Kiffin Kiffining Again?

[FightingIrishLover7]

http://deadspin.com/lane-kiffin-got...source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Looks like it was an accident unfortunately. How great it would have been for him to be ditched after winning a national championship. Lol.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I was thinking about this last night...

Do we, as Notre Dame fans, officially dislike Kiffin anymore? Can't see why we should. He drove Troy straight into the ground, and for that he deserves our gratitude.

 

[ulukinatme]

I was thinking about this last night...

Do we, as Notre Dame fans, officially dislike Kiffin anymore? Can't see why we should. He drove Troy straight into the ground, and for that he deserves our gratitude.

I never disliked Kiffin. I always hoped he would stay at USC for as long as possible, because he was awful for them. I'll always think fondly of his time at Troy...just wish we would have gotten more than 1 win against Carroll during his time there.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

http://deadspin.com/lane-kiffin-got...source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Looks like it was an accident unfortunately. How great it would have been for him to be ditched after winning a national championship. Lol.

First comment is epic:

 

[drayer54]

I've never met a Tennessee fan that wouldn't charge their Iphone with his life support.

 

[Bishop2b5]

I've never met a Tennessee fan that wouldn't charge their Iphone with his life support.

When Saban hired Kiffin, I couldn't help but wonder if this would be the disaster that destroyed our program. The guy had been an immature, obnoxious jerk everywhere he'd been and left a trail of disappointment and chaos behind him. The only thing that kept me from being certain this would be a disaster was the belief that Saban saw something in him that the rest of us didn't, and that he could turn him around and control him. If figured if anyone could, it would be Saban.

In the two years since, I've been surprised and happy with Kiffin beyond anything I could've hoped for. He's matured dramatically and turned into one of the best assistant coaches in the country. He's done a great job of shaping his offense to the players he has and getting the most out of them. By all accounts the players love him and there haven't been any typical Lane moments from him as in the past. I'll give credit where it's due. I didn't like the hire two years ago, but it's been one of Saban's best moves and Kiffin's turned his career around and impressed the heck out of me.

 

[IrishLion]

You all better hope Lane moves on before Joey Freshwater finally goes off the rails and gets him in trouble lol.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

You all better hope Lane moves on before Joey Freshwater finally goes off the rails and gets him in trouble lol.

Rumor has it he finally got out of the stadium in a helicopter piloted by some guy named "Billy Vegas," and they were on their way to Atlantic City.

 

[ulukinatme]

When Saban hired Kiffin, I couldn't help but wonder if this would be the disaster that destroyed our program. The guy had been an immature, obnoxious jerk everywhere he'd been and left a trail of disappointment and chaos behind him. The only thing that kept me from being certain this would be a disaster was the belief that Saban saw something in him that the rest of us didn't, and that he could turn him around and control him. If figured if anyone could, it would be Saban.

In the two years since, I've been surprised and happy with Kiffin beyond anything I could've hoped for. He's matured dramatically and turned into one of the best assistant coaches in the country. He's done a great job of shaping his offense to the players he has and getting the most out of them. By all accounts the players love him and there haven't been any typical Lane moments from him as in the past. I'll give credit where it's due. I didn't like the hire two years ago, but it's been one of Saban's best moves and Kiffin's turned his career around and impressed the heck out of me.

If Kiffin is smart he stays OC at Alabama as long as he can and milks everything he can out of that job. Basically make a name for himself as the best OC in the game and parlay that into whatever contract he can get. If Saban retires, he tries to get into a new program as OC, one that is similarly stacked with talent. His head coaching stops have all been failures, but I don't think there's a question at this point whether he's a good OC or not...at least when he has lots of talent to work with.

 

[irishfanjho15]

Its easy to look good when every time you need something you call a TE slip and Clemson completely disregards the TE. Every time.

 

[Irish#1]

When Saban hired Kiffin, I couldn't help but wonder if this would be the disaster that destroyed our program. The guy had been an immature, obnoxious jerk everywhere he'd been and left a trail of disappointment and chaos behind him. The only thing that kept me from being certain this would be a disaster was the belief that Saban saw something in him that the rest of us didn't, and that he could turn him around and control him. If figured if anyone could, it would be Saban.

In the two years since, I've been surprised and happy with Kiffin beyond anything I could've hoped for. He's matured dramatically and turned into one of the best assistant coaches in the country. He's done a great job of shaping his offense to the players he has and getting the most out of them. By all accounts the players love him and there haven't been any typical Lane moments from him as in the past. I'll give credit where it's due. I didn't like the hire two years ago, but it's been one of Saban's best moves and Kiffin's turned his career around and impressed the heck out of me.

I think what you have is a guy that was immature and doesn't or didn't understand what a HC position is all about and didn't care about anyone but himself regardless of the situation. Under Saban, he's under control and doesn't have the leeway to do what he pleases.

I'm still not sold on his OC skills. If I remember correctly, I thought there was something mentioned a couple of years ago on Bama struggling with his offense and Saban had him dial it down? Bama had a lot of 3rd and longs against Clemson and ran it on third down. That's Saban playing it safe rather than taking the chance on an int, sack or sack strip.

