'11 SC QB Everett Golson (FSU transfer)

[Kingbish01]

Louis Anthony Nix III Two are a lie. One is the truth.
1. He's going to LSU
2. He's going to FSU
3. He's going to Louisville
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[BobbyMac]

I had finally come around to the thinking he would stay and accept the split role. I should of stayed with my first impression. Personally I would have left and went to East Carolina to wing it for the pro scouts as soon as I got the diploma.

This is Malik's team, not just now but for the next 3 years. There is a very real chance there could have been major locker room problems with them both in it. It's one reason I think OSU will not be the same next year, too many chiefs in the tee pee.

In a perfect world I would have wanted him to stay and taken 25% of the snaps - and to be MZ's Tommy Rees as Tommy was for him in '12. If that would have played out harmoniously, I'd have been all for it but that comes with the risk of locker room drama. MZ's here for the next three years so it's good he gets to play and feel that the program is behind him 100%.

Let me now address the worst thing about this scenario... if or when ND loses ONE game, it will be because Golson was not there to lead the team to victory. It's a fact, so get ready for it.

One last thing... as all can see by my sig, I'm an MZ fan. (I even scooped the media and told MZ's Dad about Golson this morning) But if the roles were reversed where Golson had 3 years left and Malik had 1, I'd have wanted Golson to stay instead. This is more about the potential of the next 3 years more so than the fundamental concepts of ball security, establishing the run and being a prototypical leader at QB. Don't get me wrong, I think MZ will be better at those than EG but to me it's all about the next 3 years which I think can be Holtz era-esque. The Kelly era has been too segmented. QB questions, failures suspensions... early declare-er's, suspension and injuries to too many others. It's lining up now that besides Jalen, ND has a great core group of players who will be together for a while led by 3 years form your starting QB and the deepest OL in the game.

I wish nothing but the best for Everett at his next stop. I applaud him for the graceful way he handled his challenging career at ND. That took REAL balls to own it the way he did and he was rewarded with a piece of paper that will unlock doors for a lifetime. I will be behind him 100% next year as he showcases his skills for NFL scouts and I hope that if it is his dream to play professional football that he succeeds at the highest level possible.

Thanks for the memories Everett there were many great ones and those are the ones we remember down the road.

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[BoredIrish]

It's funny to me how many of you guys are happy about this. Wouldn't be surprised if he's better than whoever we put in this year. I hope not, but it wouldn't surprise me. Good luck to him.

I'm not happy at all about this. I loved EG... and there is no doubt in my mind that he will put up HUGE numbers, wherever he goes. I just wish it was at ND.

BUT... for some reason, drama just seems to follow EG wherever he goes. I'm just sick of ND winning the NC in drama every single flippen year. Zaire is steady, solid and a good leader. With him behind center, ND will pound the football with their 3 good RB's behind a monster O line.

NO MORE DRAMA!!! NO MORE TO's!!! Pound the ball and play power football. Give me 9-10 wins with defense and a strong running game over shoot-outs and TO's and the promise of 12 wins seasons only to flame out with 8.

Although I love Everette, I think he is part of the early BK recruiting classes where he didnt quite understand what to look for in an ND student athlete. Give me the Winbush-Trumbetti types over the Golson-Lynch types any day of the week.

 

[T Town Tommy]

If this is the case, then why wasn't this EVER brought up when all that LSU smoke started coming out right after the bowl game?

Dunno. It was still in affect when Coker transferred to Bama two years ago. Maybe they changed the rules. I seem to recall a player at UF last year that was a one year grad transfer. He only got a second year after he received a medical hardship iirc.

 

[Wild Bill]

If he can get past that SEC rule, Florida is a good landing spot for him IMO. McElwain will showcase him and his system combined with Florida's running backs will keep him efficient as possible. They have some cupcakes on the schedule so EG can pad his stats on his way to the NFL. I think the Gators could sneak into the SEC title game too. That won't hurt EG's stock either.

 

[IrishLion]

I had finally come around to the thinking he would stay and accept the split role. I should of stayed with my first impression. Personally I would have left and went to East Carolina to wing it for the pro scouts as soon as I got the diploma.

This is Malik's team, not just now but for the next 3 years. There is a very real chance there could have been major locker room problems with them both in it. It's one reason I think OSU will not be the same next year, too many chiefs in the tee pee.

In a perfect world I would have wanted him to stay and taken 25% of the snaps - and to be MZ's Tommy Rees as Tommy was for him in '12. If that would have played out harmoniously, I'd have been all for it but that comes with the risk of locker room drama. MZ's here for the next three years so it's good he gets to play and feel that the program is behind him 100%.

Let me now address the worst thing about this scenario... if or when ND loses ONE game, it will be because Golson was not there to lead the team to victory. It's a fact, so get ready for it.

