and numbers.

Some see Zaire as someone who has taken less than 100 snaps and couldn't win the job on a 4-8 team, therefore not the answer. They think another one year plug is not what is needed and that Zaire won't be able to lead the team to a big season. Other issues people have are that he just enrolled and a couple weeks at camp might not be enough to master the offense and gel with the players.

There is a RS Freshman that was a 4* top 100 type guy that came in very raw, Felipe Franks. From everything said in practice over the last year and half, he doesn't seem to be ready to be a starter on a top 25 type team. His decision making is poor and still needs more time. However, he is a big kid with a big arm and is athletic so a lot of people think he can grow into a solid player.

Florida recently picked up a 5* commitment from a QB (Corral) that will early enroll in December for next year and everyone is really high on him. This could play into the factor if the staff thinks that he can be a starter day 1 bc you don't have to groom Franks if he will be beat out by Corral.

I personally think Zaire will win the job. He is a good decision maker and seems to give the team the best chance to win. The locker room has taken a liking to him and gives some positive energy and vibes already.

 

[stlnd01]

As both a UF Grad and fan as well as a ND fan, I can shed some light onto the QB situation at UF for anyone interested. Florida plays Michigan first week at Jerry World so it's a big decision coming up for Coach Mac & Co.

Florida fans are almost totally divided 50/50 on Zaire and Franks. Florida has had such poor QB play since Tebow that a lot of people are just pessimistic about everything. Florida actually has a lot of skill on the offensive side of the ball. The WR corps are among the best in the country, the top RB Scarlett is being moved into some NFL boards and runs hard and for the first time under Mac, the OL has some experience and numbers.

Some see Zaire as someone who has taken less than 100 snaps and couldn't win the job on a 4-8 team, therefore not the answer. They think another one year plug is not what is needed and that Zaire won't be able to lead the team to a big season. Other issues people have are that he just enrolled and a couple weeks at camp might not be enough to master the offense and gel with the players.

There is a RS Freshman that was a 4* top 100 type guy that came in very raw, Felipe Franks. From everything said in practice over the last year and half, he doesn't seem to be ready to be a starter on a top 25 type team. His decision making is poor and still needs more time. However, he is a big kid with a big arm and is athletic so a lot of people think he can grow into a solid player.

Florida recently picked up a 5* commitment from a QB (Corral) that will early enroll in December for next year and everyone is really high on him. This could play into the factor if the staff thinks that he can be a starter day 1 bc you don't have to groom Franks if he will be beat out by Corral.

I personally think Zaire will win the job. He is a good decision maker and seems to give the team the best chance to win. The locker room has taken a liking to him and gives some positive energy and vibes already.

Thanks for the insight. That's interesting. What little I've read definitely gives a "meh" vibe about Franks. It does seem a lot to bank on that incoming freshmen to be a day one starter in 2018, but maybe MZ as a one-year rental can give Franks a little time to grow into his arm and have a real QB derby next spring.
Either way, Zaire's a good kid, and does some things very well on the football field. Biggest limitation, I'd think, is that he just got there and doesn't know the system. But keep it simple, run a lot, and he can win some games. Worked for us against LSU.
And SEC talking heads can get bent. They all think Notre Dame and its players suck, always and in all ways. Fuck them.

 

[Irishize]

I'll be rooting for Malik but I don't seeing it ending well for him. I think he fits better in a Malzahn or Herman offense.

 

[NDbrbkny]

I guess Little Del Rio is done since he keeps getting injured?

 

[dublinirish]

Florida quarterback battle resets: Is Malik Zaire the favorite over Feleipe Franks? | OnlyGators.com

 

[Legacy]

Malik Zaire is ready to run the Florida offense. His teammates say he already can (Saturday Down South)

“Notre Dame, as a quarterback, is like the mecca of quarterbacks,” Zaire said Wednesday. “If you can be a quarterback at the University of Notre Dame, you’re on top.

“The same goes for Florida. If you’re a great quarterback at Florida, and you care a lot about being a quarterback, and you care a lot about winning games and being in the position where you can be in the spotlight because that’s how you’re made as a quarterback, Florida is the most perfect place to be.

“Who doesn’t want to be a Florida quarterback? Not many people get that opportunity. Being able to be a Florida quarterback, and left-handed, and knowing the history behind that and being in the SEC where the competition is great, you can’t really pass that up.”

 

[IrishLion]

HE CALLED HIMSELF THE BLACK TEBOW, BASICALLY.

That was a meme on IE for like three years. That's cool.

 

[ulukinatme]

He's got one thing possibly working against him: Doug Nussmeier

That's the same man that was responsible for orchestrating all these points for Michigan in 2014:

 

[GainesvilleIrish]

Little update for anyone interested... so what most people expected to be a 2 person race before camp between MZ and redshirt freshman Felipe Franks actually turned out to be a 3 person battle when camp started, adding Luke Del Rio who started last year and played what I could call average before getting hurt about 1/3 through the season.

Malik hasn't performed well though in fall camp. The majority of the plays he makes are with his legs and apparently hasn't thrown the ball well at all so far. Most Gator reporters are thinking he is pretty much out of the running to start now & its a two person battle now to start. They are saying MZ most likely will be 3rd string to start the season.

No telling how much the reporters know bc they don't see much besides the first 10-20 min of most practices so could be way off. Also don't know how much stock having big game experience could play in to the factor that MZ has. Just thought I would pass along because I'm actually pretty surprised. I would have put a pretty sizable bet that Zaire was going to start when camp started.

 

[Luckylucci]

Little update for anyone interested... so what most people expected to be a 2 person race before camp between MZ and redshirt freshman Felipe Franks actually turned out to be a 3 person battle when camp started, adding Luke Del Rio who started last year and played what I could call average before getting hurt about 1/3 through the season.

Malik hasn't performed well though in fall camp. The majority of the plays he makes are with his legs and apparently hasn't thrown the ball well at all so far. Most Gator reporters are thinking he is pretty much out of the running to start now & its a two person battle now to start. They are saying MZ most likely will be 3rd string to start the season.

No telling how much the reporters know bc they don't see much besides the first 10-20 min of most practices so could be way off. Also don't know how much stock having big game experience could play in to the factor that MZ has. Just thought I would pass along because I'm actually pretty surprised. I would have put a pretty sizable bet that Zaire was going to start when camp started.

This wouldn't be surprising as he's never shown the ability to consistently push the ball downfield or be consistent with his accuracy.

Don't get me wrong, in the right offense, I think he could be very dynamic. It just might not be Florida's.

 

[dwshade]

Should have gone to Harvard for the education.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Should have gone to Harvard for the education.

Well the Ivy League doesn't actually take grad transfers so this was apparently never an option