'16 MI OLB Daelin Hayes (Notre Dame Early Enrollee)

[Booslum31]

Was anyone else bothered by the fact that the backdrop was upside down?

Ah...didn't notice until you pointed it out.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Was anyone else bothered by the fact that the backdrop was upside down?

I thought he was simply standing on his head the whole time!

 

[Ironman8]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The paperwork is in and it's official.

Welcome to Notre Dame Daelin and Khalid! <a href="https://t.co/rv5RsD0Aki">pic.twitter.com/rv5RsD0Aki</a></p>— Notre Dame Football (@NDFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball/status/676106064014786560">December 13, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[arrowryan]

Finals week is this week for Notre Dame so they will be on campus as students in about a month. January 12 to be exact

 

[Cackalacky]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The paperwork is in and it's official.

Welcome to Notre Dame Daelin and Khalid! <a href="https://t.co/rv5RsD0Aki">pic.twitter.com/rv5RsD0Aki</a></p>— Notre Dame Football (@NDFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball/status/676106064014786560">December 13, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

nice. Do we have any other EE spots available?

 

[Ironman8]

nice. Do we have any other EE spots available?

Stepherson and Studtill are definites.

Believe Perry and Jones are trying as well. Don't know how likely they are though.

 

[Cackalacky]

Stepherson and Studtill are definites.

Believe Perry and Jones are trying as well. Don't know how likely they are though.

That is fantastic.

 

[NDdomer2]

I really like the sound of Perry, Studsill, Hayes, and Kareem all being EE's.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

If really like the sound of Perry, Studsill, Hayes, and Kareem all being EE's.

Agreed and just posted as much. Most important positions where we need more competition, in order: safety, DE, LB

 

[ResLife Hero]

https://notredame.n.rivals.com/news/five-prospects-enroll-early-at-notre-dame-for-spring-semester

Hayes: "Hayes has excellent size and natural power, although his frame could stand to be reshaped a bit moving forward. Once that happens, Hayes will only become more explosive from a power and athleticism standpoint. Athletically, Hayes possesses an explosive first step that allows him to fly downhill. He stays light on his feet, has smooth hips and is able to redirect with ease. His in-the-box power and speed projects well for the inside positions, his range and athleticism makes him a perfect fit outside and his power-speed combination could easily project at defensive end."

 

[PANDFAN]

loy spoke w/ hayes--back up to 250 and his shoulder is progressing great..said he looked good physically

 

[greyhammer90]

loy spoke w/ hayes--back up to 250 and his shoulder is progressing great

Hope he doesn't get too obsessed with regaining weight. Freshmen frequently take that too far.

 

[OCIrish]

Hope he doesn't get too obsessed with regaining weight. Freshmen frequently take that too far.

The beauty of this, however, is he's now in the programs strength and conditioning program......they can better monitor his weight progression, and make adjustments

 

[greyhammer90]

The beauty of this, however, is he's now in the programs strength and conditioning program......they can better monitor his weight progression, and make adjustments

Oh yeah I forgot he's an EE. Concern tabled.

 

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

The beauty of this, however, is he's now in the programs strength and conditioning program......they can better monitor his weight progression, and make adjustments

Besides jaylon what d front player has been where they really should be. O n don't waste years trying to make him a big stiff lb like ishaq. Either lose the bulk or be a de from day 1, and not a fat de just to be a de.

 

[OCIrish]

That's part of getting kids in early so they can not only go through spring drills, but to also get their bodies started going in the direction they need to play

 

[IrishFanJMercy]

My question is does he play LB or DE?

 

[ryno 24]

The Trumbetti Role likely. A DE but also can stand up?

 

[phgreek]

I'm stoked these guys are in the door...especially this one. Defense needs the defensive guys that came as EEs...and they needed to get started with the BVG education.

 

[BobbyMac]

My question is does he play LB or DE?

Hopefully he has that rare ability to be a 4-3 OLB at his size and remain there unless he is just too valuable as a DE. We've had this discussion before and guys are quick to point out guys in the NFL who are his size and bigger plying his position but they also forget, he was this size going into his senior year of high school.

I'll reserve judgement until we see him open fall camp because Daelin's body is about to go through something it hasn't been through before. He's going to train and eat better than he ever this semester and into the summer. At some point he'll gets some rest before fall workouts begin. I want to see how he comes back after his body has some down time. That will be telling.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

The beauty of this, however, is he's now in the programs strength and conditioning program......they can better monitor his weight progression, and make adjustments

Yep and work with Longo and get an injury because of Longo within the next 12 months. Lol


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[Domina Nostra]

Yep and work with Longo and get an injury because of Longo within the next 12 months. Lol


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Or visit the pharmacist and magically never get injured.