 

[Ndaccountant]

When Saban hired Kiffin, I couldn't help but wonder if this would be the disaster that destroyed our program. The guy had been an immature, obnoxious jerk everywhere he'd been and left a trail of disappointment and chaos behind him. The only thing that kept me from being certain this would be a disaster was the belief that Saban saw something in him that the rest of us didn't, and that he could turn him around and control him. If figured if anyone could, it would be Saban.

In the two years since, I've been surprised and happy with Kiffin beyond anything I could've hoped for. He's matured dramatically and turned into one of the best assistant coaches in the country. He's done a great job of shaping his offense to the players he has and getting the most out of them. By all accounts the players love him and there haven't been any typical Lane moments from him as in the past. I'll give credit where it's due. I didn't like the hire two years ago, but it's been one of Saban's best moves and Kiffin's turned his career around and impressed the heck out of me.

Hard for a tiger to change his stripes. Color me skeptical until he shows the same demeanor once he is out of Saban's control. I personally think this has everything to do with Nick and not Lane.

 

[Domina Nostra]

Hard for a tiger to change his stripes. Color me skeptical until he shows the same demeanor once he is out of Saban's control. I personally think this has everything to do with Nick and not Lane.

Example 100,432 that the "scoreboard" is the only thing that matters in college football. If you win, you're a genius, if you lose you're an idiot.

Kiffin coaches the team with by far the most talent, wins a championship with one of the all-tem greatest coaches who had already won 4, and we call it redemption.

IMO, Kiffin has proven at USC and Alabama that, given a roster full of 5-stars, he can generally handle himself. He's obviously smart enough that great coaches respect his opinion. Yay!

 

[T Town Tommy]

Saban's involvement in the offense and offensive game planning is fairly hands off. If he has taught Wonder Boy anything it is simply that it is ok to take the layup sometimes even if the three is open. Kiffin is one of the best OC's I have seen that can take the tendencies of a defense and use it against them. With all that said, as far as him becoming the HC at a major college program.... that's like giving the keys to the Porsche to your 16 year old son. Good luck with that.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Saban's involvement in the offense and offensive game planning is fairly hands off. If he has taught Wonder Boy anything it is simply that it is ok to take the layup sometimes even if the three is open. Kiffin is one of the best OC's I have seen that can take the tendencies of a defense and use it against them. With all that said, as far as him becoming the HC at a major college program.... that's like giving the keys to the Porsche to your 16 year old son. Good luck with that.

Saban may be hands off, but the atmosphere and professionalism is what I am referring to. Lane has proven across time that he can coach an offense when he has the talent. I don't think anyone would dispute that. However, the notion that he has "matured" and is now "different" than his stops in Knoxville and LA is, IMO, attributable to Saban's presence and not Lane magically changing. The key is whether or not that holds when Lane moves on from Nicky.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Saban may be hands off, but the atmosphere and professionalism is what I am referring to. Lane has proven across time that he can coach an offense when he has the talent. I don't think anyone would dispute that. However, the notion that he has "matured" and is now "different" than his stops in Knoxville and LA is, IMO, attributable to Saban's presence and not Lane magically changing. The key is whether or not that holds when Lane moves on from Nicky.

Don't disagree. There are only 2-3 times a year that Saban let's his coaches even speak to the media, and the last time Kiffin did he missed the bus. I do think people mature and grow, and he can take Saban's approach to the job and learn from it - even the plane ride home from Arizona Saban was breaking down the game film and prioritizing his schedule for Tuesday for recruiting purposes - but once Kiffin strikes out on his own as a HC somewhere there sure are no guarantees that he applies any of those things.

 

[ulukinatme]

I think any big time program will be hard pressed to take a chance on Lane again as a HC. My guess is he'll have to take a middle tier job first, or a Power 5 team that's hard on it's luck. That will be the real test, to see what he can do with less than exceptional talent. At USC and Alabama he was able to be successful with the best players available to anyone (As an OC anyway). He won't really prove his worth till he can show he can win with 3 star talent.

 

[kmoose]

He won't really prove his worth till he can show he can win with 3 star talent.

I think that question has already been answered?

5-15 with the Raiders.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

I think any big time program will be hard pressed to take a chance on Lane again as a HC. My guess is he'll have to take a middle tier job first, or a Power 5 team that's hard on it's luck. That will be the real test, to see what he can do with less than exceptional talent. At USC and Alabama he was able to be successful with the best players available to anyone (As an OC anyway). He won't really prove his worth till he can show he can win with 3 star talent.

As a Purdue alum, they'd be lucky to have him...

