'11 SC QB Everett Golson (FSU transfer)

[BobbyMac]

Lemme see, why would anyone think Golson will put up good numbers this year and look awesome:

Texas State Bobcats
USF Bulls
@ Boston College Eagles
week off
@ Wake Forest Demon Deacons
Miami Hurricanes
Louisville Cardinals
@ Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets
Syracuse Orange
@ Clemson Tigers
NC State Wolfpack
Chattanooga Mocs
@ Florida Gators

The guy can sleep in the entire month of September.

Also look at their WR roster. Full of 5 star talent.

Golson picked a great spot for him. They will chuck it around and WRs have skills to bail him out.

Agreed. What do you see for a record? Excluding bowl game, I'm going 10-3 with 2 loses to GT and one to either BC or Clemson. That BC game will tell you a lot about their season. It wouldn't shock me if they went 9-3 or went 12-1. I wish him well.

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[zelezo vlk]

Does Louisville return a lot of talent?

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[Irish YJ]

so I thought about this most of the day when I had a few minutes here and there to think. now really looking forward to going to the FSU/GT game. I hope GT puts 400 yards of ground game on FSU, and sacks Golston 10 times. He is no longer Irish to me, graduate or not.

 

[FLDomer]

The things that could hurt Golsons numbers are FSU lost some talent on oline and if Cook is out their running game could take a hit.

 

[Circa]

Hear! Hear!

I want every opponent to go 11-1. Let them miss out on an NC by a 1 point loss to ND on a FG made at the gun or a FG blocked on the final play. "Oooooh, you were that close Trojans, what a shame."


When Michigan was on our schedule I rooted for their losses in the Winningest Percentage battle but I wanted enough wins to help our Strength of Schedule. Now that they're off our schedule, 0-12 would be acceptable.


Never understood the Alabama/Auburn fan concept of rooting for you opponent to go winless. "I'm a Bama fan, I root for The Tide and whoever's playing Auburn." Where's the glory in beating a doormat? It's like scheduling IAA Southeast Nowhere State ... yeah, right, they do that too.

I've admittedly become friends with a few of these people. They say the hate runs that deep for the most part. I just find It odd that hate can be that over the top as to make you want part failure for your own season.

 

[IrishLax]

I rooted for USC to lose every game while they had Kiffin, because I loathed him.

I will always root for Michigan to lose every game they play regardless of whether or not they're on our schedule.

 

[Classic Irish]

Disagree. I NEVER root for USC to win. I enjoy a loss by them (and the subsequent fall out and schadenfreude) almost as much as I do a Notre Dame win.

(Although, my hatred for the SEC MIGHT make me root for them against Bama next year. Ugh.)

Totally agree. I'd be happy if southern cal never won another game. If al Qaeda or ISIS fielded a football team and played southern cal, I'm not sure which team I'd want to win. I loathe everything about that school.

 

[pumpdog20]

I rooted for USC to lose every game while they had Kiffin, because I loathed him.

I will always root for Michigan to lose every game they play regardless of whether or not they're on our schedule.

Yeah, there's a reason the saying is "Fuck Michigan" around here.

 

[Irish YJ]

That type of season would be boarderline erotic to me...

just borderline?

 

[irishtrain]

Based on what, exactly? Is it his fumbles or his undersized frame that give you such great confidence?

Like I said if he gets thru camp as no#1 and starts the season as such he will be one of the top 3-5 QB;s in the country. Hell he was almost that last year until the whole game plan was how he could control the game, keep the defense off the field, and make plays. Kelly is a tremendous coach but-last year he gambled with Golson being used like a junior high QB that was just better than anyone else and his gamble lost.

 

[wizards8507]

Like I said if he gets thru camp as no#1 and starts the season as such he will be one of the top 3-5 QB;s in the country.

I bet you all my vBucks that's not the case. We use ESPN Total QBR after all bowls and playoff games.

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[Old Man Mike]

On personal-level wishes, I'll go all Catholic here and wish the young man a happy healthy season.