One last thing... as all can see by my sig, I'm an MZ fan. (I even scooped the media and told MZ's Dad about Golson this morning) But if the roles were reversed where Golson had 3 years left and Malik had 1, I'd have wanted Golson to stay instead. This is more about the potential of the next 3 years more so than the fundamental concepts of ball security, establishing the run and being a prototypical leader at QB. Don't get me wrong, I think MZ will be better at those than EG but to me it's all about the next 3 years which I think can be Holtz era-esque. The Kelly era has been too segmented. QB questions, failures suspensions... early declare-er's, suspension and injuries to too many others. It's lining up now that besides Jalen, ND has a great core group of players who will be together for a while led by 3 years form your starting QB and the deepest OL in the game.

I wish nothing but the best for Everett at his next stop. I applaud him for the graceful way he handled his challenging career at ND. That took REAL balls to own it the way he did and he was rewarded with a piece of paper that will unlock doors for a lifetime. I will be behind him 100% next year as he showcases his skills for NFL scouts and I hope that if it is his dream to play professional football that he succeeds at the highest level possible.

Thanks for the memories Everett there were many great ones and those are the ones we remember down the road.

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Well, we're not just gonna let this little gem float by.

Do elaborate.

 

[Cogs]

I had finally come around to the thinking he would stay and accept the split role. I should of stayed with my first impression. Personally I would have left and went to East Carolina to wing it for the pro scouts as soon as I got the diploma.

This is Malik's team, not just now but for the next 3 years. There is a very real chance there could have been major locker room problems with them both in it. It's one reason I think OSU will not be the same next year, too many chiefs in the tee pee.

In a perfect world I would have wanted him to stay and taken 25% of the snaps - and to be MZ's Tommy Rees as Tommy was for him in '12. If that would have played out harmoniously, I'd have been all for it but that comes with the risk of locker room drama. MZ's here for the next three years so it's good he gets to play and feel that the program is behind him 100%.

Let me now address the worst thing about this scenario... if or when ND loses ONE game, it will be because Golson was not there to lead the team to victory. It's a fact, so get ready for it.

One last thing... as all can see by my sig, I'm an MZ fan. (I even scooped the media and told MZ's Dad about Golson this morning) But if the roles were reversed where Golson had 3 years left and Malik had 1, I'd have wanted Golson to stay instead. This is more about the potential of the next 3 years more so than the fundamental concepts of ball security, establishing the run and being a prototypical leader at QB. Don't get me wrong, I think MZ will be better at those than EG but to me it's all about the next 3 years which I think can be Holtz era-esque. The Kelly era has been too segmented. QB questions, failures suspensions... early declare-er's, suspension and injuries to too many others. It's lining up now that besides Jalen, ND has a great core group of players who will be together for a while led by 3 years form your starting QB and the deepest OL in the game.

I wish nothing but the best for Everett at his next stop. I applaud him for the graceful way he handled his challenging career at ND. That took REAL balls to own it the way he did and he was rewarded with a piece of paper that will unlock doors for a lifetime. I will be behind him 100% next year as he showcases his skills for NFL scouts and I hope that if it is his dream to play professional football that he succeeds at the highest level possible.

Thanks for the memories Everett there were many great ones and those are the ones we remember down the road.

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I was 100% sure Golson was transferring. There are at least 12 schools pretty much guaranteeing him a starting spot, I don't understand how people honestly thought he would stay at ND unless Kelly was for sure starting him.

Oh and BTW... can Texas pick him up? That would be pretty funny. If he can get past the SEC rules, I think it's LSU, or FL - possibly UCLA

 

[T Town Tommy]

If he can get past that SEC rule, Florida is a good landing spot for him IMO. McElwain will showcase him and his system combined with Florida's running backs will keep him efficient as possible. They have some cupcakes on the schedule so EG can pad his stats on his way to the NFL. I think the Gators could sneak into the SEC title game too. That won't hurt EG's stock either.

That Gator OL is the real question. Hardly any experience at all for them. They may end up being a pretty good unit but right now that is a big question mark. LSU would be EG's best shot at immediate impact. Or maybe with the OBC if Stevie can get by the recruitment issues he had when EG was coming out of HS. Seemed to remember him and EG not getting along very well then.

 

[BobbyMac]

I respect the hell outta Keith, but ummmm no. Williams not coming back isn't about roster management.

Mathmatically... yeah that's a true statement but you're right, that's not IW's first hurdle. It's really a 5th year player who's on campus got the 100% guarantee today.

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[connor_in]

Louis Anthony Nix III Two are a lie. One is the truth.
1. He's going to LSU
2. He's going to FSU
3. He's going to Louisville
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FWIW

can we paste Louis' face on Laurence Fishburne's body from the Matrix? with this?

