'12 AZ WR Davonte Neal (Arizona Transfer)

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Bogtrotter07

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It's not like he is wrong, guy just has a different gear then everyone else. Would love to see him as our starting return guy and slot WR this year.

I am okay with waiting for Saunders next year. With Neal, love his ability, not a fan of much else. Saunders has the skill, the work ethic, and the mental makeup.
 

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Alright. I've moved this conversation as to not interfere with the Tillery thread. What is it that I'm missing? I've done the research on this thread and found nothing. Somebody give me facts or sources, because other than that, you who are saying the daughter story is just a cover up have no leg to stand on.
 

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Alright. I've moved this conversation as to not interfere with the Tillery thread. What is it that I'm missing? I've done the research on this thread and found nothing. Somebody give me facts or sources, because other than that, you who are saying the daughter story is just a cover up have no leg to stand on.

The politics involved with him getting pushed out are kept private for a reason. It wasn't his choice to be by his kid. It also wasn't weed as some have theorized.

I do not understand your "need to know" to keep drudging up incidents that happened multiple years ago. Suffice to say those that do know would never share the information with someone who behaves like you do here, as there is little to no chance it would stay private.

Move on.
 

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The politics involved with him getting pushed out are kept private for a reason. It wasn't his choice to be by his kid. It also wasn't weed as some have theorized.

I do not understand your "need to know" to keep drudging up incidents that happened multiple years ago. Suffice to say those that do know would never share the information with someone who behaves like you do here, as there is little to no chance it would stay private.

Move on.

No. Needless to say, I've been nothing but diplomatic in my approach. My behavior is nothing short of normal, while being bombarded by people claiming "I'm wrong" or "Way off" or "Have no idea what you're talking about", while giving nothing tangible to work with. I have asked for facts or sources or something tangible the whole time and received nothing. So, needless to say, I deserve answers. I did the research and backed up my argument, but was met with the same responses. That's unacceptable.
 

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No. Needless to say, I've been nothing but diplomatic in my approach. My behavior is nothing short of normal, while being bombarded by people claiming "I'm wrong" or "Way off" or "Have no idea what you're talking about", while giving nothing tangible to work with. I have asked for facts or sources or something tangible the whole time and received nothing. So, needless to say, I deserve answers. I did the research and backed up my argument, but was met with the same responses. That's unacceptable.

He killed a man. Had to leave the state.
 

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He killed a man. Had to leave the state.

So, is he living in a cabin with these guys?

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So, is he living in a cabin with these guys?

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Closer to the truth than you'd like to know.
 

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No. Needless to say, I've been nothing but diplomatic in my approach. My behavior is nothing short of normal, while being bombarded by people claiming "I'm wrong" or "Way off" or "Have no idea what you're talking about", while giving nothing tangible to work with. I have asked for facts or sources or something tangible the whole time and received nothing. So, needless to say, I deserve answers. I did the research and backed up my argument, but was met with the same responses. That's unacceptable.

Lol... where do you get off DEMANDING information?

I'll try to spell this out again: there are certain members of this board (not me) who are legitimate insiders or professionally cover ND or are otherwise connected to the program. From these sources, it was made very clear what happened with Neal, and it was nothing to do with cover story of moving home to be close to his kid. The end.

Is that good enough? I'm guessing not, because reading back the initial discussions that I wasn't a part of, many people already explained something similar to you. I don't know what world you live in where you think you have the right to demand these people share the specifics of information that is not meant to be public, and furthermore demanding the "source" of that information. Completely ridiculous.
 

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No. Needless to say, I've been nothing but diplomatic in my approach. My behavior is nothing short of normal, while being bombarded by people claiming "I'm wrong" or "Way off" or "Have no idea what you're talking about", while giving nothing tangible to work with. I have asked for facts or sources or something tangible the whole time and received nothing. So, needless to say, I deserve answers. I did the research and backed up my argument, but was met with the same responses. That's unacceptable.


Call ND and tell them, "I deserve answers". When they mention FERPA call your congress person and complain. Be sure to tell them, "I deserve answers".

You don't deserve squat. Quite a few people have taken a good deal of time in multiple threads patiently dealing with your adolescent "I deserve to know" hissy fits. Others have bombarded you because they saw through your act.

Why don't you take your trolling act over to NDN as IE is so "unacceptable"? I'll bet you don't last a day over there pulling your "I deserve" nonsense.
 

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Lol... where do you get off DEMANDING information?

I'll try to spell this out again: there are certain members of this board (not me) who are legitimate insiders or professionally cover ND or are otherwise connected to the program. From these sources, it was made very clear what happened with Neal, and it was nothing to do with cover story of moving home to be close to his kid. The end.