On football-related issues, I'll go all Notre Dame here and wish that someway, Everett-caused or not, FSU loses several games. This is for recruiting purposes [the exact same way I feel about OSU, USC, UCLA, Stanford, Michigan, Miami, Florida, Texas, A&M, Clemson, Alabama --- though there I add several other college-football-related reasons to wish they go under .500 --- and maybe a few others.]

On a Kelly-loyalty-related issue, I'll go all Coach here and hope that even with big statistics, we see the same occasional Deer-in-the-headlights non-leadership out of Golson that characterized his ND career, whether he keeps fumbling or not.

 

[GoldenToTheGrave]

I'm proposing a motion to change his official spelling on this site to Gholston out of sheer pettiness.

 

[irishtrain]

And the defense fell apart thru injury and non experience and lack of depth due to academics. I respect and as said think Kelly is one of the top 3 coaches in the country but he tried to win last year by optimizing Golson and the offense. I don't know if what you guys say is true or not about Golson all I'm saying is that he put him in a position where it was all on him and it did not work. From a talent standpoint this guy was off the chart. From a leadership standpoint I'm not on the inside to know. He wont have to lead at FSU just throw touchdown passes and run enough to keep the defense honest. I think he puts up eye popping numbers down there. If he is the starter if not then all you guys a right.

 

[Meacon Irish]

Florida State could very much lose to Boston College on the road. BC has been vastly improved under Addazio. If they don't go in there ready to fight, the Eagles could send them back to Tallahassee with a L.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Florida State could very much lose to Boston College on the road. BC has been vastly improved under Addazio. If they don't go in there ready to fight, the Eagles could send them back to Tallahassee with a L.

BC replaces their entire starting O Line. I'm not sure the chemistry will be there by the time they play FSU

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[ThePiombino]

BC replaces their entire starting O Line. I'm not sure the chemistry will be there by the time they play FSU

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That and FSU is FAR superior to BC. It ain't happening, as much as we would love that.

 

[ulukinatme]

That and FSU is FAR superior to BC. It ain't happening, as much as we would love that.

On paper they should be, but BC played above their level last season. They knocked off USC, who wasn't a great team but they spanked us. They went toe to toe with FSU as we did. They took Penn State to overtime who did the same with tOSU. Other than losing to Louisville by 19, they were roughly within 1 score in each of their losses last season. Who knows what will happen with their OL situation, but Addazio is putting together a hard nosed team that fights. He's part of that tree of coaches that came out of ND in the late 90s from the Holtz/Davie led teams, similar to Charlie Strong, Dan Mullen, and Urban. Those guys know how to coach and get the most out of their players.

 

[ThePiombino]

On paper they should be, but BC played above their level last season. They knocked off USC, who wasn't a great team but they spanked us. They went toe to toe with FSU as we did. They took Penn State to overtime who did the same with tOSU. Other than losing to Louisville by 19, they were roughly within 1 score in each of their losses last season. Who knows what will happen with their OL situation, but Addazio is putting together a hard nosed team that fights. He's part of that tree of coaches that came out of ND in the late 90s from the Holtz/Davie led teams, similar to Charlie Strong, Dan Mullen, and Urban. Those guys know how to coach and get the most out of their players.

I agree that Addazio is a good coach, and I have no doubt that BC will make FSU earn it. HOWEVER, at the end of the day we seem to disagree on two major points:

1) I see zero value in applying the transitive property to college football, or sports at all, so all the "A beat B, B beat C, therefore A should beat C" talk is moot IMO.

2) All the hard-nosed, blue collar players in the world still can't hold a candle to the talent pool that FSU has. And it's not like those boys aren't getting good coaching. I see the SC game as more an anomaly than the rule last year. It's all about matchups and I just don't see where BC has the edge in any facet of the game.

 

[Old Man Mike]

I doubt that they'll win either, but what BC has that the FSUs and USCs are hit-and-miss about is that they CARE every game, and will hit you in the face to demonstrate that.

FSU on cruise control plus Everett having "one of those days" and I don't believe that BC should be regarded as an impossible bunch of chumps in that game --- nor in ours.