 

[BobbyMac]

I was 100% sure Golson was transferring. There are at least 12 schools pretty much guaranteeing him a starting spot, I don't understand how people honestly thought he would stay at ND unless Kelly was for sure starting him.

I was the same way but when the other QB's Dad changes his tune and tells you it looks like EG's gonna stay it tends to sway your opinion. You can go back and look at my posts, I said EG was trasferring to East Carolina or Marshall going back to before the SC game.

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[returnofthemack]

I think Golson gave us the best chance to contend for a National Championship this year. I like Zaire a lot, and I'm extremely excited for our future with him as QB. However, it's ridiculous not to expect growing pains with a first-year QB under Kelly. And any other year, I think we'd all be fine with that because of the potential for future greatness. However, this is our year for the NC due to the massive amount of experienced talent on the roster. We can't stockpile talent like the SEC teams do, and I can't help but feel this is a wasted opportunity. I certainly hope Zaire proves me wrong and I hope Golson absolutely crushes it wherever he goes.

 

[NDohio]

I had finally come around to the thinking he would stay and accept the split role. I should of stayed with my first impression. Personally I would have left and went to East Carolina to wing it for the pro scouts as soon as I got the diploma.

This is Malik's team, not just now but for the next 3 years. There is a very real chance there could have been major locker room problems with them both in it. It's one reason I think OSU will not be the same next year, too many chiefs in the tee pee.

In a perfect world I would have wanted him to stay and taken 25% of the snaps - and to be MZ's Tommy Rees as Tommy was for him in '12. If that would have played out harmoniously, I'd have been all for it but that comes with the risk of locker room drama. MZ's here for the next three years so it's good he gets to play and feel that the program is behind him 100%.

Let me now address the worst thing about this scenario... if or when ND loses ONE game, it will be because Golson was not there to lead the team to victory. It's a fact, so get ready for it.

One last thing... as all can see by my sig, I'm an MZ fan. (I even scooped the media and told MZ's Dad about Golson this morning) But if the roles were reversed where Golson had 3 years left and Malik had 1, I'd have wanted Golson to stay instead. This is more about the potential of the next 3 years more so than the fundamental concepts of ball security, establishing the run and being a prototypical leader at QB. Don't get me wrong, I think MZ will be better at those than EG but to me it's all about the next 3 years which I think can be Holtz era-esque. The Kelly era has been too segmented. QB questions, failures suspensions... early declare-er's, suspension and injuries to too many others. It's lining up now that besides Jalen, ND has a great core group of players who will be together for a while led by 3 years form your starting QB and the deepest OL in the game.

I wish nothing but the best for Everett at his next stop. I applaud him for the graceful way he handled his challenging career at ND. That took REAL balls to own it the way he did and he was rewarded with a piece of paper that will unlock doors for a lifetime. I will be behind him 100% next year as he showcases his skills for NFL scouts and I hope that if it is his dream to play professional football that he succeeds at the highest level possible.

Thanks for the memories Everett there were many great ones and those are the ones we remember down the road.

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If what is in bold was the expectation for EG this year, then he absolutely made the right choice. He is waaay more than a 25% of the snaps a game player.

I'm not happy at all about this. I loved EG... and there is no doubt in my mind that he will put up HUGE numbers, wherever he goes. I just wish it was at ND.

BUT... for some reason, drama just seems to follow EG wherever he goes. I'm just sick of ND winning the NC in drama every single flippen year. Zaire is steady, solid and a good leader. With him behind center, ND will pound the football with their 3 good RB's behind a monster O line.

NO MORE DRAMA!!! NO MORE TO's!!! Pound the ball and play power football. Give me 9-10 wins with defense and a strong running game over shoot-outs and TO's and the promise of 12 wins seasons only to flame out with 8.

Although I love Everette, I think he is part of the early BK recruiting classes where he didnt quite understand what to look for in an ND student athlete. Give me the Winbush-Trumbetti types over the Golson-Lynch types any day of the week.

Not sure how EG and Lynch fall into the same category.

 

[Wild Bill]

That Gator OL is the real question. Hardly any experience at all for them. They may end up being a pretty good unit but right now that is a big question mark. LSU would be EG's best shot at immediate impact. Or maybe with the OBC if Stevie can get by the recruitment issues he had when EG was coming out of HS. Seemed to remember him and EG not getting along very well then.

I trust Bill Cosby alone with my lady more than I trust Les with a QB.

 

[Kingbish01]

can we paste Louis' face on Laurence Fishburne's body from the Matrix? with this?[/QUOTE

lol....I'm pulling for LSU

 

[BobbyMac]

Well, we're not just gonna let this little gem float by.

Do elaborate.

He's a good friend of mine and I talked to him before the guy at the Plain Dealer did.

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[GoldenDomer]

Anyone think this helps QB recruiting? Lots of unproven guys on the depth chart

Edit: Jk, not sure Golson mattered anyway because he wont be here when the 2016's are

 

[T Town Tommy]

I trust Bill Cosby alone with my lady more than I trust Les with a QB.

