'11 SC QB Everett Golson (FSU transfer)

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Bogtrotter07

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Way too cool! I know some people at Trine. Isn't Dan a great guy? Give him your regards from Toledo if you see him again. In fact, one of my neighbors played two years for him, one for Saban, and one for Pinknell.

Any takers on the trivia question I asked two posts back? If any of our qb's played remotely like him, we would be set!
 

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dshans drools for gruel. or will soon.

Now that you mention it, I don't think I've had a decent bowl of gruel in decades. It's a lost art, I fear. I've had some tasty Moose Drool, though. Then there was some Golson Molden ... oh, wait, that was Molson Golden – scratch that. The latent dyslexia kicks in at inopportune times.

If Golson is Golden, he's my man. If Hendrix can "shred" a defense the way Jimi did a guitar, plug him in. If Kiel can live up to his first name in delivering accurate passes, let him steer the ship. If If Tommy can ... OK, OK, I admit I got nothin' cutsey and trite there.

Ummm, errrr, ahhhh: Go Irish!
 

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Now that you mention it, I don't think I've had a decent bowl of gruel in decades. It's a lost art, I fear. I've had some tasty Moose Drool, though. Then there was some Golson Molden ... oh, wait, that was Molson Golden – scratch that. The latent dyslexia kicks in at inopportune times.

If Golson is Golden, he's my man. If Hendrix can "shred" a defense the way Jimi did a guitar, plug him in. If Kiel can live up to his first name in delivering accurate passes, let him steer the ship. If If Tommy can ... OK, OK, I admit I got nothin' cutsey and trite there.

Ummm, errrr, ahhhh: Go Irish!

If Rees can put the pieces together?

ok... maybe not?
 

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So if Reese pieces it together? Mmmmmm et phone home

That depends, I think, on what plan he has with his cell phone. If he has unlimited data it might be more efficient to just text home.
 

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Way too cool! I know some people at Trine. Isn't Dan a great guy? Give him your regards from Toledo if you see him again. In fact, one of my neighbors played two years for him, one for Saban, and one for Pinknell.

Any takers on the trivia question I asked two posts back? If any of our qb's played remotely like him, we would be set!

Dan is awesome! I will let him know Toledo hasn't forgotten him yet!
 

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I know probably everyone here has seen this once or twice, but i think it is worth reposting

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If Rees can put the pieces together?

ok... maybe not?

It was cute. But he really doesn't need to PUT the pieces together as much as hold on to them a little better. Ball security usually improves with upperclassemen seasons.

He'll never be a running threat but as only a sophomore Rees threw for more yards than all ND QBs in history except for 4 seasons, 2 by Quinn and 2 by Clausen. He also threw for more TDs than any ND QB except for the same 2 seasons by Quinn and 2 by Clausen.

Rees was younger last season than Clausen was when Jimmy stepped on campus yet as a sophomore Clausen, a 5 star "once in a generation QB" not a 3 star kid, threw for only 301 more yds, 5 more TDs, and 1 LESS completion on 29 MORE attempts.

Last year I had no preference in the QB race, conceding the job to no one and hoping the best man won. I remain the same but unlike many here I'll not discount the kid that isn't flashy.
 

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I know probably everyone here has seen this once or twice, but i think it is worth reposting

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Never gets old. Kid has all the skills to make it happen
 

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I hate to be that old, but Jimmy Harris of Oklahoma was 25-0 during his run in 1954-6. I wasn't aware that anyone had surpassed that, but I am no expert on the subject.
 

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It was cute. But he really doesn't need to PUT the pieces together as much as hold on to them a little better. Ball security usually improves with upperclassemen seasons.

He'll never be a running threat but as only a sophomore Rees threw for more yards than all ND QBs in history except for 4 seasons, 2 by Quinn and 2 by Clausen. He also threw for more TDs than any ND QB except for the same 2 seasons by Quinn and 2 by Clausen.

Rees was younger last season than Clausen was when Jimmy stepped on campus yet as a sophomore Clausen, a 5 star "once in a generation QB" not a 3 star kid, threw for only 301 more yds, 5 more TDs, and 1 LESS completion on 29 MORE attempts.

Last year I had no preference in the QB race, conceding the job to no one and hoping the best man won. I remain the same but unlike many here I'll not discount the kid that isn't flashy.

There is no way you can compare Rees and Clausen. Rees last year had a better O-line and running game than Clausen ever had and still struggled. If Clausen had the supporting cast Rees had he may have been a Heisman contender at some point. The stats with Rees don't tell the whole story because he's throwing a lot of screens and short passes in this offense. When you look at the stats it makes him seem better than he really was.
 

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It was cute. But he really doesn't need to PUT the pieces together as much as hold on to them a little better. Ball security usually improves with upperclassemen seasons.

He'll never be a running threat but as only a sophomore Rees threw for more yards than all ND QBs in history except for 4 seasons, 2 by Quinn and 2 by Clausen. He also threw for more TDs than any ND QB except for the same 2 seasons by Quinn and 2 by Clausen.

Rees was younger last season than Clausen was when Jimmy stepped on campus yet as a sophomore Clausen, a 5 star "once in a generation QB" not a 3 star kid, threw for only 301 more yds, 5 more TDs, and 1 LESS completion on 29 MORE attempts.

Last year I had no preference in the QB race, conceding the job to no one and hoping the best man won. I remain the same but unlike many here I'll not discount the kid that isn't flashy.

Beautifully said. I was all for Rees starting last year over Crist, but I'll readily admit that I don't want to see him on the field again. It's the whole shiny new toy syndrome we all get from time to time; in this case it's Golson. But in reality, Tommy did some phenomenal things last year; unfortunately, he regressed instead of progressed, and it took all my confidence in him away. But if he progresses like most athletes do from year to year...well, he could win the starting job and I'll root like hell for him. But man, it's sure as hell be nice if Golson could make a huge step up and win the job. With his wheels, it could open up the offense to a whole new level.

