'16 FL RB Tony Jones Jr. (Notre Dame Signed NLI)

[Bogtrotter07]

It seems silly to drop him, given the circumstances, but it's not like it has any impact on him as an on-field player. I'm sure he'll be whatever he's destined to be, regardless of what he drops or is elevated to in the rankings.

But so much of college recruiting is based upon the big four services. And if that whole evaluation process is based upon the hypocrisy (and I believe it is) of performing for a particular service, by attending, and therefore hyping a particular services event, then that is bull shiit.

A perfect recruiting system would be an evaluation of a player versus others at his position for a school based upon what that school runs, and needs, and their depth chart.

So what is all this cultish adoration for certain recruits?

Another way of looking at it, is ND has outpaced every other school in the nation for it's offensive line recruits in the last six years. If the three they have recruited this year work out, and if Chase and Tony work out, then Parker, Tony, and Chase having three star ratings by one service, in particular calls those ratings into doubt.

 

[Old Man Mike]

All I really care about is that the staff gets these players into uniform, regardless of how many stars they have on their media sheets. The idea that ND will defeat teams with higher alleged "star-power" in their recruits can only do us good. Why? because it will ultimately circulate that Coach and the staff do better than the other coaching staffs. In the end this will help recruiting not hurt.

Now, "just win, baby."

 

[TheTurningPoint]

You can ask anyone who knows me well...I really dont pay attention to stars or rankings. But, it's just drives me crazy how much 247 and every other site built up and talked highly of Jones performing at The Opening, then they dropped him because of a camp, when in the explanation of dropping him they stated he was better in pads than in a camp setting. I mean, cmon lol.

 

[JD Irish]

I can't believe how mad people are getting over this. He looks like a three star player to me.

 

[Irish#1]

All I really care about is that the staff gets these players into uniform, regardless of how many stars they have on their media sheets. The idea that ND will defeat teams with higher alleged "star-power" in their recruits can only do us good. Why? because it will ultimately circulate that Coach and the staff do better than the other coaching staffs. In the end this will help recruiting not hurt.

Now, "just win, baby."

This

 

[BeauBenken]

I can't believe how mad people are getting over this. He looks like a three star player to me.

Well that's because you're stupid. And wrong.

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[NDdomer2]

Well that's because you're stupid. And wrong.

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man times have changed. i once got an infraction from a mod for insulting other members.

 

[BeauBenken]

man times have changed. i once got an infraction from a mod for insulting other members.

I'm unbannable. I'm too essential to the site. That's why they pay me the big bucks.

Italics are for the weak.

 

[Irish YJ]

Well that's because you're stupid. And wrong.

Time will tell, but I'm not pushing all in on this young man either. I'll be happy if he becomes a serviceable power back. The thing that keeps me from laying down my bet is the fact that he's playing on a team with loads of talent surrounding him, including a fantastic line. He will have that at ND, but not sure he'll rise over the other RBs we have. I'd love to see him be that guy he bowls over people for 3-5 yards in 3rd and 1, and catches a couple quick shots over the top.

Hope he plays with a huge chip on his shoulder this year and proves the services wrong.

 

[NDdomer2]

I'm unbannable. I'm too essential to the site. That's why they pay me the big bucks.

Italics are for the weak.

man everyone taking everything so personal around here like a bunch of bitch asses....

 

[Irish YJ]

man everyone taking everything so personal around here like a bunch of bitch asses....

the cult of offended grows strong

 

[Irish#1]

man everyone taking everything so personal around here like a bunch of bitch asses....

I thought we were.

 

[NDdomer2]

I thought we were.

My HS bball coach always told me I was better when I didn't think. Might apply to you too!

 

[ResLife Hero]

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The grab at :57 is really nice.

 

[dublinirish]

what is Tony's home town? I am presuming he's not a Floridian by the fact he's @ IMG

 

[ulukinatme]

I can't believe how mad people are getting over this. He looks like a three star player to me.