 

[PANDFAN]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ESPN's McMurphy: Kiffin Was Offered UCLA OC Job Before NC Game <a href="https://t.co/635H8i2ECu">https://t.co/635H8i2ECu</a> <a href="https://t.co/u5KbEmCtGa">pic.twitter.com/u5KbEmCtGa</a></p>— Bruins Nation (@BruinNation) <a href="https://twitter.com/BruinNation/status/687722822991495169">January 14, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[TheOneWhoKnocks]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ESPN's McMurphy: Kiffin Was Offered UCLA OC Job Before NC Game <a href="https://t.co/635H8i2ECu">https://t.co/635H8i2ECu</a> <a href="https://t.co/u5KbEmCtGa">pic.twitter.com/u5KbEmCtGa</a></p>— Bruins Nation (@BruinNation) <a href="https://twitter.com/BruinNation/status/687722822991495169">January 14, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Why would he even consider such a thing? I mean I guess he could think I could take over for Mora or something. The offer doesn't make sense to me

 

[Irish#1]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ESPN's McMurphy: Kiffin Was Offered UCLA OC Job Before NC Game <a href="https://t.co/635H8i2ECu">https://t.co/635H8i2ECu</a> <a href="https://t.co/u5KbEmCtGa">pic.twitter.com/u5KbEmCtGa</a></p>— Bruins Nation (@BruinNation) <a href="https://twitter.com/BruinNation/status/687722822991495169">January 14, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Kiffin working for Mora? There's got to be a joke in there somewhere.

 

[NDinL.A.]

Why would he even consider such a thing? I mean I guess he could think I could take over for Mora or something. The offer doesn't make sense to me

The balls that Mora has....holy crap.

"Hey Kiffy, why don't you leave the best situation known to man, where you have nothing but 4 and 5 star talent and will always be a winner and get to learn from perhaps the greatest coach of this generation where you get to design the offense and call the plays at a school that just dies for football and gives you and your players EVERYTHING you need to be successful, a place that completely changed the perception of you and your career, and come take a lateral position at a basketball school with crappy facilities and a football field so far away it might as well be in South Bend, for a fanbase that is apathetic at best and for a coach who might leave for the NFL every year. Oh, for probably less money. When can you sign?"

Unbelievable.

 

[BGIF]

I think any big time program will be hard pressed to take a chance on Lane again as a HC. My guess is he'll have to take a middle tier job first, or a Power 5 team that's hard on it's luck. That will be the real test, to see what he can do with less than exceptional talent. At USC and Alabama he was able to be successful with the best players available to anyone (As an OC anyway). He won't really prove his worth till he can show he can win with 3 star talent.

I thought that was the reason for him taking the Tennessee job. In the 8 years since the Vols under Fulmer had a 10 win season they gone 49-51, or 6.1-6.4 W/L per season. He actually was a tad better than than 6.1-6.4 with a 7-6 record.

 

[Irish YJ]

Kiffin working for Mora? There's got to be a joke in there somewhere.

Dick and Dicker

 

[Bishop2b5]

The balls that Mora has....holy crap.

"Hey Kiffy, why don't you leave the best situation known to man, where you have nothing but 4 and 5 star talent and will always be a winner and get to learn from perhaps the greatest coach of this generation where you get to design the offense and call the plays at a school that just dies for football and gives you and your players EVERYTHING you need to be successful, a place that completely changed the perception of you and your career, and come take a lateral position at a basketball school with crappy facilities and a football field so far away it might as well be in South Bend, for a fanbase that is apathetic at best and for a coach who might leave for the NFL every year. Oh, for probably less money. When can you sign?"

Unbelievable.

Yeah, I pretty much had the same thoughts when I heard about UCLA trying to hire him. Can't blame Mora for trying, but seriously???

 

[ThePiombino]

The balls that Mora has....holy crap.

"Hey Kiffy, why don't you leave the best situation known to man, where you have nothing but 4 and 5 star talent and will always be a winner and get to learn from perhaps the greatest coach of this generation where you get to design the offense and call the plays at a school that just dies for football and gives you and your players EVERYTHING you need to be successful, a place that completely changed the perception of you and your career, and come take a lateral position at a basketball school with crappy facilities and a football field so far away it might as well be in South Bend, for a fanbase that is apathetic at best and for a coach who might leave for the NFL every year. Oh, for probably less money. When can you sign?"

Unbelievable.

I agree with the sentiment of your post, but I think it would be more of an indictment on Kiffin if he accepted than Mora for offering. I mean, hey, doesn't hurt to ask, right? Those of us who married up know the deal lol. Would be a total clown move for Kiffin tho, unless he saw a clear and easy path to a P5 HC gig with the move to UCLA.

 

[IrishLax]

Layla finally leaving Joey Freshwater.

 

[BeauBenken]

Layla finally leaving Joey Freshwater.

She's finally back on the market. God bless this world.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Kiffin decided to troll Vol Nation on Twitter. Evidently he thought better of it and deleted the offending tweet. Classic Kiffin. LOL
Lane Kiffin finds another way to anger Tennessee fans

On Monday, Kiffin tweeted:

Tennessee loaded with top-level recruits -- but they're leaving the state "https://t.co/gSTNhKtftJ" ]https://t.co/gSTNhKtftJ[]

— Lane Kiffin (@Lane_Kiffin) August 1, 2016