I hate to be that old, but Jimmy Harris of Oklahoma was 25-0 during his run in 1954-6. I wasn't aware that anyone had surpassed that, but I am no expert on the subject.

Your name is Old Man Mike - you've embrace it! (and yet your mind is a helluva lot sharper than most on here - myself definitely included!)
 

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On BGIF's points: they are all true. Tommy was capable of moving the ball with the best of them and we shouldn't forget that. The goodness of a quarterback is his goodness within whatever the system is that he is asked to run. Coach said it again in his presscon: WHEN WE DID NOT HAVE A NEGATIVE PLAY [i.e. fumble, interception, penalty, sack, wrong-headed RB run] we scored over 90% of the time. Despite all the extreme commentary, if Tommy could have avoided the interceptions and at least some of the sacks, we would have had one of the scariest offenses in the country. BUT HE COULDN'T.

So, LA is correct too. Tommy could not avoid certain failures so we are hoping that Everett [or Andrew, or Gunner] can. Everett's great mobility is being raised up as a hope that somehow mobility alone will cease these negative play issues. I hope so, but it does not seem directly related to anything but hopefully fewer sacks. [which was about the least of our troubles given our line and good blitz pick-up by Cierre].

To give us a true upgrade it's all about the turnovers. I've seen nothing yet to assume that Everett or Andrew will be less bad play prone. I HOPE [&hope, &hope, &hope] that they will not be negative play machines. I also hope for no fumbles. One adequate ball management QB with no propensity to take sacks nor throw to the wrong jersey is really all I'm wishing for.

Kelly said that he could manufacture offense. Scoring over 90% of the time when there were no serious negative plays proved that last season.


... and regarding irritating "oldness": I just didn't want to rain too much on Bog's "AFLAC QUIZ" with a bit of ancient history....
 

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#NotreDame QB Everett Golson fumbles two snaps in a row, and Brian Kelly follows him off the field to have, ahem, a word.

Come on EG, do not give him a reason.
 
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I'm guessing Chuck Ealey is who you are referring to?

Correct, 35-0 never lost a game in three seasons. That was it then, three seasons, had he four he would have been 42-0. His sophmore year he beat a William and Mary team coached by Lou Holtz. Lou called him the best ever. African-Americans were not recruited as major college qb's or drafted into the NFL until just after Chuck's time.
 
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On BGIF's points: they are all true. Tommy was capable of moving the ball with the best of them and we shouldn't forget that. The goodness of a quarterback is his goodness within whatever the system is that he is asked to run. Coach said it again in his presscon: WHEN WE DID NOT HAVE A NEGATIVE PLAY [i.e. fumble, interception, penalty, sack, wrong-headed RB run] we scored over 90% of the time. Despite all the extreme commentary, if Tommy could have avoided the interceptions and at least some of the sacks, we would have had one of the scariest offenses in the country. BUT HE COULDN'T.

So, LA is correct too. Tommy could not avoid certain failures so we are hoping that Everett [or Andrew, or Gunner] can. Everett's great mobility is being raised up as a hope that somehow mobility alone will cease these negative play issues. I hope so, but it does not seem directly related to anything but hopefully fewer sacks. [which was about the least of our troubles given our line and good blitz pick-up by Cierre].

To give us a true upgrade it's all about the turnovers. I've seen nothing yet to assume that Everett or Andrew will be less bad play prone. I HOPE [&hope, &hope, &hope] that they will not be negative play machines. I also hope for no fumbles. One adequate ball management QB with no propensity to take sacks nor throw to the wrong jersey is really all I'm wishing for.

Kelly said that he could manufacture offense. Scoring over 90% of the time when there were no serious negative plays proved that last season.


... and regarding irritating "oldness": I just didn't want to rain too much on Bog's "AFLAC QUIZ" with a bit of ancient history....

You never rain on anybody's parade. Good answer and I think there is an old ND qb that had a pretty good run, but I watched Chuck do it in person, and you have never seen anyone be so electric when he needed to, like against 'Nova, a 70 plus yard drive in less than a minute for the win. Phil Villapiano said Chuck was the best, and it was ten years before he could even say "Chuck Ealey"! Villapiano was of course defensive rookie of the year in '71 and made 4 Pro Bowls, and was on a Super Bowl Championship Raiders team. He should know.

Ealey led the Rockets to three Top 20 finishes and three straight Tangerine Bowl victories and he was 35-0, winning the MVP award in each.

In 1971, Ealey's senior season, he was named First Team All-American by Football News, Second Team All-American by United Press International, and Third Team All-American by the Associated Press. He also finished eighth in the voting for the 1971 Heisman Trophy, which was awarded to Pat Sullivan of Auburn. Ealey finished his career as a three-time first team all-conference selection, and a three-time Back of the Year selection in the Mid-American Conference, leading the conference in passing yards in 1970 and 1971. His jersey is one of only four retired jerseys in the history of Toledo football, and was elected to the MAC Hall of Fame as a charter member in 1988.
 
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He's been watching Tommy too long, lol.

Actually, fumbled snaps are Dayne's problem.

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..too soon?
 

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Is it any real surprise Myrtle Beach's Everett Golson looks like he should be Notre Dame's starting QB? #predictable
 

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STARTER, not really even in same league as Rees, Hendrix #2, Rees#3, Kiel-RS
 

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Golson has my vote to be the starter. Get this kid in with the first team from day 1 of camp and let him get comfortable with his guys. Rees has not made any progress/improvements. His pick today was horrible. I've seen Jr's in HS make better decisions than what Rees did today.
 
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