You make a valid point.

 

[BoredIrish]

Not sure how EG and Lynch fall into the same category.[/QUOTE]

Neither seemed to ever feel at home at ND.

 

[Booslum31]

This is a very dark day IMO. I've always thought he gave us a better chance of winning than Zaire. I thought the combo with Golson starting was the answer. Now we have a run first QB who is one hit away from "Kiser time". Can't blame him a bit...think the staff blew it...big time. I don't give a fvck where he goes...I follow ND football.

 

[Fbolt]

EG probably heard the same speech Tommy Rees did prior to the 2012 season. The writing was most likely on the wall.

I agree with many that I truly thought EG would have grown this off-season and just limited his turnovers. MZ is exciting but very one dimensional. He better hit the swinging tire tonight.

 

[Circa]

This is a very dark day IMO. I've always thought he gave us a better chance of winning than Zaire. I thought the combo with Golson starting was the answer. Now we have a run first QB who is one hit away from "Kiser time". Can't blame him a bit...think the staff blew it...big time. I don't give a fvck where he goes...I follow ND football.

ehhh. Better fill your glass back up. This real shit sucks.

 

[T Town Tommy]

T Town's take:

It is never good when you lose a QB with the type of experience that EG had. Yes he had some ball security issues. But now the Irish are left with a QB that's really only played two games total(?). While I think MZ can get the job done, my concern is that if he runs the ball a lot, he better know how to slide off tackles and big hits. If MZ goes down, the backup situation looks pretty thin.

I hope EG lands in a good spot somewhere and can finish his college career on a high note. He seems like a really good kid. Good luck EG. And good luck to MZ. Ball out.

 

[ThePiombino]

and the beat goes on. If we don't produce on O the D will be the cause?

The O wasn't the problem last year, even with a turnover prone EG at the helm. The young, depleted D was the reason for the mediocre season. Too many weapons on O to expect a step back, even with a "new" QB. If the team doesn't win double-digit games, it will be on the D, not the O.

Mathmatically... yeah that's a true statement but you're right, that's not IW's first hurdle. It's really a 5th year player who's on campus got the 100% guarantee today.

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Absolutely agree.

Neither seemed to ever feel at home at ND.

Stop it. Just...stop. One will have ND an undergrad diploma in hand. The other, a cancer. EG made some bad choices, but it's completely unfair to lump him in the same category as Lynch.

 

[dang227]

None of them have graduated so they would have to sit a year if they transferred.

True. I'm an idiot.

 

[NDgradstudent]

Couldn't this end up being like what happened at OSU this past year, best-case scenario? Why shouldn't a talented QB emerge as a star, provided that he has talent behind him and is well-coached?

 

[ulukinatme]

This is a very dark day IMO. I've always thought he gave us a better chance of winning than Zaire. I thought the combo with Golson starting was the answer. Now we have a run first QB who is one hit away from "Kiser time". Can't blame him a bit...think the staff blew it...big time. I don't give a fvck where he goes...I follow ND football.

Disagree, we can't be sure Golson was going to put together a complete season and free of turnovers in 2015. Despite making it a focus in 2014, and training with his QB guru, Golson came back and was largely the same QB he was when he finished in 2012. I don't think he learns from his mistakes, and it's quite possibly he's never had to deal with losing like the way we finished last season. I don't think he's the leader this team needed. Despite the fact many people were reporting that Golson was killing it in practice he obviously didn't show enough to solidify the job, otherwise he wouldn't be leaving. I think the staff made the right call for the long term. Zaire will get the reps he needs as a starter, no more splitting time, and we can finally go into fall camp without a real QB controversy. Other than probably Crist in Kelly's first year we've essentially had a QB conundrum every year Kelly has been here.

 

[ThePiombino]

Couldn't this end up being like what happened at OSU this past year, best-case scenario? Why shouldn't a talented QB emerge as a star, provided that he has talent behind him and is well-coached?

I'm confident in this offense's potential with Zaire taking snaps, but Kizer is no Cardale.

 

[BobbyMac]

Couldn't this end up being like what happened at OSU this past year, best-case scenario? Why shouldn't a talented QB emerge as a star, provided that he has talent behind him and is well-coached?

I expect MZ to be a lot like Barrett. They should they were rated neck and neck coming out of high school with much of the same skill set. Them play in similar offenses behind good OL play and have good speed at the skill positions.

...Now if we just had a Bosa on the edge...

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[phgreek]

...I would love to be angry about this, but he did everything he was asked to do...play hard, get through adversity, graduate...I can't help but be a little sad at what might have been, and all at once proud of him, and wish him well. And wish him turf toe if ND faces him.... Always Irish to me...good luck EG.