 

[Big23Head]

Scout 4 and #240 overall

 

[Luckylucci]

With everything considered, I think this is more accurate than Rivals but I'll take the 5 star status, it looks nice

 

[TomHaverford]

With everything considered, I think this is more accurate than Rivals but I'll take the 5 star status, it looks nice

To me there is very little difference between a 5* and a 4* top 300 kid. Like really, how do you rank 300 kids and slot them 1-300. It's damn near impossible.

I don't think there are 30+ 5* kids every year. To me a 5* should be reserved to the elite elite few. And honestly, every cycle there are only a very small handful of kids like that. Some cycles there might be 5, others 10, others 20.

When I look at this recruiting cycle, there's Rashan Gary, Mique Juarez, Isaac Nauta, Dexter Lawrence, Greg Little, Shea Patterson, and then a pretty big gap between everybody else.

 

[GBdomer]

To me there is very little difference between a 5* and a 4* top 300 kid. Like really, how do you rank 300 kids and slot them 1-300. It's damn near impossible.

I don't think there are 30+ 5* kids every year. To me a 5* should be reserved to the elite elite few. And honestly, every cycle there are only a very small handful of kids like that. Some cycles there might be 5, others 10, others 20.

When I look at this recruiting cycle, there's Rashan Gary, Mique Juarez, Isaac Nauta, Dexter Lawrence, Greg Little, Shea Patterson, and then a pretty big gap between everybody else.

I agree with you, besides Nauta. Guy is a poors man Nick O'leary and had like 88 receiving yards this year

 

[dwshade]

To me there is very little difference between a 5* and a 4* top 300 kid. Like really, how do you rank 300 kids and slot them 1-300. It's damn near impossible.

I don't think there are 30+ 5* kids every year. To me a 5* should be reserved to the elite elite few. And honestly, every cycle there are only a very small handful of kids like that. Some cycles there might be 5, others 10, others 20.

When I look at this recruiting cycle, there's Rashan Gary, Mique Juarez, Isaac Nauta, Dexter Lawrence, Greg Little, Shea Patterson, and then a pretty big gap between everybody else.

Considering there are approximately 3,000 kids signing each year with FBS schools the top 30 would represent roughly the top 1%. 30 five stars doesn't sound excessive to me.

 

[Andy in Sactown]

Considering there are approximately 3,000 kids signing each year with FBS schools the top 30 would represent roughly the top 1%. 30 five stars doesn't sound excessive to me.

I get the 1% thing, but [yoda]top 1% does not a 5-star make[/yoda].

The 5-stars aren't distributed across the whole 3,000 going to the 125 FBS Teams. It's a metric for the top end of the spectrum. Completely arbitrary, but you could say, limit it to a percentage of top 50, 100, 247, whatever.

Doesn't help every service seems to quantify what makes a 5-star differently.

I tend to think of it in rather amorphous terms; if they look like they're "too good to be a 4-star", that's a fiver. Maybe it's overcast outside and I decide it's who I think could be a future first round pick. It's no different than sum of the services rankings.

So since it's all relative, I'll just say I don't think there should be 30. If I look at #1 and #30, am I going to go away scratching my head as to why they have the same rating? Likely, hell yes. Unlikely, plausible at best. This year, I could see 13-15.

TL;DR Napkin math says the number of fivers should be cut in half, imo.

 

[NDinL.A.]

Considering there are approximately 3,000 kids signing each year with FBS schools the top 30 would represent roughly the top 1%. 30 five stars doesn't sound excessive to me.

Now cut that number by at least two-thirds, unless you want to count schools Tulane and North Texas et al. That makes the percentage of top players playing big-time football a ton smaller, and your percentage a lot bigger.

I don't think Hayes has earned his rating in pads, but like Lucci said, I'll take it.

 

[woolybug25]

Now cut that number by at least two-thirds, unless you want to count schools Tulane and North Texas et al. That makes the percentage of top players playing big-time football a ton smaller, and your percentage a lot bigger.

I don't think Hayes has earned his rating in pads, but like Lucci said, I'll take it.

Question... and i'm not trying to be a devil's advocate here... but why would you not count kids that go to lower schools? Talented kids go to small schools all of the time. Randy Moss, Deontay Greenberry, etc. Hell... there are tons of kids that end up on NFL rosters that don't even get rated coming out of high school like Ben Rothlisberger and Antonio Brown.

I guess I don't get why a 3 star going to Tulane or a 4 star going to Western Michigan should be taken out of the recruit pool. Especially when they were evaluated like the rest of them?