Is that good enough? I'm guessing not, because reading back the initial discussions that I wasn't a part of, many people already explained something similar to you. I don't know what world you live in where you think you have the right to demand these people share the specifics of information that is not meant to be public, and furthermore demanding the "source" of that information. Completely ridiculous.

I never DEMANDED information, you just made that up. But after the research I've done, I think I believe I've earned the right to be in the loop with the other billion other people on this site that know what's going on.

That isn't good enough. It simply states that something happened and he was asked to leave, and then they told me to go to this thread and find info on it. I found nothing, not even rumors or possible scenarios. It just says they wish him well and it was a mature decision to live closer to his daughter. So, now that the reality of that situation has been completely distorted, I'm understandably and reasonably interested in knowing something tangible involving this situation. They said nothing as to what it possibly could be, drug related, criminal related, fights? But it seems like I'm getting anywhere with this. It's a shame that several hundred people on here are considered worthy of information regarding this, but I apparently don't fit the bill.
 

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Lol... where do you get off DEMANDING information?

I'll try to spell this out again: there are certain members of this board (not me) who are legitimate insiders or professionally cover ND or are otherwise connected to the program. From these sources, it was made very clear what happened with Neal, and it was nothing to do with cover story of moving home to be close to his kid. The end.

Is that good enough? I'm guessing not, because reading back the initial discussions that I wasn't a part of, many people already explained something similar to you. I don't know what world you live in where you think you have the right to demand these people share the specifics of information that is not meant to be public, and furthermore demanding the "source" of that information. Completely ridiculous.

Always appreciate your input and like everyone else am getting tired of the back and forth with everyone and NDSean. IMO, I think what is frustrating him is the bolded part. I personally don't need to know all the details and have no clue why it is so important to him. I do know that letting Neal leave with the impression it was to be closer to his child was good for all involved but was not the truth. I never knew exactly what happened and thought it was the weed...again, don't really care to know because it is none of my business, just disappointed he is gone. However, I never saw in any thread here what the actual reason was that was "made very clear". Not doubting you, just saying that I never saw it and that seems to be what is pissing NDSean off. If what happened was put on here in print, then I don't see the harm in telling him in a PM so this crap can stop. If it was a "read between the lines and it is clear" kind of deal then he needs to be able to decipher that himself. JMNO.
 

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NVM, just saw he was banned. Well at least the constant bickering is over. Reps to the mod.
 

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Always appreciate your input and like everyone else am getting tired of the back and forth with everyone and NDSean. IMO, I think what is frustrating him is the bolded part. I personally don't need to know all the details and have no clue why it is so important to him. I do know that letting Neal leave with the impression it was to be closer to his child was good for all involved but was not the truth. I never knew exactly what happened and thought it was the weed...again, don't really care to know because it is none of my business, just disappointed he is gone. However, I never saw in any thread here what the actual reason was that was "made very clear". Not doubting you, just saying that I never saw it and that seems to be what is pissing NDSean off. If what happened was put on here in print, then I don't see the harm in telling him in a PM so this crap can stop. If it was a "read between the lines and it is clear" kind of deal then he needs to be able to decipher that himself. JMNO.

i agree with this, but at same time the whole Davonte thing is practically folklore on here now with folks guessing what actually went on. I'm sure the truth is actually quite boring in comparison :)
 

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dad4aa... you're correct, and I don't think I phrased that very well. What I meant to say was these "sources" made it very clear to me (and some others) what occurred with Neal.

What people made clear to Sean before I ever jumped in was that it wasn't a transfer of his own volition to be close to his kid. And that people didn't want to share/discuss what they believe did happen.

I just don't understand how someone can sit there and say "I DESERVE TO KNOW! I'VE EARNED ANSWERS!" when people have clearly said they don't want to share/discuss.
 
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"Hundreds of people" don't know, Sean. Some people know, and it's better for everyone involved that it remains out of the public. His dad shopped the "baby" story around to multiple reporters, and found one (who was leaving the industry and didn't give a rip) to bite, and that's why the story is out there. He just wasn't a good fit for ND. The end.

Your post demanding answers was laughable and embarrassing at best. There's tons of info I wish I knew about all kinds of topics and don't know, but oh well. I don't "deserve" anything LOL. When you come back, I'd suggest you let this one go...
 

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lost in the NSD news shuffle, but Davonte has requested a move to defense to play cornerback
 

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Are you sure it was his decision, or maybe others made the decision for him...? I demand to know.
 

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Are you sure it was his decision, or maybe others made the decision for him...? I demand to know.

Well I could tell you and end this conversation once and for all, but I'll just say you're wrong and know nothing about it, and leave it at that.
 

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The one story I read about the change said he didn't show he had the hands to be an elite receiver. Weird.

*Drops every punt return kicked to him while at ND*
 
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