'23 FL DE Keon Keeley (Prodigal Son)

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Freeman in the office:

 

[Irishdrunk]

Well both Minchey and Keeley are big time gets at this point. Two most important positions in football.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

 

[Irishdrunk]

It is interesting that Keon has been uncommitted for so long. I would think almost all decommitments are quickly followed by a commtiment. But this recruiting cycle is unique.

 

[stlnd01]

FWIW, Minchey must have been chatting with the staff the entire time and the recruiting sites had no clue.

Are we sure MF hasnt been speaking with Keely the whole time as well?

That bit about the "congratulatory phone call" after the Clemson game perked up some spidey senses for sure.

I mean, maybe Keeley left Notre Dame high and dry, cut off contact for months, and then just cold calls the Freeman the morning after his big win to say congrats. But that's a pretty, um, self-assured move for an 18-year-old. Unless they've been in touch all along while Keeley sorts some things out.

 

[Piecebypeace]

That bit about the "congratulatory phone call" after the Clemson game perked up some spidey senses for sure.

I mean, maybe Keeley left Notre Dame high and dry, cut off contact for months, and then just cold calls the Freeman the morning after his big win to say congrats. But that's a pretty, um, self-assured move for an 18-year-old. Unless they've been in touch all along while Keeley sorts some things out.

Personally I co-call my ex-girlfriends after I have sex with my wife..

 

[clashmore_mike]

Quick note on another top target

Quick note on another top target

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Loy quoted a source as saying Keely is still very unlikely and expects it to be Alabama.

 

[Free Manera]

Quick note on another top target

Quick note on another top target

247sports.com

Loy quoted a source as saying Keely is still very unlikely and expects it to be Alabama.

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[condoms SUCk]

Probably pretty close to a #1 class. Would be the best class at ND in the post-Holtz era probably.

on the 247 class calculator if you add KK, Kenny Minchey and Kahlil Barnes ND would be at 297.72...good enough for #2 (Bama currently at 310.01).

 

[Irishdrunk]

I wonder...if Freeman secures his QB in Minchey...is that enough of a story line to retry closing Keon??

 

[PolishDomer]

I wonder...if Freeman secures his QB in Minchey...is that enough of a story line to retry closing Keon??

If KK was a WR then yes...otherwise not seeing the logic here.

 

[FOTY977]

If KK was a WR then yes...otherwise not seeing the logic here.

Unless the pitch is that they have all of the pieces now, and the old Holtz message along the lines of "Are you coming to come win a national championship or be watching us on TV at home?"

 

[NDdomer2]

Not saying we have a good shot if Minchey joins but the biggest thing that has been holding us back from being a championship contender is quality QB. KK is the type of recruit that wants to win a championship so there is logic there.

umm i guess. but i dont recall any part of his decommitment related to lack of QB.

It was lack of funds.

People need to move the fuck on.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

I wonder...if Freeman secures his QB in Minchey...is that enough of a story line to retry closing Keon??

umm i guess. but i dont recall any part of his decommitment related to lack of QB.

It was lack of funds.

People need to move the fuck on.

Agreed. Pretty big stretch. "Hey, we still don't have a large bag of cash and we haven't won a natty since '88, but we just signed a fringe top 247 QB. How's it going nowadays?"

 

[Dale]

Every time I see the hopeful bump

 

[Blazers46]

It is interesting that Keon has been uncommitted for so long. I would think almost all decommitments are quickly followed by a commtiment. But this recruiting cycle is unique.

Maybe not unique but maybe the new normal.

 

[Panda]

Agreed. Pretty big stretch. "Hey, we still don't have a large bag of cash and we haven't won a natty since '88, but we just signed a fringe top 247 QB. How's it going nowadays?

Agreed

 

[Kingbish01]

If KK was a WR then yes...otherwise not seeing the logic here.

Same reason Bama commit Richard Young has been all over KK, sure he's not a WR but wants to win. I'm sure KK doesn't want to bust his ass all game and only see his team score 10 points...If he does feel like that, than he will probably end up at Iowa.

 

[NDdomer2]

I wonder...if Freeman secures his QB in Minchey...is that enough of a story line to retry closing Keon??

Agreed

are you sure?

 

[Irishdrunk]

Agreed. Pretty big stretch. "Hey, we still don't have a large bag of cash and we haven't won a natty since '88, but we just signed a fringe top 247 QB. How's it going nowadays?"

You are obviously a great recruiter. Thanks for clarifying.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Agreed. Pretty big stretch. "Hey, we still don't have a large bag of cash and we haven't won a natty since '88, but we just signed a fringe top 247 QB. How's it going nowadays?"

We have the cash. We just can't give it to him in exchange for his signature. He has to get on campus first, do a photo shoot with a worthy cause in South Bend, and then he gets the bag.

 

[Irishdrunk]

We have the cash. We just can't give it to him in exchange for his signature. He has to get on campus first, do a photo shoot with a worthy cause in South Bend, and then he gets the bag.

Then it would depend on how big the bag is on a risk-adjusted basis. I can't wait to hear about all the NIL deals and gossip someday. The next few seasons could be very interesting.

 

[ThePiombino]

We have the cash. We just can't give it to him in exchange for his signature. He has to get on campus first, do a photo shoot with a worthy cause in South Bend, and then he gets the bag.

Can this be in writing? If so, I don't see the big deal unless kids need the money yesterday vs. day 1 on campus.

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[stlnd01]

Can this be in writing? If so, I don't see the big deal unless kids need the money yesterday vs. day 1 on campus.

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I think some kids, or their uncles, want the money in hand, yesterday. And so they prioritize the school that will provide that. I understand why, but personally I think that's a mistake.

 

[ACamp1900]

I think some kids, or their uncles, want the money in hand, yesterday. And so they prioritize the school that will provide that. I understand why, but personally I think that's a mistake.

Especially given the family background,… idk what’s KK’s is at all but many have the mindset that 50 bucks today is better than 200 bucks by next week. Which is exactly why they need the 50 so badly.

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

Especially given the family background,… idk what’s KK’s is at all but many have the mindset that 50 bucks today is better than 200 bucks by next week. Which is exactly why they need the 50 so badly.

That's not really rare, and is actually basically the default. Its called the scarcity mindset. There is some interesting research on it and its effects.

 

[NDFAN420]

I think some kids, or their uncles, want the money in hand, yesterday. And so they prioritize the school that will provide that. I understand why, but personally I think that's a mistake.

Almost every business in the world takes money in hand yesterday over tomorrow. It's good business. Money today is worth much, much, much more than money tomorrow? or some later date and that's not even taking inflation into account.

 

[ACamp1900]

That's not really rare, and is actually basically the default. Its called the scarcity mindset. There is some interesting research on it and its effects.

Yes, I cover that and poverty mindsets every now and then at work. I can see some extended family making this whole NiL situation really complex for some kids,…

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Almost every business in the world takes money in hand yesterday over tomorrow. It's good business. Money today is worth much, much, much more than money tomorrow? or some later date and that's not even taking inflation into account.

Inflation is only a problem in America, as I understand it. I am assuming the parts it isn't touching include the SEC, USC and Texas.

Meanwhile at SMU, NIL means getting a coupon for a 99 cent Frosty at Wendy's.

 

[ACamp1900]

… at SMU, NIL means getting a coupon for a 99 cent Frosty at Wendy's.

Imagine how many frostys all that oil money gets a kid tho,…. Playing big boy games in Dallas