It seems to have less to do with whether or not he belongs as a 3 star, and more to do with the reason(s) why they dropped him down to a 3 star.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Stars are like bars... some overrated, some underrated and you just don't really know until you see what's inside of them. The Irish coaching staff seen enough of this young man to offer him a scholly at a position of need. That should be good enough for now.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

You can ask anyone who knows me well...I really dont pay attention to stars or rankings. But, it's just drives me crazy how much 247 and every other site built up and talked highly of Jones performing at The Opening, then they dropped him because of a camp, when in the explanation of dropping him they stated he was better in pads than in a camp setting. I mean, cmon lol.

That was clear in your article. But remember, you get 'hits' from quality information.

Some of these services are so driven for 'hits' that they are more than willing to mire themselves in the drama and controversy you so clearly point out!

 

[BGIF]

what is Tony's home town? I am presuming he's not a Floridian by the fact he's @ IMG

Tampa Bay Area, he played for St Petersburg Catholic last year.



IMG has a bunch of players from FL. Many HS coaches will not schedule IMG nor camp there because they claim IMG recruits their best players.

 

[IrishEyesAreSmiling]

Am I the only that feels like once a recruit commits to ND they drop in any ranking whether it be 247, espn, rivals or scout

 

[dublinirish]

Tampa Bay Area, he played for St Petersburg Catholic last year.



IMG has a bunch of players from FL. Many HS coaches will not schedule IMG nor camp there because they claim IMG recruits their best players.

Cheers and apologies for my laziness, i thought IMG had said they wouldnt accept FL kids for football?

 

[PANDFAN]

Am I the only that feels like once a recruit commits to ND they drop in any ranking whether it be 247, espn, rivals or scout

this has been brought up countless times by people here, other boards etc...and then a bunch of people say it isn't happening...then it will die down...then someone else will post it...vicious cycle

you will often see the italics response of will drop now that he is committed to ND

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Am I the only that feels like once a recruit commits to ND they drop in any ranking whether it be 247, espn, rivals or scout

If this is true, I wonder what Brock Wright would've been rated before he gave his pledge to ND?

 

[longliveautrydenson]

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The grab at :57 is really nice.

Not really concerned whether TJ is ranked as a 3 or 4 star. This highlight clip shows he has the makings of a fantastic third down back. He's already got great hands to catch check downs and wheel routes, and with his body type he should be excellent in pass pro.

We don't need every back to be a home run hitter. If he turns into an effective Kevin Faulk-type back, I'd be ecstatic.

 

[ulukinatme]

this has been brought up countless times by people here, other boards etc...and then a bunch of people say it isn't happening...then it will die down...then someone else will post it...vicious cycle

you will often see the italics response of will drop now that he is committed to ND

It's funny when you go to other football boards and they say the opposite:
"He's only a four star cause he committed to ND."
No joke.

 

[phork]

Am I the only that feels like once a recruit commits to ND they drop in any ranking whether it be 247, espn, rivals or scout

Rival fan bases tend to think that an ND Commit usually gets a bump. All about perspective I guess.

 

[PANDFAN]

3 Reasons Why 2016 Commit Tony Jones Will Be Superstar for Notre Dame | Bleacher Report

 

[Blaise]

To me, Michigan State have recruited mostly 3 stars yet have had players drafted in first round year after year. Trust your coaching staff knows more than these "Pay sites"

 

[dublinirish]

To me, Michigan State have recruited mostly 3 stars yet have had players drafted in first round year after year. Trust your coaching staff knows more than these "Pay sites"

You would be surprized, did you see that video of Miami coaches discussing recruits 40 times. Seriously they sounded really dumb for professionals.

 

[Irish Insanity]

To me, Michigan State have recruited mostly 3 stars yet have had players drafted in first round year after year. Trust your coaching staff knows more than these "Pay sites"

I trust theirs does. Ours, I'll wait till we have the same results.