 

[Blaise]

I hate USC, but I won't say I would never root for them... If we were shitting 5th in playoffs, and USC is playing #4 Oregon in the championship game.. I would root for USC so we get in...

As for EG, I like him... I think he has game and as much as I am glad Zaire is starting, I wish we had his experience to back up MZ.... I will root for him to do well, just not well enough to take a playoff spot lol

 

[ulukinatme]

I agree that Addazio is a good coach, and I have no doubt that BC will make FSU earn it. HOWEVER, at the end of the day we seem to disagree on two major points:

1) I see zero value in applying the transitive property to college football, or sports at all, so all the "A beat B, B beat C, therefore A should beat C" talk is moot IMO.

2) All the hard-nosed, blue collar players in the world still can't hold a candle to the talent pool that FSU has. And it's not like those boys aren't getting good coaching. I see the SC game as more an anomaly than the rule last year. It's all about matchups and I just don't see where BC has the edge in any facet of the game.

I agree, I'm not really a big fan of the transitive property in football because it has no place, I'm a bit of a hypocrite I guess. What I was really trying to get at is that BC is an improved team and stood toe to toe with FSU last year. This is despite calls last season that BC couldn't make a bowl game in 2014 for a second straight year after losing talent from their 2013 team. This year people are saying the same: BC can't win because they lost too many players. I think it could be a competitive game again, especially if Everett turns the ball over. That's the equalizer there. I certainly don't expect BC to win though.

As far as comparing BC's players to FSU's players, there really isn't a comparison, you're right. BC might come in with more fire and heart, but from a talent perspective they're two very different teams. If Addazio can get the running game going against FSU he'll help keep the ball out of Everett's hands, and if Everett can't keep the ball in his hands when he does have it that's the best shot BC has to pull the upset.

 

[wizards8507]

All the hard-nosed, blue collar players in the world still can't hold a candle to the talent pool that FSU has. And it's not like those boys aren't getting good coaching. I see the SC game as more an anomaly than the rule last year. It's all about matchups and I just don't see where BC has the edge in any facet of the game.

QB Tyler Murphy, Boston College run over No. 9 USC

 

[BGIF]

I agree, I'm not really a big fan of the transitive property in football because it has no place, I'm a bit of a hypocrite I guess. What I was really trying to get at is that BC is an improved team and stood toe to toe with FSU last year. This is despite calls last season that BC couldn't make a bowl game in 2014 for a second straight year after losing talent from their 2013 team. This year people are saying the same: BC can't win because they lost too many players. I think it could be a competitive game again, especially if Everett turns the ball over. That's the equalizer there. I certainly don't expect BC to win though.

As far as comparing BC's players to FSU's players, there really isn't a comparison, you're right. BC might come in with more fire and heart, but from a talent perspective they're two very different teams. If Addazio can get the running game going against FSU he'll help keep the ball out of Everett's hands, and if Everett can't keep the ball in his hands when he does have it that's the best shot BC has to pull the upset.

IF Addazio keeps the ball out of Golson's hands, how is he going to get it back? Kick offs after Nole scores?

 

[NCND]

QB Tyler Murphy, Boston College run over No. 9 USC

Agree. And they played FSU down to the final minute. Missed a 42 yard FG to win.

 

[wizards8507]

Agree. And they played FSU down to the final minute. Missed a 42 yard FG to win.

Plus, it's a Friday night game and probably the only one all season the BC students will bother to attend.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Tyler Murphy saved them last year. Without him, they will be much less dangerous on offense.

 

[ulukinatme]

IF Addazio keeps the ball out of Golson's hands, how is he going to get it back? Kick offs after Nole scores?

I think there's a joke here, but I'm running on 2 hours of sleep today and it's escaping me. In any case, BC's best chance of winning is to pound the ball well to control the clock and hope that Golson turns the ball over.

 

[TDHeysus]

Tyler Murphy saved them last year. Without him, they will be much less dangerous on offense.

also last year, usc went across the country and played an early start game. something they typically (and probably never will again) do.

 

[NCND]

also last year, usc went across the country and played an early start game. something they typically (and probably never will again) do.

No. Easy google search says and I watched.. it was an 8pm start.